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[abaris]

fchopin wrote...


A person who loves the game does not give it a 3.8 score, 3.8 signifies the game is rubbish and can not be fixed.

A flatout zero would imply the above.

I don't agree with 3.8 either, but that just says below average.

[AlanC9]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Dudeman315 wrote...

You're right it is now meant for us, those who preorder the collecters edition of ME2 and ME1, because of the injustice it does to the frantise as a whole. That's part of the problem, the conclusion of the trilogy is not meant for people who are familar with and love the series.  

That's just insulting.

I think "ignorant"  fits a little better. Sure, it's insulting too, but that's by accident.

[hwf]

It deserves much better then what the user average is.
I'd give it a point above whatever ME2 was, since it felt a notch better (if you exclude the hangover you get when you finish the game, that is).

If the Extended Cut DLC knocks the ball out of the park I could be persuaded to create an account at metacritic and bump up the user rating for ME3.

[packardbell]

I don't care about Metacritic.

[abaris]

I find it more interesting when comparing the rating to ME1 and 2. There hasn't been that discrepancy between professionals and users.

Both previous games average at 8.5 in user reviews. I think, long term users really got disappointed with ME3 and the new audience the producers wanted couldn't make up for that.

[Atakuma]

This is why I don't look at user reviews at all.

[Salaya]

No, Mass Effetc 3 does not deserve such low rating. It's a great game, but with some major flaws and incoherences. If you take that and the little details that make consumers feel a bit unconfortable, people enrage.

It's sad that a good game as Mass Effetc 3 have a 3.8 rating, but is also sad that EA make PC players to run the game from Origin. Is also sad that they developed day-one DLC, and that they marketed the game as a complete experience for SP when it's clearly impossible to archieve the best ending without playing it.

I hope this massive trolling with the ratings makes Bioware rethink some of their later strategies.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

fchopin wrote...
I don't see what 'series' has to do with it, if i give a game under a 6 then i stop playing the game and do not even bother to comment, just go for another game.

The problem is that ME3 isn't just a game, it's the end of a trilogy.
If you think the first two third of a film were good, wouldn't you try to watch the end of it even if it become more and more disappointing just to know the end of the story?

[Anjeel]

napushenko wrote...

cant fight the trolls. too many. run away. come back next time. bring flamethrower.

clarification : anyone who gives me3 less then 7 rating is troll, blind or has the brain size of a peanut. 

sorry but its true. 

Here are only a few reasons why I, a rabid fan of the game franchise (Have every piece of dlc from 1 and 2 aside from genesis because I would rather replay 1 completely, as well as having the collector's edition of both 2 and 3) give ME3 a 4-5 rating.

It has been mentioned more than anything else but it is really true... the ending.  This right here has killed the replayability which would immediately drop the game from a 10/10, even if the game was perfect, to an 8/10.  I have played ME1 about 15 times and ME2 about 8 times all the way through.  That also includes a full play through of both games right before ME3 came out so I could experience the whole story in one drawn out play through.  Kind of like watching a marathon of your favorite show over a few days or a week.  Because of the ending itself, I have only played through ME3 once.  The ending destroyed the entire story for me.  If you really want, I can expand on that some more, but for now, I will leave it at that.

So now we sit at an 7.5/10.


Then we add in the complete story meltdown of choosing Captain Anderson as the human member of the council you saved.  Wait.... why is Udina on the council in 3?  It's in a book apparently?  Well that's cool but when I am playing the game through, I expect the story to be in the game.  If I'm reading the books, then awesome, I expect the story to be there.  It would be kind of like watching Star Wars, but the movie not having the part where Darth Vader announces himself as Luke's father.  It's kind of important to the plot.  That would bring it down to an 6.5/10.

Now we get to see how PC the game has started to become.  The first time I went down to see Vega I get greeted with the "My husband died" from the shuttle pilot.  To me it was pretty much completely meaningless to the plot and to character development as nothing ever came of that conversation.  It wasn't too horrible so let's say that brings it to a 6/10.

Now let's move to the multiplayer.  I love the multiplayer.  I think it is ridiculously fun, however, the purchasing of gear and characters simply infuriates me.  I used to save up for Spetre boxes for a chance to get the Krogan.  Not so much luck there.  I got a character I already had, several of the same weapons which were useless for any character I played, and then the power ups.  I supposee I could just pay some real money to play the Spectre box lottery... That pisses me off.  I would much rather just work longer to go for a goal I am interested in.  Ooh or the "Premium Spectre Pack".  There is nothing more infuriating than pay 2 win.

That drops the game to a 5/10 for me.

[Yezdigerd]

fchopin wrote...
A person who loves the game does not give it a 3.8 score, 3.8 signifies the game is rubbish and can not be fixed.

