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[Chibiabos]

This has been posted a bit, just thought I'd repost it fresh for some others.  So far as I know, the only way to get funds to buy the 'good' things in the game (the ones priced 100+ sovereigns!) is crafting Potent Lyrium potions.  It feels so hackneyed. Anyway, here's what you need (basically) to start --

You will need Master Herbalism.

You'll need, I think its 11 sovereigns and change to buy the Potent Lyrium Poultice recipe from the Wonders of Thedas shop.  That's the most expensive item, fortunately you only need that once.

Then you need flasks, concentrator agents and distillation agents which can each be bought in unlimited quantities at the Gnawed Noble tavern, and huge amounts of Lyrium Dust which you can buy in unlimited quantities in at the Magi tower from the Quartermaster (you do NOT need to do the Magi tower quest first!).

Note the ratio of ingredients ... I think its 4 Lyrium Dust, 2 Concentrator Agents, 2 Distillation Agents and 1 Flask.  Everything except the Lyrium Dust you can buy cheaply at Gnawed Noble ... you /can/ buy the flasks cheaper in Dust Town in Orzamar, but its not worth the extra trip to a third site for me, and flasks are a minor component (only one is needed per poultice, compared with two of each of the agents and four of the Lyrium Dust) and most of the cost is in the concentrator and distillation agents, not the flasks.  Up to you though.

Anyway, keep that in mind ... equalize how many concentrator and distillation agents you have.  Lyrium Dust will wear down twice as fast as the agents and four times as fast as the flasks.

I feel it important to note that it will quickly become a bit of a chore, so I think its best to just do it all at one go ... your money grows exponentially, so if you just do it a little, then go off and buy stuff, then come back to do it again cuz you are low on dough, you'll have to start over since you won't have the funds to buy as many of the ingredients ... it is faster to just keep going until you have enough money to buy all of Ferelden, really ... 1,000 sovereigns has lasted me so far.  It took me a few hours to get there, though ... and having to click on Make Poultice a thousand times gets really tiresome, heh.

A lot of other RPGs have seriously easy exploits to make money, so far as I know, aside from exploiting some bugs or something, this is the only way to make unlimited money legitimately.  I just don't see how those 100+ sovereign equipment could be bought without doing this.  The best 'quest' payout I know of is the lyrium drug-runner deal which can get you 80ish sovereigns ... that can help you get one of the 100-sovereign equipment, but to really afford stuff you need much more.

You can buy every tome to buff your char (and/or party) and really deck yourself out with armor then.  I don't even bother looting most corpses unless they have good armor or weapons ... my stock of lyrium and health poultices for my own use is solid with 99 each of the regular and greater varieties (don't even bother with keeping minor poultices anymore, just eats an inventory slot).

Has anyone else found other ways that aren't so choresome to make serious sovereigns?

[fozfoster]

So I make the Greater Lyrium Potion and sell them all? You didn't explain what to do once you've made a gagillion potions. Good exploit though.

[Tonya777]

Duplication is the easiest money in the game

[Chibiabos]

No, -NOT- Greater -- POTENT (the most powerful). POTENT Lyrium potion is the ONLY potion in which you can sell it for more than the sum of the ingredients. All the other poultices (including Potent Health) sell for less than it cost you to buy the ingredients ... in other words you will lose money if you buy ingredients to make any other potion and sell it. Potent Lyrium, SFAIK, is the only money maker.



Tonya ... is that one of the console exploits or something? I'm on a PC and avoiding using any exploits.

[Lancer347]

...  I don't even bother looting most corpses unless they have good armor or weapons ... 

It may not seem like much, but you make alot of cash from selling all the weapons and armor you find, esp when you start to pick up tier 5-7 items, some tier 7 standard items will sell for around 5 gold, and you'll come out of a dungeon crawl with a couple dozen. Also, always ask for a reward when you do a quest, these little things add up.

On my first playthrough I was running a little tight on money, but  still bought 2 of the 100+gold items. Playing through a second time with a rogue and looting/lockpicking/stealing everything I could...I had around 250 gold at the end of the game after having bought the 'epics'.

This potion method is alot faster though, esp when you want to get something expensive early on. Nice post

[Tonya777]

I would assume you could duplicate on PC too , I'm not sure



But anyway a PC can type in command prompts to get anything they want on demand

[Naxarrath]

Chibiabos wrote...

