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[CNevarezN]

Two words....








                                                                                    Chuck Norris

Modifié par CNevarezN, 12 mai 2012 - 02:24 .

[BERT AND ERNY]

Terraflare wrote...

BERT AND ERNY wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

N7 of less than 200 unless they have a cool name or -200% weight = insta kick sorry buddy but I am not gonna carry you through a match!

If you're that worried about having players that aren't great on your team i'd hazard I guess that you just wouldn't be able to carry anyone through a match anyway.

N7 of 150 here btw, promoted once for the achievement and never again. Still wondering how long it'll take people to realise that judging people based on a number that can quite easily stagnate for a long time at a rating as low as 20 is just retarded.

true. n7 is meaningless. time played or chars promoted does not = skill.

A high grade, top class honours and a full resume do not = ability. But an employer will always hire a person that has ticked the checkboxes over one that has not. Why are you expecting the benefit of the doubt? I can replace you instantly by kicking you, and chances are that I will get someone with a more efficient build than yours who signals to me that they are not a deadweight. 

Read my point : YOU might know you are a good player and can handle yourself as vanguard with a low level weapon. I DONT know, and CANNOT know that. Wasting 10 minutes wiping is a cost to me. I am not willing to incur that cost. Kicking you takes very little time and I am certain I can find someone who is more likely to not be a failure.

if YOU dont wanna run with said player because of loadout that is YOUR prerogative. just say something first and it could be resolved nicely. as stated before if action is not taken bya all means, kick.

[Felhand]

People like my elitist approach.

stay the **** out of my way and enjoy your free credits. If I have to drag some muppets through gold kicking and screaming to get my weekend event credit I will. (And did , at like 1am last night -.^)

[marshalleck]

I just logged into the game and started kick votes against three random players in three different lobbies, just to punish OP for creating this thread.

[DayusMakhina]

Terraflare wrote...

BERT AND ERNY wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

N7 of less than 200 unless they have a cool name or -200% weight = insta kick sorry buddy but I am not gonna carry you through a match!

If you're that worried about having players that aren't great on your team i'd hazard I guess that you just wouldn't be able to carry anyone through a match anyway.

N7 of 150 here btw, promoted once for the achievement and never again. Still wondering how long it'll take people to realise that judging people based on a number that can quite easily stagnate for a long time at a rating as low as 20 is just retarded.

true. n7 is meaningless. time played or chars promoted does not = skill.

A high grade, top class honours and a full resume do not = ability. But an employer will always hire a person that has ticked the checkboxes over one that has not. Why are you expecting the benefit of the doubt? I can replace you instantly by kicking you, and chances are that I will get someone with a more efficient build than yours who signals to me that they are not a deadweight. 

Read my point : YOU might know you are a good player and can handle yourself as vanguard with a low level weapon. I DONT know, and CANNOT know that. Wasting 10 minutes wiping is a cost to me. I am not willing to incur that cost. Kicking you takes very little time and I am certain I can find someone who is more likely to not be a failure.

It seems quite fitting that your analogy is based around employment, as that's essentially how you make the game sound. "Wasting" 10 minutes wiping is of no cost to you whatsoever other than a loss of ingame credits.

It's irrelevant whether you know if the lower levelled person is good or not, as simply by kicking them you are showing that you do not want a challenge. If you don't want a challenge and don't want to test yourself then why are you even playing the game? Just to amass credits?

[BERT AND ERNY]

marshalleck wrote...

I just logged into the game and started kick votes against three random players in three different lobbies, just to punish OP for creating this thread.

how remarkbly mature

[Daidarus]

BERT AND ERNY wrote...

Terraflare wrote...

BERT AND ERNY wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

N7 of less than 200 unless they have a cool name or -200% weight = insta kick sorry buddy but I am not gonna carry you through a match!

If you're that worried about having players that aren't great on your team i'd hazard I guess that you just wouldn't be able to carry anyone through a match anyway.

N7 of 150 here btw, promoted once for the achievement and never again. Still wondering how long it'll take people to realise that judging people based on a number that can quite easily stagnate for a long time at a rating as low as 20 is just retarded.

true. n7 is meaningless. time played or chars promoted does not = skill.

