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estebanus wrote...

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IT is freaking hilarious. It's fun watching these fanboys with their loose grip on reality desperately try to avoid simple fact that Bioware are crap writers who wrote a crap story.



OH sure, the entire 3rd installment is bad..........................uh huhImage IPB



Yup, everything was bad, like Tuchanka, or even worse still, Rannoch! :devil:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Rannoch was terrible, Tuchanka was the only good part of the entire story.

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Seboist wrote...

IT is freaking hilarious. It's fun watching these fanboys with their loose grip on reality desperately try to avoid simple fact that Bioware are crap writers who wrote a crap story.

about this get the **** out of here if u hate bioware so much and go play cod

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Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.



You say that your Shepard is not like anyone elses. That is fine, if not totally true.


Ultimately, all Shepard's are the same. The way they feel is exactly the same, the way they see things is exactly the same, and finally, the way they react to different things is exactly the same.

The only difference is how we ourselves feel about it, not how Shepard does.

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draken-heart wrote...

i am not that sick if, but only because i see I.T. as a viable hypothesis (hypothesis comes before theory).

i personally think that Shepard is just hallucinating from blood loss and the reapers are using that hallucination to get to Shepard's emotions.

thats the same thing as the IT theory

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the only people who hate the IT Theory is people who hate Creative writing and thinking.


Fixed.


Re-fixed, you're quite welcome.Image IPB

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IT is respectable, but I don't believe in this theory. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe IT is true. There is a lot of players who have a constructive opinion on IT, and they must be respected.

BW must also respect these players (and all the other fans) and an official communication from BW confirming or not the IT would be appreciable.

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Sdrol117 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Seboist wrote...

IT is freaking hilarious. It's fun watching these fanboys with their loose grip on reality desperately try to avoid simple fact that Bioware are crap writers who wrote a crap story.



OH sure, the entire 3rd installment is bad..........................uh huhImage IPB



Yup, everything was bad, like Tuchanka, or even worse still, Rannoch! :devil:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Rannoch was terrible, Tuchanka was the only good part of the entire story.



Image IPB

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ohupthis wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

the only people who hate the IT Theory is people who hate Creative writing and thinking.


Fixed.


Re-fixed, you're quite welcome.Image IPB

thank you

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Aaleel wrote...

Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.


everyone has its breaking point, and shepard is near his/hers. it's a miracle that shepard hasn't had this mental struggle earlier since he's/she's been around more reapers and reaper artifacts than any individual alive.
every shepard would eventually reach this breaking point, then it's up to you to choose...resist or submit. 

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estebanus wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.



You say that your Shepard is not like anyone elses. That is fine, if not totally true.


Ultimately, all Shepard's are the same. The way they feel is exactly the same, the way they see things is exactly the same, and finally, the way they react to different things is exactly the same.

The only difference is how we ourselves feel about it, not how Shepard does.


Not true at all.  Some Shepard's spent 2 days unconscious around a reaper aftifact, some Shepard's didn't.  Some Shepard's experienced the lose of multiple squadmates on the Suicide Missions, some none.  So Shepard's experienced the loss of many friends in ME3, some just had Legion and Mordin.  Some saved their crew at the end of ME2, some have the guilt of not going after them right away.

When asked by squadmates how they're feeling, some say confident, some say apprehensive.  When asked about past losses, some say the miss everyone, some focus on just the VS.

The list goes on and on and on.

Modifié par Aaleel, 13 mai 2012 - 07:06 .


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Sdrol117 wrote...

 Yup.


Yup.

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Indoctrination theorists are like 9/11 truthers: cute at first, but now just a contemptibly annoying cult-like group that tries to shove it's views down your throat at every opportunity.

Post credits rubble = WTC #7

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Aaleel wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.



You say that your Shepard is not like anyone elses. That is fine, if not totally true.


Ultimately, all Shepard's are the same. The way they feel is exactly the same, the way they see things is exactly the same, and finally, the way they react to different things is exactly the same.

The only difference is how we ourselves feel about it, not how Shepard does.


Not true at all.  Some Shepard's spent 2 days unconscious around a reaper aftifact, some Shepard's didn't.  Some Shepard's experienced the lose of multiple squadmates on the Suicide Missions, some none.  So Shepard's experienced the loss of many friends in ME3, some just had Legion and Mordin. 

When asked by squadmates how they're feeling, some say confident, some say apprehensive.  When asked about past losses, some say the miss everyone, some focus on just the VS.

The list goes on and on and on.


Different in the way that My Shepard has done more than your's becasue I've played all the DLC.

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CombustiblePanda wrote...

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If you're sick of people talking about it, just go somewhere else. Problem solved.


K, well I guess that's it then.  Anyone who doesn't support IT can't come on the forums. Right.  <_<



No, just avoid the topic, is that all that difficult?Image IPB


Except almost every thread turns into the IT at some point, in some form.

That is the point the OP was trying to make.


BY creating a thread ABOUT......................................... IT?Image IPB

Yeah that works, uh huh.Image IPB

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HiddenKING wrote...

I used to refer to my penis as IT. Now some stupid idea, that's little more than a hypothesis, uses it. :


You called your penis "Indoctrination Theory" and you call the idea stupid?

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estebanus wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Seboist wrote...

IT is freaking hilarious. It's fun watching these fanboys with their loose grip on reality desperately try to avoid simple fact that Bioware are crap writers who wrote a crap story.



OH sure, the entire 3rd installment is bad..........................uh huhImage IPB



Yup, everything was bad, like Tuchanka, or even worse still, Rannoch! :devil:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Rannoch was terrible, Tuchanka was the only good part of the entire story.



