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[Frostmourne902]

 Before you flame me with "QQ NOOB"...

*small spoilers*

Anyone find the battles a lttle irritating and difficult sometimes? I played through some of the early game (till the town after Ostagar battle) in hard but had to lower the difficulty down to medium, that is fine.. but the first dragon you fight in the werewolf dungeon.. holy crap. First 6 tries half my party would die from the fire blasts before even reaching the dragon.. till I had to pull him into the halls and from then on it was a pause + potion fest. I wouldn't be this far if Morrigan didn't have heal.. I think it's the make up of my party mostly.

I'm a rogue. Alistar is the tank (templar), Leina a ranger and Morrigan is pretty much the same. At parts you get over whelmed with like 10 enemies, I have pretty much no AOE's. The stun's and knockdown pretty much prevent me from doing much. The tank usually gets surrounded by mobs so his defence isn't that great even with the right spells (shield defence and aoe taunt).. and mobs keep going after the ranged party members.. and chasing people down in this game is a pain. 

[Zejoph]

This might not help, but...



I always do the first portion of Redcliffe as my first post-Lothering quest. I feel the time spent there will level me up enough so by the time I'm done I'll have enough spells for adequate CC.



Some parts of the Dalish quest can be pretty hard at low levels.



So basically what I'm saying is to level up a bit and come back. Not the best suggestion, but it's something, right?

[royen1]

I have very little data to actually support this, but it seems the easiest path to take is something like Redcliffe, Mages, Urn, Elves, Dwarves. Also, having the 1.02 patch seems to help.



And yeah, some people think the game is a bit hard. Of course, others complain it's too easy soloing the game with no equipment on nightmare

[menasure]

royen1 wrote...
.... Of course, others complain it's too easy soloing the game with no equipment on nightmare

screenshots of every figth or it did not happen, when it does happen ... some skills are just overpowered all together and combined with exploit tactics ... then you probably might as well pick easy and take the worst builds and skills available for the same result because the difficulty is mainly what you make of it

i takes some time to get used to this kind of playing, it gets easier though when you play a second playthrough for example.

[Torias]

(Directed at the people who had their posts deleted)

Please do not post comments without any content.

If you are just contributing negative sentiment towards other posters, then it's better for everyone if you don't hit "submit", but move on to a different thread where you can engage in a constructive and fun discussion with other users.

[Bluto_Longneck]

LunSei Sleidee wrote...
<original post was deleted due to lack of content>

Ok, maybe this player tried this type of game for the first time?
Or he already tried BG, but wasn't aware of certain changes?
And if?, he's just a noob and want some answers?

Why don't you ENLIGHTEN people with your SUPERIOR WISDOM, instead of bashing them?

Not everyone on this forum, is a GOD like you, and might just need some hints?

Now, I retreat back to grovel in your prescence.

Modifié par Torias, 09 décembre 2009 - 09:42 .

[Bluto_Longneck]

Plz, stay!

I hate trolls, but this incident is like everything on the net, save my response so others can see.

In this instance, deleting my answer won't help, but keeping it might?

Modifié par Bluto_Longneck, 09 décembre 2009 - 09:43 .

[MartinJHolm]

For your first play-through I suggest just going for normal difficulty, I had quite a few problems first time around and found it hard at times.



Now that I have a good grasp of the game mechanics I find it very easy so just play and learn.

[Bluto_Longneck]

Thank you very much for nothing.



I was feeding untrolling.



I want that fist comment back!

[Rainen89]

For those struggling things you can do is adopt CC. Use spells like cone of cold, mass paralysis, mana clash religiously or at least when appropriate. In the example you gave stack dexterity high for Alistair it's almost more important than strength for a tank. He will be kinda weak til shield wall makes him immune to knockdown. For the rogue get momentum asap you'll see a dramatic increase in stabby prowess. If you're so inclined get poisons they do help a lot and are relatively cheap to make. Every little bit helps, a lot. Morrigan her focus should not be damage, honestly blowing everything up is a mage's last priority. Control is top priority you want CC paralysis/sleep/stuns like mindblast, etc. (Paralysis is highest priority as nothing is immune to it. Whereas demons/undead/golems are immune to sleep. Paralysis explosion is also very, very helpful. Glyph or Paralysis + Glyph of Repulsion.trust me it's a godsend.

