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[GreyLycanTrope]

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

[TheClonesLegacy]

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shep-Dammit      ^ She beat me too it

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 13 mai 2012 - 05:38 .

[Catamantaloedis]

Gallifreya wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Gallifreya wrote...

Hrmmm...how about "make peace, or either way you're an a**hole"? Just a thought.

Also, do you prefer quarters, nickles, or dimes?

Making peace is a copout. In a game about making hard choices, its incredible counterintuitive how easy they make it for you to just ignore the hard choices.

Hey, you didn't answer my second question. I need to know what to feed you. Would you prefer an assortment of all three?

nikals

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

[TheClonesLegacy]

MisterJB wrote...

All of this hate is being wasted on the geth.
We should be hating the batarians instead.

Right on Brother!!!
Bunch a four eyed Freaks the Batarians are

[111987]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

[wantedman dan]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

Racism isn't valid. That is why he is a troll.

[TheClonesLegacy]

wantedman dan wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

Racism isn't valid. That is why he is a troll.

Why not?
I've brought up enough Valid Points about the Asari and why they suck and yet I've been reffered to as a troll before.

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 13 mai 2012 - 05:41 .

[ArchDuck]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

Let me help you out with the understanding:

ArchDuck wrote...

OP is presenting an emotional conclusion as an argument. There is no way to debate it because it is emotional based and thus not subject to intellectually reasoning.

Please quit feeding the troll.

Modifié par ArchDuck, 13 mai 2012 - 05:42 .

[eddieoctane]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...


Except that humans would react uniquely to different stimuli from birth, it has nothing to do with how mature they are. Geth are not like that.

This is becuase of physiological differences (most of which are related to genetics). Once said differences are removed, some psychologists would argue that they wouldn't act any differently. There is a uniqueness that occurs naturally in organics. The Geth only gained their inherent uniqueness at the end of the Rannoch story arc. My point still stands. They need time for their ability to act uniquely to manifest itself.

So you are stating that at the Geth factories, where they produce new Geth, these Geth are unique from their creation? I think that requires proof.

When did the game ever establish that the Geth reproduce? Legions dialog about basically becoming less intelligent when the dyson swarm was attacked leads me to believe that they lack the ability to reproduce, as many other races talk about reproduction at some point.

And if you want a scientific reason for uniqueness, lets go with quantum computing and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. Any time you introduce a truly random variable, you can't expect the equation to yield the same result. So there is a reason why AIs can be unique.

[Catamantaloedis]

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

[ArchDuck]

Greylycantrope wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

[o Ventus]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

Did you switch sides all of a sudden?

[TheClonesLegacy]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

Organics arent people?
You might wanna edit that post lol

[ArchDuck]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

Finally he gets it. :innocent:

[wantedman dan]

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

Racism isn't valid. That is why he is a troll.

Why not?
I've brought up enough Valid Points about the Asari and why they suck and yet I've been reffered to as a troll before.

This is the second time I'm asking you:

Are you seriously defending racism?

[TheClonesLegacy]

ArchDuck wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

Wrex.

Shepard

[TheClonesLegacy]

wantedman dan wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Why are guys calling him a troll? I don't agree but he has a valid point which I can understand.

Racism isn't valid. That is why he is a troll.

Why not?
I've brought up enough Valid Points about the Asari and why they suck and yet I've been reffered to as a troll before.

This is the second time I'm asking you:

Are you seriously defending racism?

nope
I'm just throwing Wood on the Fire to see what Smoke comes out

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 14 mai 2012 - 04:45 .

[111987]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

That didn't answer my question. The Geth are now just like organics. So what is your complaint now?

[Catamantaloedis]

eddieoctane wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...


Except that humans would react uniquely to different stimuli from birth, it has nothing to do with how mature they are. Geth are not like that.

This is becuase of physiological differences (most of which are related to genetics). Once said differences are removed, some psychologists would argue that they wouldn't act any differently. There is a uniqueness that occurs naturally in organics. The Geth only gained their inherent uniqueness at the end of the Rannoch story arc. My point still stands. They need time for their ability to act uniquely to manifest itself.

So you are stating that at the Geth factories, where they produce new Geth, these Geth are unique from their creation? I think that requires proof.

When did the game ever establish that the Geth reproduce? Legions dialog about basically becoming less intelligent when the dyson swarm was attacked leads me to believe that they lack the ability to reproduce, as many other races talk about reproduction at some point.

And if you want a scientific reason for uniqueness, lets go with quantum computing and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. Any time you introduce a truly random variable, you can't expect the equation to yield the same result. So there is a reason why AIs can be unique.

The Geth become less intelligent when they "die" because they lose the perspective of those programs, I believe. That has nothing to do with their reproduction. There's no reason to believe they can't reproduce.

Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 13 mai 2012 - 05:46 .

[Catamantaloedis]

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

That didn't answer my question. The Geth are now just like organics. So what is your complaint now?

At the very root of geth nature, they are all the same. 

[Cobretti ftw]

Lets troll this thread

[111987]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

111987 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

That's incredibly inaccurate. Humans are actually not blank slates. They are born with certain temperaments,and predispositions towards certain personalities. You cannot ignore the role of genetics in personality because it is huge.

Yes, you are right. But it isn't as significant of a difference as you are suggesting.

No more significant than the Geth having different personalities, different experiences, different outlooks...

Except that people have all of those things as well, but are in fact born unique in addition, because of genetics which you are still downplaying despite it likely, since there's no real way of pinning down its exact influence, being extremely significant.

Okay...so my question is why does being born different matter if the end result is the same (diversity)?

Organic life will have a greater amount of variation because they are born differently.

If two Geth have the same experiences throughout their life span, you will have two geth which are exactly the same. The same would not be true for an organic person. 

Organics are not people. They are just an imitation.

That didn't answer my question. The Geth are now just like organics. So what is your complaint now?

At the very root of geth nature, they are all the same. 

What the hell does that mean?

That's like saying at the very root of human nature, they are all the same.

[MisterJB]

Racism is never acceptable. Except when it's against batarians.
Kar'Shan is the toilet of the galaxy.

Modifié par MisterJB, 13 mai 2012 - 05:47 .

[wantedman dan]

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

nope
I'm not I'm Counter Argueing

You're counter-arguing in favor of racism?