A high grade, top class honours and a full resume do not = ability. But an employer will always hire a person that has ticked the checkboxes over one that has not. Why are you expecting the benefit of the doubt? I can replace you instantly by kicking you, and chances are that I will get someone with a more efficient build than yours who signals to me that they are not a deadweight. 

Read my point : YOU might know you are a good player and can handle yourself as vanguard with a low level weapon. I DONT know, and CANNOT know that. Wasting 10 minutes wiping is a cost to me. I am not willing to incur that cost. Kicking you takes very little time and I am certain I can find someone who is more likely to not be a failure.

if YOU dont wanna run with said player because of loadout that is YOUR prerogative. just say something first and it could be resolved nicely. as stated before if action is not taken bya all means, kick.

Most of the time I'd just rather kick the person than wait and find out that they either have no mic, don't speak my language, or are unwilling to change. (I find most people who use bad loadouts are.) I'd rather save myself the time and then reply to their grammatically incorrect responses on the forums that just make me feel more justified in my choice. Just my opinion anyways.

[Trae ThaThruth]

Lol no worse then someone saying using a SE vs reapers on gold was useless.

Yet I turned around after I left thier retarded lobby and full ext. In the next lobby I joined still gold.

[Terraflare]

DayusMakhina wrote...

It seems quite fitting that your analogy is based around employment, as that's essentially how you make the game sound. "Wasting" 10 minutes wiping is of no cost to you whatsoever other than a loss of ingame credits.

It's irrelevant whether you know if the lower levelled person is good or not, as simply by kicking them you are showing that you do not want a challenge. If you don't want a challenge and don't want to test yourself then why are you even playing the game? Just to amass credits?

1) How so? I dont like losing. I dont like wiping. I like to win. Maybe I only have 30 minutes a day after work to enjoy myself. Having to carry a scrub and/or wiping is not enjoyable. Maybe YOU find enjoyment in losing, sure. Maybe YOU like to struggle for 50 minutes and still utterly fail. Good for you, others wont, why should you expect the host of the game to like losing?

2) So you acknowledge that you, by being bad, or bringing a 'bad' loadout into a game, makes the game more challenging for everyone. Again, do you think about the other 3 players when you do this? The analogy to this argument is like stating "Barcelona should just run with 8 players instead of 11, because they really should enjoy the challenge of playing handicapped instead of using their cookie cutter setup and winning all the time."

If you have fun creating artificial challenges for yourself, sure, be my guest. Go host a solo game and run with a level 1 vanguard using just a predator. I'd never stop you from doing that even if I could. Just dont try doing that in a public gold lobby and then coming here to whine after you realise no one wants to carry you, or run the risk of having to carry you.

Modifié par Terraflare, 12 mai 2012 - 02:47 .

[Ean_Txelan]

 Got N7 163, playing as GE on gold with GS and GSMG. Im not the best player but I would say im a good support guy. I've never been kicked because of my N7 rank. So maybe the reason to why I haven't been kicked can be my cool gamer tag, CA_WOLF....

<_<

[PSUHammer]

I just had a 1000+ N7 join my gold Reaper Benning map with a level 13 SE and a Talon I. We asked him to change to a stronger character and he ignored us. Thought of kicking him but thought we would give it a go. He sucked. He kept overloading my BE warps on Brutes and Banshees and kept getting killed. I told him to stop using overload on armored enemies (or at least stop following me). He ignored us.

We kicked him after getting creamed at wave 5. He was last with about 5000 points. Moral of story? Insta-kick people who you have a bad feeling about...they can go create their own room.

EDIT:  meant engineer, not SI.

Modifié par Hammer6767, 12 mai 2012 - 03:28 .

[Balbaroy]

N7 Level 118. I don't get kicked because I'm not retarded. Why am I going to use a character that is terrible for gold? Especially since I don't have the weapon setups I'd like. But what's the easiest way to get weapons? Get 70k/clear on Gold.

So, instead of intentionally handicapping my team by using a sub-par weapon/character combo, I use my AA, my GE, or my TS (depending on which enemy I'm facing) and do fine. The only time I got a kick vote on me was when I was in the midst of switching characters. I was leveling my TS in Silver and felt like playing Gold so I joined the lobby as a level 10 TS and had to switch. I mean wiping isn't a big deal, but I just enjoy victory so much better.

