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[2seater]

yeah, I thought that the trial would've been an awesome way to add exposition to newcomers and a brief 'remember this' to the fans.

[Ramus Quaritch]

jojon2se wrote...

To be unnecessarily rude and unfair; I'm not entirely sure that the category of new players they were trying to attract, were the sort to care that much about either the backstory, or the running one, in the first place.
More the spoonfeed-me-in-as-short-as-possible-bursts-between-the-action type.

That is exactly whom Bioware structured ME3 for.  They're trying to please everyone (or the shooter crowd) lessened the game, in my opinion.  

[Ramus Quaritch]

Being forced to defend yourself and your actions during your trial as a build-up to the Reaper invasion would have made for a good plot-line and more emotional beginning to the game (i.e. suddenly having to defend the people who were just calling you a traitor and such). Unfortunately, Bioware thought new players have low attention spans and would get bored so they just threw us into the action. Artistic integrity, right?

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 14 mai 2012 - 08:03 .

[Repearized Miranda]

Silasqtx wrote...

Chashan wrote...
It would also only be one of two obvious options, really, this being the renegade-route of "ends justifying the means", with a grain of prejudice towards batarians in general possibly thrown in I'd wager...the other being Shepard truly regretting the action. As is, we are not even given a choice there, which is just very, very weak. Even Arrival allowed for Shepard to express as much either way to Hackett, despite the odious lack of repeated attempts to warn the batarian colony...

Agreed, but think about it: Anderson told Shepard like 1-2 minutes before the trial that "something massive is headed our way xoxo what could possibly be?". Paragon or Renegade, Shepard would focus his attention on this matter rather than on the whole Trial, don't you think? That's why roleplaying the trial seems (to me) pointless, at least in comparison with the Reaper threat. Don't get me wrong,  extra scenes that play out the trial are indeed welcome, but not that important (again, imo).

I don't think it's a matter of importance! People thought they were going to see it! If anything, Shepard has his/her trial with the chance of possible execution (For those who've played the game know what I'm getting at) No different than the opening dialog which obviously meant Shepard got off. (Given what you've done, you're lucky worse didn't happen!) I wish they hadn't nixed it, but it really may not have been necessary which may be why they did!

Deduction and Inference, but nobody wants that anymore!

[CARL_DF90]

Poll numbers so far are actually an interesting indicator of where people stand on a "Shepard Trail" DLC for backstory, recap, and character building a la the Genesis DLC. Whatever Bioware does I sincerely hope they don't do something cheap and stupid like the comic and use the actual in-game engine for the scenes and dialogue, and can use ME2 footage for the flashbacks of decisions made, or decisions that CAN be made for the character builder.

[CARL_DF90]

Hopefully we'll get this after the EC.

[Eromenos]

I want the trial to happen.

[Zolt51]

We'll see. I would have been OK with the trial as a DLC to ME2. In ME3 it would be just weird. I think it's good and proper that the game starts straight away with the Reaper's arrival

Anyway, priorities, priorities. I think the EC is a bit more important right now. After that, future DLC will probably follow the time-honored formula of equal parts plot and combat.

The poll should probably be phrased to reflect that. I think everyone would like to see that trial, the only question is when and how? Like:

- I don't care about the EC. The trial should come first so get cracking!
- Very top of my priorities for DLC, I'm unlikely to buy other DLC before this comes out.
- High it my priorities for DLC.
- and so on...

Modifié par Zolt51, 15 mai 2012 - 07:20 .

[incinerator950]

Arcian wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

Cutting the trial out was such a wasted oppurtunity.

You can't cut out what was never included in the first place.

Let them Dream.

Also, Where is Assassin Nigel?

[CARL_DF90]

Zolt51 wrote...

We'll see. I would have been OK with the trial as a DLC to ME2. In ME3 it would be just weird. I think it's good and proper that the game starts straight away with the Reaper's arrival

Anyway, priorities, priorities. I think the EC is a bit more important right now. After that, future DLC will probably follow the time-honored formula of equal parts plot and combat.

The poll should probably be phrased to reflect that. I think everyone would like to see that trial, the only question is when and how? Like:

- I don't care about the EC. The trial should come first so get cracking!
- Very top of my priorities for DLC, I'm unlikely to buy other DLC before this comes out.
- High it my priorities for DLC.
- and so on...

