This is conveniently ignored by IT supporters, of course. And I still would like to see them explaining Mr. Ray Musika's statement and "surprise" after a few days of ranting here on the forums, if he knew this was only a trick to be revealed later. It's just buggling my mind to imagine that he wouldn't be aware of IT being the plan "all along".Nyoka wrote...
Um, didn't Weekes say people survived the explosion on the citadel because there are shelters and stuff? And that due to FTL research, the galaxy is still a lively place after the destruction of the relays? Either he's willingly deceiving people or those things really happened.
Understanding the fundamental of IT.
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#151
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:25
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Retour en haut
#152
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:25
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BatmanTurian wrote...
Answer the question and stop dodging. Otherwise you are trolling and not even worth debating.CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Then explain to us what the endings really are to you. Did they happen? Are they canon? What do you actually believe? Because it's hard to argue your case if you have no case to stand on.CavScout wrote...
You invoke logic but fail at it so spectacularly. There is no reason to presume the endings aren't real unless one belives in IT in the first place.
Your stance, simplified without insults, is " I disagree with this I.T. interpretation. " So then, what would you think is the actual case? What is the basis of your argument?
Are you so unable to support your own claims that you have to fall back to the attack the other debater stance for a puncher's chance in debate?
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
#153
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:26
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Then I put forth ONE simple question, That EVEN YOU will understand..............WHY are you even in here?
Why shouldn't I be? I paid for the game.
#154
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:26
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When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.
Hackett Out.
Hackett Out.
#155
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:27
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BatmanTurian wrote...
CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Then explain to us what the endings really are to you. Did they happen? Are they canon? What do you actually believe? Because it's hard to argue your case if you have no case to stand on.CavScout wrote...
You invoke logic but fail at it so spectacularly. There is no reason to presume the endings aren't real unless one belives in IT in the first place.
Your stance, simplified without insults, is " I disagree with this I.T. interpretation. " So then, what would you think is the actual case? What is the basis of your argument?
Are you so unable to support your own claims that you have to fall back to the attack the other debater stance for a puncher's chance in debate?
Answer the question and stop dodging. Otherwise you are trolling and not even worth debating.
Don't bother with him
He is just going to respond with what you sent him, and is going to keep dodging the question and won't answer it directly.
#156
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:27
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BatmanTurian wrote...
Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. And that's all either side's points are at this moment in time: opinion.Sdrol117 wrote...
I totally give up on these people. I admit it, the IT is cool, and thought provoking. But is it part of this game and the story? No. Moving on.
Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".
#157
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:27
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CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Answer the question and stop dodging. Otherwise you are trolling and not even worth debating.CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Then explain to us what the endings really are to you. Did they happen? Are they canon? What do you actually believe? Because it's hard to argue your case if you have no case to stand on.CavScout wrote...
You invoke logic but fail at it so spectacularly. There is no reason to presume the endings aren't real unless one belives in IT in the first place.
Your stance, simplified without insults, is " I disagree with this I.T. interpretation. " So then, what would you think is the actual case? What is the basis of your argument?
Are you so unable to support your own claims that you have to fall back to the attack the other debater stance for a puncher's chance in debate?
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
Support yours. Did the endings actually happen, in your opinion, or are they to be ignored and not discussed?
#158
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:28
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MegaSovereign wrote...
When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.
Hackett Out.
It has already proven wrong.
EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.
#159
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:28
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BatmanTurian wrote...
CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Then explain to us what the endings really are to you. Did they happen? Are they canon? What do you actually believe? Because it's hard to argue your case if you have no case to stand on.CavScout wrote...
You invoke logic but fail at it so spectacularly. There is no reason to presume the endings aren't real unless one belives in IT in the first place.
Your stance, simplified without insults, is " I disagree with this I.T. interpretation. " So then, what would you think is the actual case? What is the basis of your argument?
Are you so unable to support your own claims that you have to fall back to the attack the other debater stance for a puncher's chance in debate?
Answer the question and stop dodging. Otherwise you are trolling and not even worth debating.
BINGO! We have a winner!
The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14. He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:28
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CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. And that's all either side's points are at this moment in time: opinion.Sdrol117 wrote...
I totally give up on these people. I admit it, the IT is cool, and thought provoking. But is it part of this game and the story? No. Moving on.
Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".
Actually they are, when both sides have circumstancial evidence to back up their claims. Now you're ignoring logic again and being arrogant as usual.
#161
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:29
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You just proved my post right.ohupthis wrote...
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I'm sad that a good idea (IT) could have turned into this ridiculous mantra repeated inanely just because some supporters have begun to sit on their pride, being around themselves "for thousand pages of EVIDENCE", which turn out to be mostly self-gratification among a small group of players that will not suffer from a little kick in the weaknesses of their construct.
