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[CavScout]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...
Give us an explanation why you think that it is, and I quote- ":wizard: the IT is a totaly crock of BS."

Maybe you can explain why Shepard is not vaporized by this:

Mabe you should use the image a second later showing the center of the Citadel still intact.

The citadel orbiting the earth WOULD in fact come crashing down to earth since it lost its power to operate.

And that has to do with the price of tea in China how? Orbital decay is not instantaneous.

[Iconoclaste]

KevShep wrote...

They "dropped" that part because it did not work ALONG SIDE DIALOGUE CHOICES! In other works...they did not what to use that form of indoctrination ALONG side of dialogue choices that WE do ACTUALLY have at the end!

Were you at that meeting?

[Scimal]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...
Give us an explanation why you think that it is, and I quote- ":wizard: the IT is a totaly crock of BS."

Maybe you can explain why Shepard is not vaporized by this:

Mabe you should use the image a second later showing the center of the Citadel still intact.

The citadel orbiting the earth WOULD in fact come crashing down to earth since it lost its power to operate.

Not necessarily.

Depends how far away it was. Satellites don't constantly use thrusters to maintain orbits.

[Lookout1390]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

3 cheers for console limitations.

Thanks

Exactly. You are excluded from the "real ending" (IT) if you play on consoles, because of low-res not allowing to see all hints, and sound files playing crappy.

This gen of consoles has just been one facepalm after another.

[CavScout]

hoodaticus wrote...
If IT is true, it will be the second Bioware game that had a fake ending with the player being indoctrinated into thinking they won.  With credits and everything.

Except the fact that the other game had a clear second ending, ME doesn't. It would be the first where the only ending is fake.

[KevShep]

Scimal wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...
Give us an explanation why you think that it is, and I quote- ":wizard: the IT is a totaly crock of BS."

Maybe you can explain why Shepard is not vaporized by this:

Mabe you should use the image a second later showing the center of the Citadel still intact.

The citadel orbiting the earth WOULD in fact come crashing down to earth since it lost its power to operate.

Not necessarily.

Depends how far away it was. Satellites don't constantly use thrusters to maintain orbits.

No satellites use there thrusters only once to maintain a constent orbit. Speed must out do the gravity of earth to stay in orbit. 

Modifié par KevShep, 13 mai 2012 - 03:32 .

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...
If IT is true, it will be the second Bioware game that had a fake ending with the player being indoctrinated into thinking they won.  With credits and everything.

Except the fact that the other game had a clear second ending, ME doesn't. It would be the first where the only ending is fake.

Right, ME3 doesn't have a clear ending... yet. Summer is coming, just be patient.

Modifié par balance5050, 13 mai 2012 - 03:31 .

[CavScout]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...
Something dropped would need to be in the lore..... the ONLY fact from that paragraph is INDOCTRINATION is not mentioned

They "dropped" that part because it did not work ALONG SIDE DIALOGUE CHOICES! In other works...they did not what to use that form of indoctrination ALONG side of dialogue choices that WE do ACTUALLY have at the end!

You're just making that up. Why do IT folks do that?

Indocrination was not mention in that paragraph. It's a simple fact. Pretending it was is stupid.

[Subguy614]

@Cavscout has a point.

Personally, I like the IT. I cannot, however offer "proof" of it. I just think it would be cool if BW had managed to "indoctrinate" the player with a planned IT ending.

[CavScout]

balance5050 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...
If IT is true, it will be the second Bioware game that had a fake ending with the player being indoctrinated into thinking they won.  With credits and everything.

Except the fact that the other game had a clear second ending, ME doesn't. It would be the first where the only ending is fake.

Right, ME3 doesn't have a clear ending... yet. Summer is coming, just be patient.

And after you will still be pushing IT no matter what the DLC says/shows.

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...
Something dropped would need to be in the lore..... the ONLY fact from that paragraph is INDOCTRINATION is not mentioned

They "dropped" that part because it did not work ALONG SIDE DIALOGUE CHOICES! In other works...they did not what to use that form of indoctrination ALONG side of dialogue choices that WE do ACTUALLY have at the end!

You're just making that up. Why do IT folks do that?

Indocrination was not mention in that paragraph. It's a simple fact. Pretending it was is stupid.

You are avoiding the known fact that "full reaper control" = indoctrination.

[KevShep]

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...
Something dropped would need to be in the lore..... the ONLY fact from that paragraph is INDOCTRINATION is not mentioned

They "dropped" that part because it did not work ALONG SIDE DIALOGUE CHOICES! In other works...they did not what to use that form of indoctrination ALONG side of dialogue choices that WE do ACTUALLY have at the end!