For leliana honestly imo I would replace with dog,because howl is really helpful in the beginning an aoe stun is awesome. Other than that, get alistair to be champion asap. You want as many knockdowns/stuns as possible again damage is irrelevent you will hit plenty hard no matter what you play, but you want control over the monsters you fight. (For replacing Leliana she is useful when you get scattershot/captivating song.) But you will not get that til much later. For now adapt your party to your needs, go to Circle tower asap and pick up Wynne her healing abilities help a lot.

Modifié par Rainen89, 09 décembre 2009 - 09:50 .

[Zejoph]

royen1 wrote...

I have very little data to actually support this, but it seems the easiest path to take is something like Redcliffe, Mages, Urn, Elves, Dwarves. Also, having the 1.02 patch seems to help.

That's the order I've taken on this run-through and it seems to be working fairly well. Redcliffe is like a training ground, and then the Mage Tower buffs up all of your stats. They compliment each other well. Of course, if you're an archer, then doing the Elves portion earlier probably wouldn't be a bad idea for the bows you can find there.

[slaYert_]

I think it's pretty easy on normal now with patch 1.02 especially if you're a mage. Although i did came across an insanly hard fight yesterday with (spoiler?) Ser Cauthrien, she had a few hits that were close to 200 dmg instantly killing me. AND there were about eight archers constantly stunning everyone in my team and one mage. Without a doubt the most frustrating fight i came across, defenitly needs some re-balancing

[Keinu]

slaYert wrote...

I think it's pretty easy on normal now with patch 1.02 especially if you're a mage. Although i did came across an insanly hard fight yesterday with (spoiler?) Ser Cauthrien, she had a few hits that were close to 200 dmg instantly killing me. AND there were about eight archers constantly stunning everyone in my team and one mage. Without a doubt the most frustrating fight i came across, defenitly needs some re-balancing

Or maybe you should reconsider fighting her... nudge nudge...

[Rainen89]

To be fair the Cauthrien fight is set up to fail. It's not supposed to be a fight everybody wins which is why you're not penalized for dying. Frankly if you don't kite everyone behind the door, you will die no matter how awesomesauce you are.

[RetrOldSchool]

Frostmourne902 wrote...

 Before you flame me with "QQ NOOB"...

*small spoilers*

Anyone find the battles a lttle irritating and difficult sometimes? I played through some of the early game (till the town after Ostagar battle) in hard but had to lower the difficulty down to medium, that is fine.. but the first dragon you fight in the werewolf dungeon.. holy crap. First 6 tries half my party would die from the fire blasts before even reaching the dragon.. till I had to pull him into the halls and from then on it was a pause + potion fest. I wouldn't be this far if Morrigan didn't have heal.. I think it's the make up of my party mostly.

I'm a rogue. Alistar is the tank (templar), Leina a ranger and Morrigan is pretty much the same. At parts you get over whelmed with like 10 enemies, I have pretty much no AOE's. The stun's and knockdown pretty much prevent me from doing much. The tank usually gets surrounded by mobs so his defence isn't that great even with the right spells (shield defence and aoe taunt).. and mobs keep going after the ranged party members.. and chasing people down in this game is a pain. 

Traps my friend! Traps!
I'm playing on hard and did the Dalish quest right after Lothering, so I was level 7 or 8 when I had that encounter and it was hard! No healing spells on Morrigan, but apart from that I had the same party you did and it wiped me a couple of times before I used traps. Then I killed it without having to drink more than 1 or 2 potions (for the whole party).

2 large claw traps in a bottle neck can severely damage even bigger enemies. They might not get stuck in the trap but they will recieve heavy damage (comparing to the normal damage your party does). So since you're a rogue, be sure to use poison and traps when encounters are too hard.

