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[BatmanTurian]

Lookout1390 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.

Hackett Out.

It has already proven wrong.

EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.

People keep saying this. Saying it doesn't make it true. In actuality, they refuted many theories but danced around I.T.

[KevShep]

Sisterofshane wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO!  We have a winner!

The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14.  He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.

I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.

Where is it systemically destroyed?  Where have you offered a counterpoint to anything, except to speak in hypotheticals?

This^

Modifié par KevShep, 13 mai 2012 - 04:35 .

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Answer my first question, then we'll talk, OK?

No. Go fishing with someone else.

Refusal to specualate? hmmm...

 

[Iconoclaste]

Sisterofshane wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO!  We have a winner!

The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14.  He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.

I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.

Where is it systemically destroyed?  Where have you offered a counterpoint to anything, except to speak in hypotheticals?

That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

[CavScout]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout ... Ive backed up my claim now you answer my question!

You have not.
You claimed "indoctrination" was used in that Final Hours app. It wasn't.
You claimed "full reaper control" can only mean indoctrination as proved by the codex. You failed to back it up.

Just because other Indoctrination Theory Adapts are cheering you on doesn't mean you've actually accomplished anything.

[Lookout1390]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO!  We have a winner!

The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14.  He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.

I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.

Where is it systemically destroyed?  Where have you offered a counterpoint to anything, except to speak in hypotheticals?

That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

[BatmanTurian]

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CavScout wrote...
Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".

Actually they are, when both sides have circumstancial evidence to back up their claims. Now you're ignoring logic again and being arrogant as usual.

False equivalency is false equivalency.

It's only false equivalency in your mind. All opinions have equal validity if they are plausible. They are not facts so there is no false equivalency. It can be my opinion that the grass should be purple and yours that it should be orange. Neither matters because they are opinions and so they have equal merit.

[CavScout]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.

Hackett Out.

It has already proven wrong.

EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.

People keep saying this. Saying it doesn't make it true. In actuality, they refuted many theories but danced around I.T.

A conspiracy theory is not true simply because it hasn't been "refuted".

[balance5050]

Cavscout said:.

You claimed "full reaper control" can only mean indoctrination as proved by the codex. You failed to back it up.




What else could it mean? don't avoid the question. What is
"full reaper control"  if not indoctrination. How does a reaper gain "full reaper control"?

Modifié par balance5050, 13 mai 2012 - 04:39 .

[CavScout]

Lookout1390 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

Why should he? How does it support/disprove IT?

[BatmanTurian]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...
BINGO!  We have a winner!

The Guy has offered nothing to the actual debate itself, other then the fact that he believes we are all debating wrong.Read number 14.  He refuses to debate you all because he believes you crazy for arguing in favor of IT, but has offered nothing solid in this thread to refute the evidence with which you present.

I guess if you ignore where your supposed evidence is systematically destroyed, then I guess you can pretend that.

Where is it systemically destroyed?  Where have you offered a counterpoint to anything, except to speak in hypotheticals?

That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Our only gain would be to steer this debate into a more civil discussion about circumstantial evidence rather than descending into ad hominem again.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

CavScout wrote...

ohupthis wrote...
Then I put forth ONE simple question, That EVEN YOU will understand..............WHY are you even in here?

Why shouldn't I be? I paid for the game.

Prove it, balls in yer court sunshine.

[BatmanTurian]

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.

Hackett Out.

It has already proven wrong.

EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.

People keep saying this. Saying it doesn't make it true. In actuality, they refuted many theories but danced around I.T.

A conspiracy theory is not true simply because it hasn't been "refuted".

A literary interpretation is not a conspiracy theory. English 101 fail.

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.

Hackett Out.

It has already proven wrong.

EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.

People keep saying this. Saying it doesn't make it true. In actuality, they refuted many theories but danced around I.T.

A conspiracy theory is not true simply because it hasn't been "refuted".

So then you know it can still be true. Open your mind. It's a beautiful universe.

[Lookout1390]

CavScout wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

Why should he? How does it support/disprove IT?

