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[sAxMoNkI]

Tirranek wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Whelp, good to see even professionals like to resort to petty name calling and verbal attacks sometimes.

You approve of this kind of behaviour?

Haha, nah I meant it more as "So being petty and calling names isn't just reserved for the playground and BSN after all".

Poor phrasing on my part. Personally I think for a professional analyst its kind of a ridiculous statement to make.

[Chaoswind]

of course our reactions to the game will be emotional, this is a GAME, not a job.

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[Taboo]

LOL @ Journalists

[Tazzmission]

well he has a point op because its been over 3 months and people are still arguing over the damn thing


its time to just let go and focus on something else imo

[rbrown81]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your reactions to the ending are eniterly emotional and not even connected to anykind of logic.

[M0keys]

BABEik52092 wrote...



He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

he's defending EA from shareholder pressure. that's all he's doing, and that's the only kind of man he's playing. He works for Wedbush Securities, so there's no really good reason to get angry. his words are basically meaningless in our context.

So we can ignore this. Life will go on, as always

[Iwillbeback]

Tazzmission wrote...

well he has a point op because its been over 3 months and people are still arguing over the damn thing


its time to just let go and focus on something else imo

Yeah why are you still here?

[Darth Spike]

He is just trying to reinflate his ego. He see's how little talent he has and is doing it for attention. I'm not saying people who don't side with retake mass effect have little or no talent. Just him. He's the tye of person who likes to hear himself talk and thinks he is always right and everyone esle is wrong. The same type of person who thinks everyone esle is stupid unless they agree with him.


Just ingore the talentless hack, he'll go away in a few days because he thinks he's god again.

[Eterna]

Well it's not like he's wrong.

[KotorEffect3]

These threads always crack me up. Whining about being called whiners hence proving those of us that call you out as whiners correct.

[Atakuma]

M0keys wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...



He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

he's defending EA from shareholder pressure. that's all he's doing, and that's the only kind of man he's playing. He works for Wedbush Securities, so there's no really good reason to get angry. his words are basically meaningless in our context.

So we can ignore this. Life will go on, as always

You would have ignored it regardless.

[Themanclaw]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

These threads always crack me up. Whining about being called whiners hence proving those of us that call you out as whiners correct.

And does that mean he's whining about how people are whining?
Let's face it, whenever somebody has called somebody else a whiner in regards to the ME3 ending, they just mean: "I haven't seriously played through all 3 games, but because you've pointed out that something isn't fair and I haven't, I'm better than you and so will not even listen to any criticism you may have regardless of how true or relevant."

[Bourne Endeavor]

Ugh, arrogant, pretentious and intolerable. The man talks as though he is delighted to hear his own voice. Who answers a question by insulting the sender? Ah, "professionalism." We have dismissed that claim.

[KotorEffect3]

Themanclaw wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

These threads always crack me up. Whining about being called whiners hence proving those of us that call you out as whiners correct.

And does that mean he's whining about how people are whining?
Let's face it, whenever somebody has called somebody else a whiner in regards to the ME3 ending, they just mean: "I haven't seriously played through all 3 games, but because you've pointed out that something isn't fair and I haven't, I'm better than you and so will not even listen to any criticism you may have regardless of how true or relevant."

What is with the bsn and false assumptions?  I have played through all 3 games a ton of times.  Hell I just started another ME 1 playthrough today.

[webhead921]

I don't know who that guy is, but I watched the video and I think he's full of crap. He should get off his high horse.

[RukiaKuchki]

This isn't offensive at all, it's actually quite funny. The vast majority of people who have posted their dis-satisfaction with certain aspects of ME3 have been thoughtful and explained their reasoning (whether respectful or not is open to discussion however). But in fairness, there have been a fair few whiners too. 'Bioware sucks', 'You've ruined the whole trilogy for me', 'I want EA/Bioware to go out of business', 'I'm telling all my friends not to buy your products', 'It's been a couple of weeks now, why hasn't the ending been changed to what I wanted?', 'You like the ending? You must be an idiot', 'There doesn't have to be a happy ending, but I want my blue babies!'. Et cetera, et cetera. That is whining. Either that....or there's a lot of people paid by Activision to troll these forums ;-)

[Muhkida]

Looks like Pacher's is in the "pot calling kettle black" category.