[Krucible]

Hmmm..... Just got past this bit - but saved the Dalish till last - and I managed it quite easily by switching Alister and Leliana to archers and plugging away from a distance while my main took the beast on face to face, with Morrigan healing and blasting away with cone of cold and lightning.

[deathwing200]

slaYert wrote...

I think it's pretty easy on normal now with patch 1.02 especially if you're a mage. Although i did came across an insanly hard fight yesterday with (spoiler?) Ser Cauthrien, she had a few hits that were close to 200 dmg instantly killing me. AND there were about eight archers constantly stunning everyone in my team and one mage. Without a doubt the most frustrating fight i came across, defenitly needs some re-balancing

If you're fighting Cauthrien and archers at the same time, you're doing it wrong.

Modifié par Torias, 09 décembre 2009 - 10:27 .

[Zenon]

The Brecilian Forest is harder than Redcliffe or Tower of Magi. I once picked BF first after leaving Lothring, and had some very tough fights on "normal". Now I became better with my tactics, so I enjoy playing the game on hard right away. I went to Redcliffe first and while some fights are very challenging I enjoy the difficulty setting especially making tactics more vital with 100% friendly fire on the PC.

[K K Slider]

deathwing200 wrote...

slaYert wrote...

I think it's pretty easy on normal now with patch 1.02 especially if you're a mage. Although i did came across an insanly hard fight yesterday with (spoiler?) Ser Cauthrien, she had a few hits that were close to 200 dmg instantly killing me. AND there were about eight archers constantly stunning everyone in my team and one mage. Without a doubt the most frustrating fight i came across, defenitly needs some re-balancing

If you're fighting Cauthrien and archers at the same time, you're doing it wrong.

The battle just needs to be approached more tactically.

Modifié par Torias, 09 décembre 2009 - 10:33 .

[Rainen89]

Technically speaking I'm pretty sure the archers standing in the room like idiots while you kill their commanding officer is not working as intended. They don't do anything while you run back, it's stupid. They sit there even if you toss a nice little storm of the century in the middle of the room and don't attack unless you cross that threshold, the mages sit there and other than the two elite guards there are no melee. Like I said I don't think it was actually intended to be winnable because if every archer/guard followed you when you ran out and kept attacking you, you would probably die.

[krim80]

Well somethings that could help



1 Always have a mage or two and if possible one of them a heler.

2 Use a bow to engage one enemy at a time.

3 Focus fire one enemy at time and always try to take down their mages first.

[Zenon]

Concerning the claim, that cold spells, especially CC are the solution to everything:



They do make life easier, especially against big groups of enemies. But I found especially those in Redcliffe fighting with fire easier. Could be though, that I still need to check how it goes with fire on hard difficulty (other playthrough was on "normal"). That said I feel it also depends on the target how well ice works.

[Rainen89]

That's just because undead are thoroughly resistant to cold damage and nature. Fire (if you're enabling friendly fire anyway.) Is just a quicker way of wiping your own melee group. Otherwise yup, it's awesome. Fireball does amazing damage.

[menasure]

Torias wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

slaYert wrote...

I think it's pretty easy on normal now with patch 1.02 especially if you're a mage. Although i did came across an insanly hard fight yesterday with (spoiler?) Ser Cauthrien, she had a few hits that were close to 200 dmg instantly killing me. AND there were about eight archers constantly stunning everyone in my team and one mage. Without a doubt the most frustrating fight i came across, defenitly needs some re-balancing

If you're fighting Cauthrien and archers at the same time, you're doing it wrong.

The battle just needs to be approached more tactically.

it just can not be done with the average random party when you have no knowledge about what to expect, tactics will not save you if you do not have the "stuff" to beat her with you, be it by accident or intentional. to start with: not everyone plays with a heavy outfitted tank for example or walks around with enough potions for this particular fight. kiting tactics are in any case not easy when ser cautrien appears to be able to hit your guys even when you just ran around a corner

but anyway small hint: the difficulty in this particular fight is intentional.

Modifié par menasure, 09 décembre 2009 - 11:26 .