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[Bill Casey]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

What is that some sort of tricky wordplay?

Geth arent a race.

They are a non-council race...

[ZIPO396]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

[eddieoctane]

I saved both. You want to know why?

[Zardoc]

My owl says you're wrong.

Modifié par Zardoc, 13 mai 2012 - 04:25 .

[dreman9999]

Of course they are not people..They are Geth...That's obvious. They are still sentient and deserve to live. And the quarians attacked them.

[wantedman dan]

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

We get it...
You're racist...

What is that some sort of tricky wordplay?

Geth arent a race.

I'm inclined to Agree with him...
Robots aren't a Race...They're Robots

The problem being that being a "race" is isn't up to majority vote. Equality is equality.

Modifié par wantedman dan, 13 mai 2012 - 05:05 .

[Bill Casey]

The Codex

The geth are a humanoid race of networked A.I.s.

lolz

[TheClonesLegacy]

Bill Casey wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

What is that some sort of tricky wordplay?

Geth arent a race.

They are a non-council race...

DAMN YOU CODEX DAMN YOOOOOOU!!!! 
Dammit no Screaming Emote:(
oh wait you weren't Quoting me aw

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 13 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[Catamantaloedis]

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

EDIT:

I don't give a damn about the Codex or anything Bioware says about anything. In order to be a race, you actually have to be alive.

Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 13 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[Made Nightwing]

Hmm. For the sake of reasoned conversation: While I would say that the geth have achieved 'sapience', they lack all of the biological functions that make a 'person'. They don't feel physical or mental pain, they don't have any of the necessary biological triggers for 'love', about the only thing they feel is a sense of self-preservation similar to any animal.

It's hard to figure out the logic of things in a fictional video game universe though.

[Deuterium_Dawn]

Taboo-XX wrote...

And here is the man who claimed that Bioware supported Fascism.

Terrible trolling.

And yet he gets 10+ pages every time. Don't feed the trolls people.

[Bill Casey]

Measure of a Man

[TheClonesLegacy]

Bill Casey wrote...

Measure of a Man

I love that Episode 

[111987]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

EDIT:

I don't give a damn about the Codex or anything Bioware says about anything. In order to be a race, you actually have to be alive.

The Geth are different though. Even before the upgrades, we see how they change due to experience, and can reach different conclusions based on the same evidence. Just like a human.

Also, how are we superior? The Geth are physically superior, mentally superior, are immortal, and far less prone to conflict than organics because of the way they reach consensus. No poverty, oppression, or anything like that in Geth society.

[ZIPO396]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

EDIT:

I don't give a damn about the Codex or anything Bioware says about anything. In order to be a race, you actually have to be alive.

"HUMANS ARE SUPERIOR"

We aren't really born unique. We're all born the same way really well one of two ways really. But I won't go into that here.

It's likely Geth have various minor deviations in their code like humans do in their genetics so they are unique.

Oh now that is a slippery slope. I ask you sir what does it mean to be "alive"?

[Volc19]

Whoever doesn't save that beautiful race of genocidal, war-mongering, self-sabotaging organics over the horrid race of peaceful, far-more-useful-in-combat synthetics is a monster and should be flogged in public.

I also love the endings and think ME1 wasn't good.

/heavy heaping doses of sarcasm that, if actualized, could drown a whale.

[Catamantaloedis]

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

EDIT:

I don't give a damn about the Codex or anything Bioware says about anything. In order to be a race, you actually have to be alive.

The Geth are different though. Even before the upgrades, we see how they change due to experience, and can reach different conclusions based on the same evidence. Just like a human.

Also, how are we superior? The Geth are physically superior, mentally superior, are immortal, and far less prone to conflict than organics because of the way they reach consensus. No poverty, oppression, or anything like that in Geth society.

A real person is created unique. Geth are not. 

They do not have personhood. They are chinatown imitations of life.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

Nowhere in the dictionary is 'people' or 'person' defined by individuality.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Volc19 wrote...

Whoever doesn't save that beautiful race of genocidal, war-mongering, self-sabotaging organics over the horrid race of peaceful, far-more-useful-in-combat synthetics is a monster and should be flogged in public.

I also love the endings and think ME1 wasn't good.

/heavy heaping doses of sarcasm that, if actualized, could drown a whale.

...So it would be so deep the Whale couldn't Breach it for air?

[Mendelevosa]

On a scale from -1 to -10, I give this thread a -11.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 13 mai 2012 - 05:14 .

[111987]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Geth are different though. Even before the upgrades, we see how they change due to experience, and can reach different conclusions based on the same evidence. Just like a human.

Also, how are we superior? The Geth are physically superior, mentally superior, are immortal, and far less prone to conflict than organics because of the way they reach consensus. No poverty, oppression, or anything like that in Geth society.

A real person is created unique. Geth are not. 

They do not have personhood. They are chinatown imitations of life.

The Geth are created unique. Even in their early stages they were built for specific functions

Also, even if you make the argument that the Geth aren't people, what about us makes us superior to them?

[Catamantaloedis]

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

If I'm trolling, then that means that you can prove that Geth are people.

Please do so.

Not what trolling means.

How am I trolling by bringing up a point which everyone is too stupid to refute. If I was trolling then I would be saying something nonsensical, like Quarians aren't people or humans aren't people or Krogan aren't animals.

The Geth are clearly not people because they are a lesser life form. They're tools.

See going and calling everyone here stupid is another way to not win any fans.

If I have to explain what trolling is to you or how it appears that you are then you shouldn't be on the internet.

But if you wanna look at the cannon then it goes like this. The Geth started off as tools became self aware devolped emotions and started making irational decisions as well. Like fixing holes with substandard materials. There for they are no longer tools and are on par with other senient life and can be refered to as people.

They are not people. People are individuals. People are born unique.

Geth are not individuals. Even if they become individuals they are not created uniquely. All geth are created exactly the same, like anything created in a factory. Only experience makes them different.

Real people are born unique, and also change by their experiece as well. They are superior.

EDIT:

I don't give a damn about the Codex or anything Bioware says about anything. In order to be a race, you actually have to be alive.

"HUMANS ARE SUPERIOR"

We aren't really born unique. We're all born the same way really well one of two ways really. But I won't go into that here.

It's likely Geth have various minor deviations in their code like humans do in their genetics so they are unique.

Oh now that is a slippery slope. I ask you sir what does it mean to be "alive"?

Except there's exactly 0% proof that the Geth are created differently, and its extremely likely that they were all created the same, because they had no value on individuality before the Reapers came, because they were a collective. And thus Legion is the only Geth who is an individual who was only created to interact with the outside world.

[MisterJB]

Does anyone wants to make a bet on which species will the next thread be focused on?
I say vorcha.

[Catamantaloedis]

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Geth are different though. Even before the upgrades, we see how they change due to experience, and can reach different conclusions based on the same evidence. Just like a human.

Also, how are we superior? The Geth are physically superior, mentally superior, are immortal, and far less prone to conflict than organics because of the way they reach consensus. No poverty, oppression, or anything like that in Geth society.

A real person is created unique. Geth are not. 

They do not have personhood. They are chinatown imitations of life.

The Geth are created unique. Even in their early stages they were built for specific functions

Also, even if you make the argument that the Geth aren't people, what about us makes us superior to them?

Being a person is infinitely more valuable than being an imitation of a person. That's what makes real people superior.

[Deuterium_Dawn]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

And thus Legion is the only Geth who is an individual who was only created to interact with the outside world.

Legion is actually a mini-collective of geth.