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The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. And if you pick control you lose! That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true it is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   

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No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.

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is it a renegade option though?

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Kaelef wrote...

No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.

If you need to look into the file names (ie dream_foliage) to understand the plot it is a bit sad.....

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How is that a problem with the indoctrination theory? That would be more of a problem with the game even though you can't really think of those decisions as an actual paragon or renegade decision

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KingZayd wrote...

is it a renegade option though?

And if you pick it you lose!

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7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

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brb, fight TIM the entire game....end up siding with him just to say you're a renegade.


Talking about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.

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Kaelef wrote...

No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.


Did you know that 315% of all statistics are made up Image IPB

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7he Island Head wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.

If you need to look into the file names (ie dream_foliage) to understand the plot it is a bit sad.....

So that's how you're supposed to figure it out!
Those silly people who look at things like the actual in-game dreams and ME lore to understand the I.T. tsk tsk.

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7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.


Did you know that 315% of all statistics are made up Image IPB


I heard that was 631% likely.

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Do you understand that the options are presented in the reapers morality?

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Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.

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7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.


I would need a link to this official IT theory and where you got this quote from

The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best



Can't say I care  either way, but I will have an argument with whoever made it.

Modifié par Iwillbeback, 12 mai 2012 - 09:09 .


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7he Island Head wrote...

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.

So Shepard can only be either or? no Paragade play in your book?

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Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.


I would need a link to this official IT theory and where you got this quote from

The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best



Can't say I care  either way, but I will have an argument with whoever made it.


http://www.youtube.c...FFhBn2U#t=3684s
Here is a link, it is only  talked about for a few moments

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Since the control and synthesis are not presented as a renegade options but destroy clearly is, then this is more likely an unfair treatment of paragon players who just followed the colors and the outcome in regard of geth and Edi. Destroy means in face value to kill your allies to get revenge and save yourself! That's pretty renegade Id' say.

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Kaelef wrote...

No, the biggest problem with IT is that it's 215% speculation.


Yep. It's a cluster of hypotheses that have yet to be definitely proven.

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7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.


I would need a link to this official IT theory and where you got this quote from

The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best



Can't say I care  either way, but I will have an argument with whoever made it.


http://www.youtube.c...FFhBn2U#t=3684s
Here is a link, it is only  talked about for a few moments


That is merely a documentary.
Ignoring the colors as they don't matter.
What matters is what you do.

I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.



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7he Island Head

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Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
   



Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.


I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.


I would need a link to this official IT theory and where you got this quote from

The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best



Can't say I care  either way, but I will have an argument with whoever made it.


http://www.youtube.c...FFhBn2U#t=3684s
Here is a link, it is only  talked about for a few moments


That is merely a documentary.
Ignoring the colors as they don't matter.
What matters is what you do.

I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

Then why did bioware color code the options? 

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 12 mai 2012 - 09:32 .


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I picked Destroy and I couldn't careless. It's still better then Mass Molestation.

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UrgentArchengel wrote...

I picked Destroy and I couldn't careless. It's still better then Mass Molestation.


How can you say that the mass genocide better than mass molestation? It's terrible. All of them.
But, only if you believe they are.

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[quote]7he Island Head wrote...

[quote]Iwillbeback wrote...

[quote]7he Island Head wrote...

[quote]Iwillbeback wrote...

[quote]7he Island Head wrote...

[quote]Iwillbeback wrote...

[quote]7he Island Head wrote...

[quote]Iwillbeback wrote...

[quote]7he Island Head wrote...

The biggest problem with the IT, is that control is a renegade option. That means that being a renegade is not a viable way to fight the reapers. If the IT is true is another unfair treatment of renegade players. Just like the rachni and everything else!
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Destroy was considered the Renegade option.

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In the IT is is flipped to confuse Shep. This means the IT supports that aragon Shep wins and renegade Shep loses.
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I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.

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Nope. The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best, and that is why the destroy ending is red to confuse Shep. It's not about what you think. It is about what the IT theory says. And it says the renegade Sheps can't win.

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I would need a link to this official IT theory and where you got this quote from

[quote]The IT theory assumes that paragon options are always the best[/quote]


Can't say I care  either way, but I will have an argument with whoever made it.
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http://www.youtube.c...FFhBn2U#t=3684s
Here is a link, it is only  talked about for a few moments

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That is merely a documentary.
Ignoring the colors as they don't matter.
What matters is what you do.

[quote]

I don't see it as Renegade or Paragon or Neutral.
A shepard that succumbs to the will of the Reapers will always lose.
A shepard who stands his ground and knows what to do will survive and have a chance to destroy the Reapers.
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They why did bioware color code the options? 

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Probably to weed out weak shepards.
A strong shepard will know what to do and will not be tricked by lies.