OK look, what would you f**king prefer, all of us to just roll-over and forget this whole SH*Tpile never existed?
Not in this lifetime are YOU or CAVhole going to change MY view of this nightmare GOT IT?!!
SO just back off.
Answer my first question, then we'll talk, OK?
#162
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:29
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CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. And that's all either side's points are at this moment in time: opinion.Sdrol117 wrote...
I totally give up on these people. I admit it, the IT is cool, and thought provoking. But is it part of this game and the story? No. Moving on.
Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".
What's your opinion of the ending then CavScout?
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:30
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BatmanTurian wrote...
Support yours. Did the endings actually happen, in your opinion, or are they to be ignored and not discussed?CavScout wrote...
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
Those answers would not be relevant to the discusion of IT. Why don't you ask what color my socks are?
#164
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:31
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Ad Hominem:
The claim that something must be false because the person who said it is not thought to be credible, regardless of the argument itself.
Example- Did it ever occur to you that you are a crazed religious nut? (and therefore I am not going to listen to a word you say, or try to refute your arguments).
The claim that something must be false because the person who said it is not thought to be credible, regardless of the argument itself.
Example- Did it ever occur to you that you are a crazed religious nut? (and therefore I am not going to listen to a word you say, or try to refute your arguments).
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Why? Because of the "synthesis hegemony"?MegaSovereign wrote...
When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.Hackett Out.
#166
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:31
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Sisterofshane wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Then explain to us what the endings really are to you. Did they happen? Are they canon? What do you actually believe? Because it's hard to argue your case if you have no case to stand on.CavScout wrote...
You invoke logic but fail at it so spectacularly. There is no reason to presume the endings aren't real unless one belives in IT in the first place.
Your stance, simplified without insults, is " I disagree with this I.T. interpretation. " So then, what would you think is the actual case? What is the basis of your argument?
Are you so unable to support your own claims that you have to fall back to the attack the other debater stance for a puncher's chance in debate?
Answer the question and stop dodging. Otherwise you are trolling and not even worth debating.
BINGO! We have a winner!
The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14. He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.
Agreed. When pressed, he turns the argument away from the question asked. I'm fine with his disagreement. It's the fact that he's not even trying to discuss anything. His only purpose for being in any I.T. thread seems to be to naysay without bringing up his own points.
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#167
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:31
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CavScout ... Ive backed up my claim now you answer my question!
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Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO! We have a winner!
The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14. He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.
I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:32
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CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Support yours. Did the endings actually happen, in your opinion, or are they to be ignored and not discussed?CavScout wrote...
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
Those answers would not be relevant to the discusion of IT. Why don't you ask what color my socks are?
Oh but you're mistaken, ALL ANSWERS ARE RELEVANT TO THE I.T. BWAAAHAHAAHAA!
Atleast answers about the ending,
Y U NO ANSWER QUESTIONS?!
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CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Support yours. Did the endings actually happen, in your opinion, or are they to be ignored and not discussed?CavScout wrote...
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
Those answers would not be relevant to the discusion of IT. Why don't you ask what color my socks are?
The answers are relevant because they are the basis of your counter-argument, if you even have one. Otherwise just admit you are a troll.
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:32
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No. Go fishing with someone else.ohupthis wrote...
Answer my first question, then we'll talk, OK?
#172
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:33
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BatmanTurian wrote...
CavScout wrote...
Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".
Actually they are, when both sides have circumstancial evidence to back up their claims. Now you're ignoring logic again and being arrogant as usual.
False equivalency is false equivalency.
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:33
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CavScout wrote...
ohupthis wrote...
Ok what would yer ending look like?CavScout wrote...
Yet, here you are supporting IT the best way you know how....
And what the hell is a Pro-Ender? Are IT folks only capable of having a single thought in their mind at one time? Can one not be dismissive of IT and wish the ending was done in a different way?
What bearing does it have AGAINST the validity of IT?
There it needed fixin'............. you're welcome
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Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:33
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CavScout wrote...
Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO! We have a winner!
The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14. He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.
I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.
Where is it systemically destroyed? Where have you offered a counterpoint to anything, except to speak in hypotheticals?
#175
Posté 13 mai 2012 - 04:34
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When did you stop molesting sheep?balance5050 wrote...
CavScout wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
Support yours. Did the endings actually happen, in your opinion, or are they to be ignored and not discussed?CavScout wrote...
Support your claims. Asking a question when challenged for proof doesn't get one off the hook.
Those answers would not be relevant to the discusion of IT. Why don't you ask what color my socks are?
Oh but you're mistaken, ALL ANSWERS ARE RELEVANT TO THE I.T. BWAAAHAHAAHAA!
Atleast answers about the ending,
Y U NO ANSWER QUESTIONS?!
Loaded questions are loaded.