Does it ? What if a game has feature that makes the game literally unplayable, say a bug that makes it crash every 30 sec?
What do you give such a game if all the rest is 10/10?

[fchopin]

Yezdigerd wrote...

fchopin wrote...
A person who loves the game does not give it a 3.8 score, 3.8 signifies the game is rubbish and can not be fixed.

Does it ? What if a game has feature that makes the game literally unplayable, say a bug that makes it crash every 30 sec?
What do you give such a game if all the rest is 10/10?

If a game has a bug that makes it unplayable then no person will give it a 10/10 because it will be impossible to complete the game.

[fchopin]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

fchopin wrote...
I don't see what 'series' has to do with it, if i give a game under a 6 then i stop playing the game and do not even bother to comment, just go for another game.

The problem is that ME3 isn't just a game, it's the end of a trilogy.
If you think the first two third of a film were good, wouldn't you try to watch the end of it even if it become more and more disappointing just to know the end of the story?

I understand that it's the last game in the trilogy but Bioware are making an EC dlc and they should be given the chance to do this before being judged like criminals.
 
I don't mind people criticising Bioware and their games as i do it all the time but people should show a little more respect.

[Matchy Pointy]

Who cares about metacritic anyway? THe user reviews are always full of people bombing the score, especially games like this (hell, I know it got lots and lots of reviewbombs jsut for the fact that Shepard can eb gay, and that was before all the ending hate).

[The Spamming Troll]

if someone gave me ME1 and ME2 said "hey finish this up for me, would you?" im pretty sure i could make a game that scored a 10. and i dont even know how to make games.

i think ME3 is better then ME2 but im not much of a fan of ME2 anyways. a low score to me is deserved, but not really a 3 or 4. id give it a solid 7.

[Gatt9]

fchopin wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

fchopin wrote...
A person who loves the game does not give it a 3.8 score, 3.8 signifies the game is rubbish and can not be fixed.

Does it ? What if a game has feature that makes the game literally unplayable, say a bug that makes it crash every 30 sec?
What do you give such a game if all the rest is 10/10?

If a game has a bug that makes it unplayable then no person will give it a 10/10 because it will be impossible to complete the game.

You should probably go take a look at the Skyrim reviews for the PS3,  it has just such a bug,  and not only did all of the reviewers praise it as if it were the pinnacle of gaming without mentioning it,  but so did more than a few reviewers.

Which is why I still hold that professional reviewers review advertisers,  and companies should be forced to disclose their affiliation when writing "User reviews".

Who cares about metacritic anyway? THe user reviews are always full of people bombing the score, especially games like this (hell, I know it got lots and lots of reviewbombs jsut for the fact that Shepard can eb gay, and that was before all the ending hate).

It's not a "bomb" if it's a what someone thinks of the game.  The only way it is a bomb is if it's bot-spammed,  which automatically gets removed.

ME3 deserves a low rating.  Most of the game is extremely weak,  and the narrative is worse.  I'd give it a 5 at best. 

[Bocks]

It deserves it.

The game is shallow, abandoned the entire theme of Mass Effect and forgot what it was supposed to be.

[M920CAIN]

napushenko wrote...

war asset collecting beats driving that mako & resource pingling every day

Speak for yourself. Oh, yes, you already are .

[wildannie]

I wouldn't bother to review ME3 on metacritic but If I was to rate ME3 on how much I enjoyed it, I'd give it a big fat zero. From the start my shepard was unrecognisable, autodialogue was awful, as was the Journal, the treatment of my previous choices was also abyssmal. I've spent 100s of hours playing ME1 & 2 and loved every minute. I guess that 3.8 ratings are a reflection on players overall enjoyment which I think is perfectly valid, for whatever reason they did not enjoy the game and reviewing it as if they had would be misleading.

[jimbo32]

I gave it a 4 on Metacritic, and I think I backed up my score with my feelings about the game. I didn't have any sort of agenda, it was just my honest opinion.

For me, the ending ruined the replay value of not just ME3 itself, but the entire series. Not only was it nonsensical, but it also forced Shepard to act out of character and left me feeling as if I'd failed no matter what choice I made. No matter how fantastic the rest of the game is, that takes it down to an automatic 6/10 in my opinion.