It could be used as a character builder prologue DLC. You know, recap for imported players, character-building for new ones, and fully skipable for those who imported their Shep's from ME2. There was going to be a trial sequence in there at first. Heck, Bioware even talked about it a few times. Instead, we got too much in the way of actiony opening. Bleh.

Anywho, this will have to be after the EC comes out of course.

Modifié par CARL_DF90, 15 mai 2012 - 07:35 .

[ZombieGambit]

Too bad the trial took place 6 months prior to the events of ME3. Maybe as a DLC for ME2.

[Repearized Miranda]

Arcian wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

Cutting the trial out was such a wasted oppurtunity.

You can't cut out what was never included in the first place.

No, they hinted at it and really sounded like they were going to use it. (Maybe they never intended to, but why would they drop hints?)

That was one of the first things heavily noticed and yet, it was just reduced to a few lines!

The whole issue with the trail given the Batarian strike; however, that isn't to say that dropped it completely (note the condensed to a few lines).

For me, I got the hint given what was there at the beginning and later in the game. People are just wondering why they nixed it if they did decide to go with it; however, many have made their own conclusions about it.

So, yeah, it wasn't included (since it's not on YT). Yet, from what folks have read (speculation perhaps), it seems likely something occured for it not to have happened.

How's there Tali's trial in ME2 (which pales in comparison), but no trail for Shepard? It's not about which crime is bigger necessarily either, but Treason vs. Genocide? What your scale criteria! Besides, if Anderson's line didn't emphasize magnitude, I don't know what did? You don't sweep something like that under the rug, but in the end you get what you want - all in one line? Something doesn't add up because that was way too easy!!

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 15 mai 2012 - 07:38 .

[shodiswe]

I was expecting to get the trial part, or at least part of it.

Though personaly I don't mind the way the start was designed. I know Shepard can handle the trial without me at the controlls... It's just another formal, blah blah we need to keep the Batarians on friendly terms so we are throwing up a fake trial. Then you can help brief us on cerberus and those ridiculus reaper things you keep nagging on about..

The start was ok, I woudln't mind talkign to some people on earth before the reapers attack, maybe help some people with something to create a more personal bond to some poor people who get left behind.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Arcian wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

Cutting the trial out was such a wasted oppurtunity.

You can't cut out what was never included in the first place.

At one point it was going to be included in the development process, so if it had continued to progress through the process it would have been included in the final game, so you can't say it was never included in the game.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

shodiswe wrote...

I was expecting to get the trial part, or at least part of it.

Though personaly I don't mind the way the start was designed. I know Shepard can handle the trial without me at the controlls... It's just another formal, blah blah we need to keep the Batarians on friendly terms so we are throwing up a fake trial. Then you can help brief us on cerberus and those ridiculus reaper things you keep nagging on about..

The start was ok, I woudln't mind talkign to some people on earth before the reapers attack, maybe help some people with something to create a more personal bond to some poor people who get left behind.

You don't think someone in the legislature who is not privy to the reapers or collectors (which btw were believed to be a myth)would want to make an example out of Shepard for his crimes by joining a terrorist organization? It would be kind of cool  (if you don;t choose the correct answer) to be able to lose the trial.

[Alikain]

as long as your background (what i mean is if you are a spacer then you mother is present) play a part in it then yes.

[CARL_DF90]

Well, that is pretty much a given.

[JBONE27]

I would love to see a trial. Could you please hyperlink the poll?

[CARL_DF90]

It's definitely something I'll be looking forward to after the EC hits.

[CARL_DF90]

Anyone else?

[RocketManSR2]

Damn it, thanks for reminding me of this.....

*Adds to list of things I hated in ME3*

[suprhomre]

Although it's a good request but I doubt it will be done, sorry.

[Ajensis]

Oh yes, I was really looking forward to the trial too! But luckily I was warned by a friend beforehand that there wouldn't be a trial at the beginning after all, so at least it wasn't an unpleasant surprise :-)

Voted yes, mainly for the reasons others have stated already, that it would be a great way of summarising what's happened, and the build-up to the invasion would be pretty neat too. It could have a lot more effect and punch than the beginning that we currently have.

[CARL_DF90]

Exactly so! I'm hoping it's on Bioware's DLC to do list in the future.