[astheoceansblue]

Hammer6767 wrote...

I just had a 1000+ N7 join my gold Reaper Benning map with a level 13 SI and a Talon I. We asked him to change to a stronger character and he ignored us. Thought of kicking him but thought we would give it a go. He sucked. He kept overloading my BE warps on Brutes and Banshees and kept getting killed. I told him to stop using overload on armored enemies (or at least stop following me). He ignored us.

We kicked him after getting creamed at wave 5. He was last with about 5000 points. Moral of story? Insta-kick people who you have a bad feeling about...they can go create their own room.

You mean SE, right?

SI don't got overload.

[A Wild Snorlax]

I don't want to carry noobs with stupid or crap loadouts so I will kick.

Deal with it, or play bronze/silver.

[DayusMakhina]

Terraflare wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

It seems quite fitting that your analogy is based around employment, as that's essentially how you make the game sound. "Wasting" 10 minutes wiping is of no cost to you whatsoever other than a loss of ingame credits.

It's irrelevant whether you know if the lower levelled person is good or not, as simply by kicking them you are showing that you do not want a challenge. If you don't want a challenge and don't want to test yourself then why are you even playing the game? Just to amass credits?

1) How so? I dont like losing. I dont like wiping. I like to win. Maybe I only have 30 minutes a day after work to enjoy myself. Having to carry a scrub and/or wiping is not enjoyable. Maybe YOU find enjoyment in losing, sure. Maybe YOU like to struggle for 50 minutes and still utterly fail. Good for you, others wont, why should you expect the host of the game to like losing?

2) So you acknowledge that you, by being bad, or bringing a 'bad' loadout into a game, makes the game more challenging for everyone. Again, do you think about the other 3 players when you do this? The analogy to this argument is like stating "Barcelona should just run with 8 players instead of 11, because they really should enjoy the challenge of playing handicapped instead of using their cookie cutter setup and winning all the time."

If you have fun creating artificial challenges for yourself, sure, be my guest. Go host a solo game and run with a level 1 vanguard using just a predator. I'd never stop you from doing that even if I could. 

1) Losing? Who said anything about losing? I like to win, I like to push myself to win and have faith in my ability to do so. I just quite simply don't feel the need to surround myself with only higher levelled players with all the top equipment in order to be successful. Maybe if you're just not that good then I could understand needing a team full of 'pros' with you in order for you to succeed. If that's the case, then just don't ever state you don't want to carry people. Just be honest that you can't.

2) I'm bad now? Why is that? Because i'm only N7 level 150? I top almost all of the rooms I play, only really play pugs and it's not often that I do not make it to extraction. In the times I don't it's because my team hasn't been very good and I wasn't up to the challenge of carrying them through it.

I acknowledge that bad players make the game harder, but considering it's so easy (and thus not fun) in a room full of "pros" I don't see that as a bad thing.

But if you wan't to go down the thinking about other players road... do you think about other players when you so quickly kick them from your lobbies just because they don't match up to your 'standards'? You say you may only have 30 minutes and don't want to wipe out because it's not fun, but what about the fun for the person repeatedly being kicked from lobbies by snobby people like yourself? What of his/her fun, or is it just you that matters?

Your analogy is flawed by way, Barcelona have a reason to always select their best team (although, strangely enough most football clubs rotate players anyway) because being successful as a football team equals monetary gain in the real world. There is no gain from a video game, it's just about enjoyment. If you only get enjoyment from playing alongside high levels to the extent where it's harder to lose than it is to win then fair enough, I guess.

[Fins_T]

BERT AND ERNY wrote...
... regardless of what person x wants to run with thats his/her call. ...

Oh, really? So team would not have much lesser chance to win the match if you'd be using arc pistol I vs gold reapers with no mods and no equipment?

Your attitude already made me wishing to kick you, pal. Fortunately (for you), there is no kick button in here forums!  Try to say what i quoted in-game in voice chat, and see for yourself: i bet most people will just push "kick" on ya.

My advice: improve yourself. If/when you are good enough, - know the game, have them weaps, and is not doing any too strange/wrong setups, - nobody would ever kick ya. Especially if you'd use some requipment, you know.

Good luck!

Modifié par Fins_T, 12 mai 2012 - 03:23 .