You're just making that up. Why do IT folks do that?

Indocrination was not mention in that paragraph. It's a simple fact. Pretending it was is stupid.

Why do Anti-I.T. people never pay attention to the lore? The ONLY way to be under full reaper control is to be indoctrinated...duh! 

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...
If IT is true, it will be the second Bioware game that had a fake ending with the player being indoctrinated into thinking they won.  With credits and everything.

Except the fact that the other game had a clear second ending, ME doesn't. It would be the first where the only ending is fake.

Right, ME3 doesn't have a clear ending... yet. Summer is coming, just be patient.

And after you will still be pushing IT no matter what the DLC says/shows.

Not insane, just hopeful, I think Shepard has worn of on me is all.

[CavScout]

balance5050 wrote...

CavScout wrote...
You're just making that up. Why do IT folks do that?

Indocrination was not mention in that paragraph. It's a simple fact. Pretending it was is stupid.

You are avoiding the known fact that "full reaper control" = indoctrination.

You presume a lot.

Hell, how could one even be under "full reaper control" and make their own decisions? If under "full reaper control" you, as the player, wouldn't need to make choices... you be under "full reaper control".

[Iconoclaste]

KevShep wrote...

They "dropped" that part because it did not work ALONG SIDE DIALOGUE CHOICES! In other works...they did not what to use that form of indoctrination ALONG side of dialogue choices that WE do ACTUALLY have at the end!

You are implying that the dialogues left in game were the ones they planned for the IT sequence, we don't. Why do you hope for us not to see this is at least as sound possibility as your version?

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 13 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[CavScout]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...
You're just making that up. Why do IT folks do that?

Indocrination was not mention in that paragraph. It's a simple fact. Pretending it was is stupid.

Why do Anti-I.T. people never pay attention to the lore? The ONLY way to be under full reaper control is to be indoctrinated...duh! 

Where in the lore does it state that the ONLY way to be under "full reaper control" is Indoctrination?

[Scimal]

KevShep wrote...

No satellites use there thrusters only once to maintain a constent orbit. Speed must out do the gravity of earth to stay in orbit. 

They don't have to fire them all the time, though. Maybe once every couple of years, depending on how good your calculations are.

The Moon has been around for about 4.5 billion years, and will be around for another couple of billion until it escapes Earth's gravitation field. It's not constantly firing thrusters.

[CavScout]

Scimal wrote...

KevShep wrote...

No satellites use there thrusters only once to maintain a constent orbit. Speed must out do the gravity of earth to stay in orbit. 

They don't have to fire them all the time, though. Maybe once every couple of years, depending on how good your calculations are.

The Moon has been around for about 4.5 billion years, and will be around for another couple of billion until it escapes Earth's gravitation field. It's not constantly firing thrusters.

Ok, that made be spit out my coke.... 

[balance5050]

What? Is science funny?^^

[CavScout]

balance5050 wrote...

What? Is science funny?^^

Only funny because it makes IT preachers look like tools.

I.E. A Indoctrination Theorist makes an absurd claim that is supposed to prove Indoctrination Theory and it is so fundamentally flawed that a just modicum of common sense destroys it.

Modifié par CavScout, 13 mai 2012 - 03:42 .

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

What? Is science funny?^^

Only funny because it makes IT preachers look like tools.

Wow thats.... immature.

[Lookout1390]

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

What? Is science funny?^^

Only funny because it makes IT preachers look like tools.

While you devotedly defend your side of the argument.

Hey pot, it's kettle.

[CavScout]

Lookout1390 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

What? Is science funny?^^

Only funny because it makes IT preachers look like tools.

While you devotedly defend your side of the argument.

Hey pot, it's kettle.

I bet in your world view, round Eathers and the same as flat Earthers....

[Iconoclaste]

I'm sad that a good idea (IT) could have turned into this ridiculous mantra repeated inanely just because some supporters have begun to sit on their pride, being around themselves "for thousand pages of EVIDENCE", which turn out to be mostly self-gratification among a small group of players that will not suffer from a little kick in the weaknesses of their construct.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 13 mai 2012 - 03:45 .

[Lookout1390]

CavScout wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

What? Is science funny?^^

Only funny because it makes IT preachers look like tools.

While you devotedly defend your side of the argument.

Hey pot, it's kettle.

I bet in your world view, round Eathers and the same as flat Earthers....

That probably sounded better in your head, cause I'm not entirely sure what point you are trying to make.