Has anyone else found other ways that aren't so choresome to make serious sovereigns?

Money doubing or just console command.

1. It saves whole lot of your time that you could use to play the game instead, making potent potion for profit felt way too much like doing work in the video game, whats wrong with that picture?

2. The effect is the same, you will have enough money to buy everything to make you and your companions effective maybe you feel better that you didint cheat like selling that roses thorn to a vendor and buy it back glitch.

3. Did i mentioned time?

[Jonfon_ire]

If you're a Dwarf Noble doesn't a certain former companion in Denerim Market Place buy things off you for twice the normal price?

Modifié par Jonfon_ire, 09 décembre 2009 - 09:05 .

[Chibiabos]

Err, sorry, guess I didn't make myself clear.



Buy as many ingredients in proportion as you can, but remember to buy them in proportion ... it won't help to spend every last copper coin on Concentrators if you have no Lyrium Dust, Distillation agents or flasks. Generally I mostly just buy an abudance of Lyrium Dust from the Magi Tower Quartermaster (you'll go through Lyrium Dust the fastest), a good amount of flasks (you'll go through them the last fast), and then get equal amounts of concentrators and distillation agents ... buy the concentrators first since they are more expensive (30+ish silver, I think, compared with 9 silver for Distillation agents)



When you buy all you can in the proper proportion to the ingredients for the recipe, make all the Potent poultices you can, sell them (they sell for 1 sovereign and 25 silvers each!), invest that money back into buying more ingredients, make every last potion you can, rinse, lather, repeat!



Again its best to keep going ... don't say "Well, I just want that 22 sovereign tome, so I'll just go for 23 sovereigns to buy it, I'll make more later to buy more" because that will take very long. Its all about exponential growth, baby! Basically it takes longer to get from 1 to 10 sovereigns (only a span of 9 sovereigns!) than it does from, say, 50 to 100 sovereigns (a span of 50 sovereigns!).



This means if you get to 30 sovereigns, then pause from making poultices to buy that 22-sovereign tome leaving you with 8, then go back to try and make more sovereigns, you are basically starting over whereas if you kept going, you could have gotten to 1,000 sovereigns much more quickly. It takes less time to do it all in one shot than to do it to a point, spend what you have, then return to it ... because you need to keep re-investing to make enough to buy all the good stuff. I think the tomes alone, someone correct me, come close to 100 sovereigns or maybe even more, there are 2x22-sovereign tomes at Wonders of Thedas, I think a few more scattered about, a few that cost 18 ... probably at least 100 sovereigns just for those, and for me those are a priority.

[Chibiabos]

Jonfon_ire wrote...

If you're a Dwarf Noble doesn't a certain former companion in Denerim Market Place buy things off you for twice the normal price?

Dunno, I'm kinda stuck on playing the Alienage Dwarf origin.   I keep telling myself, next game, next game I'll try a different origin, heh.

[Chibiabos]

Even though she was an ass and didn't deserve it, I loved letting Alister give his sister 15 sovereigns and telling him not to worry about it ... what's 15 sovereigns when I had 1,000? heh!

[Naxarrath]

You made yourself perfectly clear, we all know the more money you get the more incrediens you can buy and make even more, again it's a damn job you are doing in the video game, and you are losing effective gaming time repeating that over and over again.

[AKOdin]

Hmm... I didn't see any flasks for sale in Oz @ the Dustown vendor. Is there more than one Dustown vendor?

[Denlath Vestor]

Tonya777 wrote...

I would assume you could duplicate on PC too , I'm not sure

But anyway a PC can type in command prompts to get anything they want on demand

If there's a console command for lyrium, elfroot and their pots, please tell me! I've been searching and asking as far as I can tell no such codes exist.

[Hizoka003]

Denlath Vestor wrote...

Tonya777 wrote...

I would assume you could duplicate on PC too , I'm not sure

But anyway a PC can type in command prompts to get anything they want on demand

If there's a console command for lyrium, elfroot and their pots, please tell me! I've been searching and asking as far as I can tell no such codes exist.

there is a command for money though

[Darth_Shizz]

How much do the reagents cost in all then? Buying from a mixture of bodhan + mage tower costs something like 5-6 silver more than each poultice sells for. How much is the profit when you go to the gnawed noble? And is this after completing the quest for it?

[Bullets McDeath]

Naxarrath wrote...

