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Michael Pacher's Pach Attack- Whiners vs. Complainers - He brings up us ME3 people again.....


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BABEik52092

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He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

However, he defines complainers as "respectiful, thoughtful consumers that have an intelligent basis of argument on the issue at hand."

Its just so maddening to see that here he is whining about a minority of whiners among the Mass Effect 3 anti-enders population. We, as a fan base, DO IN FACT have a thoughtful and logical stance and supporting evidence as too why we believe the end to ME3 sucks and as to why we are so vocal about it.

I know most of you here hate Pacher anyway. Only watch the segment if you wanted to see how stupid his argument is.

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From Tuchanka with Love

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 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.

Modifié par From Tuchanka with Love, 12 mai 2012 - 10:50 .


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sAxMoNkI

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Whelp, good to see even professionals like to resort to petty name calling and verbal attacks sometimes.

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Ignore him. I've put gametrailers in my ever increasing pile of untrustworthy review sites, alongside IGN, Destructoid, Kotaku and GamesRadar. Seriously go read the GamesRadar analysis of the situation if you want to feel your blood boil. It begins with "I haven't played Mass Effect 3 and I don't care..." and then goes on to say we're whiny and entitled whatevers.

Just learn to laugh at their ill-informed, badly researched nonsense - it'll be easier in the long run.

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Who asked this guy for an opinion and why is it relevant?

Besides, he seems to be in the middle of some generalizations.

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From Tuchanka with Love

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ITT: Whine even more.

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

ITT: Whine even more.



Oh look a COD kiddy that knows nothing about the ME universe, go on back to COD troll. 

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.

You're late to the party. Catch up a few months for new insults.

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Simple solution: don't put a link to his articles. Any hits that he gets are good. He may or may not be the douchebag he appears to be, but he is being a somewhat smart journalist. He most likely can't think of anything else to write about, so he is falling back on a two month old argument, in order to spark angry visitors.

Treat journalists like trolls. If you don't agree, don't spread their work. You only help their case.

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Ugh he is so presumptuous.Well I am still annoyed with ending I keep myself occupied with school-work and the Witcher 2 where the choices made do have a noticeable effect ingame not just whining.

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Im an anti-ender and I enjoy Pachtors videos still. Is that odd?

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Jenonax wrote...

Ignore him. I've put gametrailers in my ever increasing pile of untrustworthy review sites, alongside IGN, Destructoid, Kotaku and GamesRadar. Seriously go read the GamesRadar analysis of the situation if you want to feel your blood boil. It begins with "I haven't played Mass Effect 3 and I don't care..." and then goes on to say we're whiny and entitled whatevers.

Just learn to laugh at their ill-informed, badly researched nonsense - it'll be easier in the long run.


Yeah I've read that article. If you haven't even finished the game let alone played it yet, you have nothing to add. So stupid.

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.


Right, we are the ones without logic ;)

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My outrage is eclipsed only by my complete inability to recognise this guys name, credentials, or any credible reason as to why his opinions should carry any weight whatsoever.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 12 mai 2012 - 10:56 .


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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.


Emotional reasons are valid with a game specifically made to establish emotional involvement. 

And hey, you're an a-hole. :o

Modifié par Sion1138, 12 mai 2012 - 10:57 .


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Isichar wrote...

Im an anti-ender and I enjoy Pachtors videos still. Is that odd?



I enjoy them for his idiocy. I laugh at how often he is wrong about the stuff that falls from his mouth.

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burke111 wrote...

Simple solution: don't put a link to his articles. Any hits that he gets are good. He may or may not be the douchebag he appears to be, but he is being a somewhat smart journalist. He most likely can't think of anything else to write about, so he is falling back on a two month old argument, in order to spark angry visitors.

Treat journalists like trolls. If you don't agree, don't spread their work. You only help their case.


Its just my way of saying from here on out no one here should watch his videos.

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Michael Pachter is a stooge for the big players.

IGNORE HIM, he gets money due to people giving a **** about his "theories".

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

ITT: Whine even more.


I can see your whine, do share.

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sAxMoNkI wrote...

Whelp, good to see even professionals like to resort to petty name calling and verbal attacks sometimes.


You approve of this kind of behaviour? :huh:

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What's even more amusing is that Mr. Pachter believes I care.

A journalist? Offer a fair opinion?

Don't make me laugh.

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Sublyminal wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Im an anti-ender and I enjoy Pachtors videos still. Is that odd?



I enjoy them for his idiocy. I laugh at how often he is wrong about the stuff that falls from his mouth.


Iv been watching his videos for a while now and hes said A LOT of stuff i disagree with but hes aware that his opinions differ from the average gaming fan and he does not hold back what he believes. I can respect that. Hes always taken the business' side of things. Its just another point of view which imo is valid. I dont agree with what he says but hes not entirely wrong either.

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.


Yes all those thoughtful evaluations of the ending are emotional and lack any form of logic.

Except no. You would have to try to to ignore all the arguements againist the ending.

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I'm sorry. He's just another guy whose input brings nothing but insults and stupification of the issue. No new insight is given by what he says and his words are as pointless to me as Rush Limbaugh. Ignoring them is usually the best option.

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BABEik52092 wrote...

However, he defines complainers as "respectiful, thoughtful consumers that have an intelligent basis of argument on the issue at hand."


That's what most of the arguments have been...