So much for journalistic integrity and objectivity.

[M0keys]

Atakuma wrote...

M0keys wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...



He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

he's defending EA from shareholder pressure. that's all he's doing, and that's the only kind of man he's playing. He works for Wedbush Securities, so there's no really good reason to get angry. his words are basically meaningless in our context.

So we can ignore this. Life will go on, as always

You would have ignored it regardless.

Yup. Just trying to let people know who Pachter is so no one gets mad. He's all politics.

[DJBare]

BABEik52092 wrote...



He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

However, he defines complainers as "respectiful, thoughtful consumers that have an intelligent basis of argument on the issue at hand."

Its just so maddening to see that here he is whining about a minority of whiners among the Mass Effect 3 anti-enders population. We, as a fan base, DO IN FACT have a thoughtful and logical stance and supporting evidence as too why we believe the end to ME3 sucks and as to why we are so vocal about it.

I know most of you here hate Pacher anyway. Only watch the segment if you wanted to see how stupid his argument is.

I was unable to continue watching, he whines about whiners, his voice is whining all the way through, geeze.

[KotorEffect3]

DJBare wrote...

BABEik52092 wrote...



He just posted this up today on Gametrailers. He basically brings up Mass Effect 3 again and how we are all whiners and not complainers, because we are "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way" about the ending by wanting to not buy EA and Bioware products and by possibly having a hand in the "EA Worst Company in America" award.

However, he defines complainers as "respectiful, thoughtful consumers that have an intelligent basis of argument on the issue at hand."

Its just so maddening to see that here he is whining about a minority of whiners among the Mass Effect 3 anti-enders population. We, as a fan base, DO IN FACT have a thoughtful and logical stance and supporting evidence as too why we believe the end to ME3 sucks and as to why we are so vocal about it.

I know most of you here hate Pacher anyway. Only watch the segment if you wanted to see how stupid his argument is.

I was unable to continue watching, he whines about whiners, his voice is whining all the way through, geeze.

But he's right

[Clayless]

While I didn't watch the video this:

BABEik52092 wrote...

 "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way"

Is so true.

Disagree? How much people do you see saying they're going to hate the EC because "why would we want more of that ****?" (or something to that degree)?

How much people do you see pointing out that "X said this before the game came out and that was a LIE" and then doing absolutely nothing about it?

How much people do you see complaining about the big bad Bioware and EA and how they somehow wronged them, but again not actually doing anything about it?

That quote was spot on on how to describe that.

[Muhkida]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

While I didn't watch the video this:

BABEik52092 wrote...

 "sniveling in a peevish, self-pitying way"

Is so true.

Disagree? How much people do you see saying they're going to hate the EC because "why would we want more of that ****?" (or something to that degree)?

How much people do you see pointing out that "X said this before the game came out and that was a LIE" and then doing absolutely nothing about it?

How much people do you see complaining about the big bad Bioware and EA and how they somehow wronged them, but again not actually doing anything about it?

That quote was spot on on how to describe that.

You clearly never heard of Pachter before...

Modifié par Muhkida, 13 mai 2012 - 01:18 .

[Aramintai]

That guy becomes more and more arrogant and annoying with every next episode of his show.

First of all, I very much doubt that he even played Mass Effect - he's a casual gamer at best and as he said so himself earlier, he only buys console stuff like Kinect for his children. So he's not as invested in the story of the game, and he probably doesn't even know what exactly those so called "whiners" are whining about. Most likely he read some of those articles written by paid off gaming magazines like Game Informer and just repeats their words.

Second, he didn't visit BSN, YouTube or other most frequently visited sites discussing Mass Effect ending or he would have seen tons and tons of well thought of arguments explaining why the endings were bad. And having said so himself - if you are complaining constructively and present your arguments you are not a whiner.

And third, I sure did not appreciate that smug, insulting tone with which he practically labeled all those people who were dissatisfied with the endings as whiners. Sure, there are some hot headed individuals who are more vocal and less constructive than most, however that does not give him the right to insult the rest of the fans, who provided good, constructive feedback on what is wrong with this BioWare's product. And there definitely is something wrong with this product, a bigger mass of dissatisfied customers I've yet to see in the gaming history.

[Clayless]

Yeah it doesn't matter who said it.