[mrwizeguy]

Tolerance IS a dirty word in my house!

This weekend is turnig to hell for regular gold player
the worce part is if u get 2 noobz joining one will not kick the other wasting time

i say official petition , beef up host powers for insta kicks on his own!! hahaha

And i DO mean it lol

[vinak]

I got kicked once...I proceeded to solo the same thing I was in just for the heck of it.

moral of the story: Don't kick me. I am better than the rest of you combined.

[PSUHammer]

astheoceansblue wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

I just had a 1000+ N7 join my gold Reaper Benning map with a level 13 SI and a Talon I. We asked him to change to a stronger character and he ignored us. Thought of kicking him but thought we would give it a go. He sucked. He kept overloading my BE warps on Brutes and Banshees and kept getting killed. I told him to stop using overload on armored enemies (or at least stop following me). He ignored us.

We kicked him after getting creamed at wave 5. He was last with about 5000 points. Moral of story? Insta-kick people who you have a bad feeling about...they can go create their own room.

You mean SE, right?

SI don't got overload.

Yup...wrong letter.

[ryoldschool]

Yikes, OP was pissed, so let him vent. I play silver all the time with randoms. If we get a really good team we will sometimes kick it up to gold. That way you know you are with a decent squad so you don't have to worry about kicking people.

[uzivatel]

astheoceansblue wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

You mean SE, right?

SI don't got overload.

Both Salarians use Energy Drain.
Anyway biotic users on Gold should be able to realize that the first throw actually detonates Tech Burst and do another Throw to detonate Biotic Explosion. It may be annoying at times, but its not runing anything, its slowing down at worst.
I have seen too many people brainlessly doing the Warp > Throw combo even on Gold - I detonate their Warp using Reave and I would expect them to use another Warp to set up another explosion, but instead they do the Throw.

Modifié par uzivatel, 12 mai 2012 - 03:29 .

[PSUHammer]

uzivatel wrote...

astheoceansblue wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

You mean SE, right?

SI don't got overload.

Both Salarians use Energy Drain.
Anyway biotic users on Gold should be able to realize that the first throw actually detonates Tech Burst and do another Throw to detonate Biotic Explosion. It may be annoying at times, but its not runing anything, its slowing down at worst.
I have seen too many people brainlessly doing the Warp > Throw combo even on Gold - I detonate their Warp using Reave and I would expect them to use another Warp to set up another explosion and instead they do the Throw...

Well, I am fine with that, but if two Brutes are charging and you see me throw a Warp and then just hit overload, you are asking to get wiped.

[astheoceansblue]

uzivatel wrote...

astheoceansblue wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

You mean SE, right?

SI don't got overload.

Both Salarians use Energy Drain.
Anyway biotic users on Gold should be able to realize that the first throw actually detonates Tech Burst and do another Throw to detonate Biotic Explosion. It may be annoying at times, but its not runing anything, its slowing down at worst.
I have seen too many people brainlessly doing the Warp > Throw combo even on Gold - I detonate their Warp using Reave and I would expect them to use another Warp to set up another explosion, but instead they do the Throw.

Yeh, I meant ED. Not SE.

Brain fart.

[mrwizeguy]

vinak wrote...

I got kicked once...I proceeded to solo the same thing I was in just for the heck of it.

moral of the story: Don't kick me. I am better than the rest of you combined.

moral of the story is get of your cloud noob

[Fins_T]

uzivatel wrote...

I have seen too many people brainlessly doing the Warp > Throw combo even on Gold - I detonate their Warp using Reave and I would expect them to use another Warp to set up another explosion, but instead they do the Throw.

Take it easy though. Quite often, in the heat of battle, these "brainless" people are simply not sure which target was detonated - and throw is very short cooldown and deals some damage, as well as stagger things (even some big things, like brutes). Other times, there are 3 or 4 biotic users, and "brainless" people just can't be sure if there is a warp on the target already-again, or not - so they throw just in case. And tech bursts you mentioned - could be a reason too. And last but not least, there is a rhytm some good adepts/sentinels developed; like, warp-shoot-shoot-throw-shoot, rinse repeat. They are just much used to it, you know. Can't blame them, the loss in killing speed - if any, - is not big anyways.