Chibiabos wrote...

Has anyone else found other ways that aren't so choresome to make serious sovereigns?

Money doubing or just console command.

1. It saves whole lot of your time that you could use to play the game instead, making potent potion for profit felt way too much like doing work in the video game, whats wrong with that picture?

2. The effect is the same, you will have enough money to buy everything to make you and your companions effective maybe you feel better that you didint cheat like selling that roses thorn to a vendor and buy it back glitch.

3. Did i mentioned time?

Ah, yes. Cheating... the best way to not feel like you're... cheating... wait, what?

If he'd rather craft in game items and sell them, I don't see where the problem lies... or how on earth you can call what he does cheating and think using the console isn't just as "bad" or worse.

[Darth_Shizz]

outlaworacle wrote...

Naxarrath wrote...

Chibiabos wrote...

Has anyone else found other ways that aren't so choresome to make serious sovereigns?

Money doubing or just console command.

1. It saves whole lot of your time that you could use to play the game instead, making potent potion for profit felt way too much like doing work in the video game, whats wrong with that picture?

2. The effect is the same, you will have enough money to buy everything to make you and your companions effective maybe you feel better that you didint cheat like selling that roses thorn to a vendor and buy it back glitch.

3. Did i mentioned time?

Ah, yes. Cheating... the best way to not feel like you're... cheating... wait, what?

If he'd rather craft in game items and sell them, I don't see where the problem lies... or how on earth you can call what he does cheating and think using the console isn't just as "bad" or worse.

Have to agree with this. There's a clear difference between the two methods, as one actually involves a modicum of work (or, a bit more by the sounds of it ;p) whilst it's also not really able to be considered an exploit...at least not any more than buying unlimited amounts of ingredients at certain vendors can be, which I believe was designed intentionally. 

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 09 décembre 2009 - 06:00 .

[tranj84cl]

outlaworacle wrote...

Naxarrath wrote...

Chibiabos wrote...

Has anyone else found other ways that aren't so choresome to make serious sovereigns?

Money doubing or just console command.

1. It saves whole lot of your time that you could use to play the game instead, making potent potion for profit felt way too much like doing work in the video game, whats wrong with that picture?

2. The effect is the same, you will have enough money to buy everything to make you and your companions effective maybe you feel better that you didint cheat like selling that roses thorn to a vendor and buy it back glitch.

3. Did i mentioned time?

Ah, yes. Cheating... the best way to not feel like you're... cheating... wait, what?

If he'd rather craft in game items and sell them, I don't see where the problem lies... or how on earth you can call what he does cheating and think using the console isn't just as "bad" or worse.

Cheating IS supposed to save you time.  Console commands are cheats.  I don't see crafting in-game items and selling them as cheating.  If that were the case, then using 3 mages would be cheating. 

Also, the vendor in Orzammar that is the guy whose store you save from the Thugs.  It's 10 coppers cheaper.  Not much unless you're making tens of thousands of potions.

If you are a Dwarf Noble, you can turn a profit on Greater Lyrium potions.

[Relshar]

Or just open up the console and type in the more gold command. ?

You can find some console commands here.

uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/dragonage/hints.html

hope this helps.

Modifié par Relshar, 09 décembre 2009 - 06:17 .

[AKOdin]

Ah... but doesn't that vendor flee after you kill the thugs? I always thought that there was no reason NOT to kill the thugs, as the vendor was nothing special and you didn't get XP for talking them down or anything.

[DeathTyrant]

Something that I do is changing my inventory size to 999. I do see as also a cheat, but a mild one IMO. I want to be able to carry all the loot away from a dungeon, something which took me a couple of trips in the Elven Ruins.

Crafting stuff legitimately is of course a nice way to get money and still retain that warm happy feeling of not cheating.

[tranj84cl]

AKOdin wrote...

Ah... but doesn't that vendor flee after you kill the thugs? I always thought that there was no reason NOT to kill the thugs, as the vendor was nothing special and you didn't get XP for talking them down or anything.

Yeah, if you talk them down he stays.  Only reason is to save 10 coppers per flask.  Not worth the trip really, but it's there if you want.

[Relshar]

uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/dragonage/hints.html

Console commands can be found here. Hope this helps.

[lv12medic]

I thought you could only grow sovereigns by planting them in the ground and grow a sovereign tree.