That's what I'm trying to find out, because he dodged the question with a question.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...
I totally give up on these people. I admit it, the IT is cool, and thought provoking. But is it part of this game and the story? No. Moving on.

Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. And that's all either side's points are at this moment in time: opinion.

Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".

That makes as much sense as everything else you've spewed forth, which amounts to nothing.
oh one more thing, no further replies to you ok? sunshine?

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

Why should he? How does it support/disprove IT?

Seriously? you guys can't even debate properly, the only reason not to answer is either because you don't know or you're afraid of what people will say.

[CavScout]

BatmanTurian wrote...

CavScout wrote...
False equivalency is false equivalency.

It's only false equivalency in your mind. All opinions have equal validity if they are plausible.

 
Is this something your mother told you? Probability = / = Plausibility

Is this thinking a side effect of the kids growing up playing sports where no score is kept and everyone is a winner?

They are not facts so there is no false equivalency. It can be my opinion that the grass should be purple and yours that it should be orange. Neither matters because they are opinions and so they have equal merit.

We are not offering opinoins on what color grass should be. You are claiming a game didn't happen the way it played out. You are claiming something no supported by the developers nor the games actual ending.

You can claim it is your opinon that the sun is cold but doesn't make it equal to my claim that it is in fact hot.

[Sisterofshane]

CavScout wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

Why should he? How does it support/disprove IT?

Funny you should mention that, because nothing you say does either.

Picking apart the method of argumentation while ignoring the actual evidence presented is to offer up invalid counterpoints.  It contributes nothing to either side of the argument, except to prove that you feel we are unworthy of debating you.  Ad hominem.

So give me something to actually discuss and dispute.

[balance5050]

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

When/If the IT gets proven wrong. I expect some Hitler rant parodies. A lot of hitler rant parodies.

Hackett Out.

It has already proven wrong.

EA released a big ol' "**** you" back in April saying that it wasn't.

People keep saying this. Saying it doesn't make it true. In actuality, they refuted many theories but danced around I.T.

A conspiracy theory is not true simply because it hasn't been "refuted".

There are a bunch of conspiracies that did turn out to be true as well.

[CavScout]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Our only gain would be to steer this debate into a more civil discussion about circumstantial evidence rather than descending into ad hominem again.

You and yours won't stop with ad hominems. It the last refuge of true belivers and poor debaters.

[Lookout1390]

balance5050 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...
That being true or false, do you really believe IT is going to gain something out of this?

Answer his question

Why should he? How does it support/disprove IT?

Seriously? you guys can't even debate properly, the only reason not to answer is either because you don't know or you're afraid of what people will say.

This

Please, keep bumping this thread. I want more IT-bashers to read this thread.

Delicious

[KevShep]

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout ... Ive backed up my claim now you answer my question!

You have not.
You claimed "indoctrination" was used in that Final Hours app. It wasn't.
You claimed "full reaper control" can only mean indoctrination as proved by the codex. You failed to back it up.

Just because other Indoctrination Theory Adapts are cheering you on doesn't mean you've actually accomplished anything.

I guess I cant argue with some one that says the codex and wiki are wrong

You sound like you were easly indoctrinated/fooled by Bioware when you got to the ending. This whole serise has been about destroying the reapers and you let a REAPER kid talk you into throwing all of that out the window in JUST 10 minutes to pick control/synthesis...or TIM's/Saren's path!

[BatmanTurian]

ohupthis wrote...

CavScout wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...
I totally give up on these people. I admit it, the IT is cool, and thought provoking. But is it part of this game and the story? No. Moving on.

Fair enough. You have a right to your opinion. And that's all either side's points are at this moment in time: opinion.

Opinoins are not equal just because they are "opinions".

That makes as much sense as everything else you've spewed forth, which amounts to nothing.
oh one more thing, no further replies to you ok? sunshine?

Maybe we should all collectively ignore him. not because he has any valid points (because he never makes any) but because he's kind of a waste of time.

[CavScout]

ohupthis wrote...

CavScout wrote...
Why shouldn't I be? I paid for the game.

Prove it, balls in yer court sunshine.

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