But ME3 is far from perfect - even ignoring the ending.
- Waaaay too much auto-dialogue
- Import problems which still haven't been fixed despite BioWare's claims about patch 1.02 (Shep's face, LotSB choices).
- SP results depending on MP participation
- Intrusive DRM through Origin
- Appalling treatment of some established characters and LI's
- Useless War Assets
- The final "Priority: Earth" mission is probably the worst mission in the entire series, when it had *tons* of potential and could've blown us away.
- poorly done, boring fetch-and-carry sidequests
- N7 assignments were very homogeneous (repurposed MP maps) , and there were far too few of them compared to ME2.
- Day one paid DLC
- A fair number of bugs and glitches, most of which will probably go unaddressed (Ken and Gabby interaction in Engineering, getting stuck on the bridge next to Joker, the ladder on Eden Prime, aimed powers not working properly for some players, lots of MP issues).
- Shepard and squad ignoring equipped weapons and constantly using the Avenger and Predator in cutscenes.
- Awful journal. AWFUL.
- Low-res textures and poor lighting

Anyway, I think you get the idea. I felt perfectly justified in giving it a 4/10. For me, that's what it deserves.

The OP's idea that a review should somehow be completely objective is, frankly, ridiculous. Reviews for anything are by definition entirely *subjective* and depend quite a bit on the experience and likes/dislikes of the reviewer. Some people might be able to largely ignore some of the issues that I posted above, and that's fine. It doesn't mean that my opinion has no merit - it just means that our opinions are different.

Saying that people who disagree with you have "brains the size of a peanut" is what's called ad hominem - an attempt to dismiss a dissenting argument by denigrating the person behind it. Rather than getting childish, maybe you should instead try to address the actual issues that people have with the game.

[swn32]

I felt like i wasted my time playing me3. It also made me feel like i wasted all the countless hours playing the previous 2 games. So 3.8 is fine by me.

Modifié par swn32, 12 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[Merwanor]

How can I justfully give a score to a game that was pretty amazing when I played it the first time, and easily a 9/10 until the ending came. But completly destroyed the replayability of the whole series. Because of my conflicting views on this game I can't give it a score. At one point, I truly love this game, but also I hate it because it ruined the whole replayability of the series for me.

Is the metacritic score justified, no... A game has to be very bad to varrant anything below 4/10. But I think that people grant it such a bad score because review scales are wrongly judged these days. If a game gets below 8/10 it is seen as a failure, but to be honest if a game gets a 10/10 score it should be perfect, 100% and that is not possible in a industry like this.

[frostajulie]

I give it 2 stars so metacritic rates it pretty high IMO.

The journal system is clunky and disorganized completely useless.

Eavesdropping and fetch quests have completely replaced meaningful interaction with the NPC's in the universe and is a total downgrade of a big part of why ME is so appealing.

I can't get the optimal ending without using Gibbeds editor.

Characters I liked were killed on twitter and I had to find out about it on the internet and not in my game.

Femshep has these horrible platypus like ducklips that do not match what I got on my Femshep shirt and I cannot alter her face to correct this.

The ending turns all my shepards into dullards and war criminals and completely negates the meaning and effort I put into the entire franchise.

Many of the promises made about this game which have been itemized in several threads were false and in fact completely opposite of what we got.

There is no way to win this game. There are only varying degrees of failure in 3 different colors. War assets are reduced to little more than a line on a bar graph ME2 characters got shafted.

The ending is ripped from another game, violates the lore, comes out of nowhere and makes no sense.

So as I said Metacritic scored the game far too high.

[paul165]

@jimbo32^^This oh so much this I don't bother with Meta but I r/v'd on Amazon and gave it 2/5(entertainly getting most helpful r/v in the process I feel all special now:wub:). That said for me the ending is less of an issue but forcing MP to get all endings in an SP game is more of an issue along with the stupid scanning minigame so it balances out.

I probably would have been less bitter and twisted about it had they made an honest effort to fix the problems with the game rather than endless multiplayer promotions and selling shoes. As it is as a purely SP AAA title ME3 is mediocre and as the end of a trilogy it's a disaster as many people have pointed out removing all desire to play any of the three games again. It's worth pointing out that in the 2 months I've had the game I did one full playthrough and I have another playthrough that I started when the EC was annouced that I still haven't finished in over a month...

Got to Thessia and just couldn't face it anymore.

Games that generate those kind of reactions and indeed put people off other future games produced by the same company deserve a 3.8 on metacritic.

[FlamingBoy]

sdm83 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

probably would have given it a 7

as for the metacritic, not sure what to think, i guess its better than misleading people with constant perfect 10's, also metacritic has sort of become a form of protest

How is misleading people with really low scores any better?

averages it out, people look at the review scores, then at the user scores and relize there is a problem, do  a little of research and make a valid opinion

[legion999]

I thought Metacritic was useless for reviews before ME3. Now... I still think it's useless. Even more so with the perfect reviews ME3 has been given.

Anyway I would give ME3 a 7.5/8 when not including the ending

Modifié par legion999, 13 mai 2012 - 12:15 .