Image IPB


The awkward moment when somebody thinks a super retarded boss battle with a nobody reaper is good, and the entire quarian versus Geth storyline totally wasnt a joke, and then has to post a picture instead of using intelligent words because they can't back up their claims.

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ohupthis wrote...

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"Anyone else sick of IT? "

No, because if IT turns out to be true, I'm going to take pleasure in knowing we were all headf*cked.


Bioware sells uncomplete game and fans rejoice.

How sad.



As opposed to the Pro-enders, rejoicing over an unfinished game now?Image IPB

Yeah get real.Image IPB


Are you suggesting that I am satisfied with the current ending?

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Aaleel wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.



You say that your Shepard is not like anyone elses. That is fine, if not totally true.


Ultimately, all Shepard's are the same. The way they feel is exactly the same, the way they see things is exactly the same, and finally, the way they react to different things is exactly the same.

The only difference is how we ourselves feel about it, not how Shepard does.


Not true at all.  Some Shepard's spent 2 days unconscious around a reaper aftifact, some Shepard's didn't.  Some Shepard's experienced the lose of multiple squadmates on the Suicide Missions, some none.  So Shepard's experienced the loss of many friends in ME3, some just had Legion and Mordin. 

When asked by squadmates how they're feeling, some say confident, some say apprehensive.  When asked about past losses, some say the miss everyone, some focus on just the VS.

The list goes on and on and on.


About Arrival: It is considered canon that Shepard destoyed the Bahak system, regardless if you did it or not.
This is confirmed in a comic.

Also: You're right that Shepard may or may not have lost a lot of friends, but you do not know how they personally feel. You only know how you yourself feel. That is the point of an RPG.

Ultimately, the sense of loss they feel is the same. The difference is what that sense of loss is concentrated on.

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estebanus wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Meh, one of my biggest problems with the Indoctrination Theories, seeing they're several of them, people can't even decide on one canon IT. But I digress...

One of my biggest problems is that it makes all Shepard's equal. A Shepard that experienced Object Rho in Arrival is the same as one that didn't. All Shepard's took the death of the VS exactly the same. Somehow every Shepard running down the hill in the same weakened mental state to be forced into this battle for their mind.

My Shepard is nothing like anyone elses.



You say that your Shepard is not like anyone elses. That is fine, if not totally true.


Ultimately, all Shepard's are the same. The way they feel is exactly the same, the way they see things is exactly the same, and finally, the way they react to different things is exactly the same.

The only difference is how we ourselves feel about it, not how Shepard does.


Not true at all.  Some Shepard's spent 2 days unconscious around a reaper aftifact, some Shepard's didn't.  Some Shepard's experienced the lose of multiple squadmates on the Suicide Missions, some none.  So Shepard's experienced the loss of many friends in ME3, some just had Legion and Mordin. 

When asked by squadmates how they're feeling, some say confident, some say apprehensive.  When asked about past losses, some say the miss everyone, some focus on just the VS.

The list goes on and on and on.


About Arrival: It is considered canon that Shepard destoyed the Bahak system, regardless if you did it or not.
This is confirmed in a comic.

Also: You're right that Shepard may or may not have lost a lot of friends, but you do not know how they personally feel. You only know how you yourself feel. That is the point of an RPG.

Ultimately, the sense of loss they feel is the same. The difference is what that sense of loss is concentrated on.


False.  If you didn't do Arrival.  Hackett sent in a squad of commandos to do it, who all die in the process.  Shepard was never there.

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balance5050 wrote...

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Anyone else sick of people who hate the IT when they don't even take an hour to read about it or even get their facts straight?



YEAH, Uh there are a couple of 'em that should go and play their WII til it 'splodes.Image IPB


By the way cavscout is bumping the thread again

http://social.biowar...803/28#12032162 



Cool, front page news will always win, the dayImage IPB

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Lizardviking wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

DJBare wrote...

"Anyone else sick of IT? "

No, because if IT turns out to be true, I'm going to take pleasure in knowing we were all headf*cked.


Bioware sells uncomplete game and fans rejoice.

How sad.



As opposed to the Pro-enders, rejoicing over an unfinished game now?Image IPB

Yeah get real.Image IPB


Are you suggesting that I am satisfied with the current ending?


Sorry man, the Cult of Indoctrination Theory believes that the entire world is separated into two groups:  those who accept the divine truth of IT and those who love the current endings. 

Those of us who think both the endings and IT are garbage do not factor into their thinking.

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Sdrol117 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Sdrol117 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Seboist wrote...

IT is freaking hilarious. It's fun watching these fanboys with their loose grip on reality desperately try to avoid simple fact that Bioware are crap writers who wrote a crap story.



OH sure, the entire 3rd installment is bad..........................uh huhImage IPB



Yup, everything was bad, like Tuchanka, or even worse still, Rannoch! :devil:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Rannoch was terrible, Tuchanka was the only good part of the entire story.



Image IPB


The awkward moment when somebody thinks a super retarded boss battle with a nobody reaper is good, and the entire quarian versus Geth storyline totally wasnt a joke, and then has to post a picture instead of using intelligent words because they can't back up their claims.



That awkward moment when you realize that someone disagrees with you. That awkward moment when someone realizes that maybe ones own opinion not necessarily is true, and that maybe oneself can't deal with other people having different opinions on what is good or not. That awkward moment when one maybe should think about one's stance on the interpretations of the same thing by different people.

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IT should be mentioned here:



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estebanus wrote...

That depends on the people that discuss it.

Some (Most I know of) bring forth very insightful points, while others just act like zealots.
The same goes for people who are against the theory.

There will always be the smart ones, and there will always be the overly zealous ones. The same goes for each and everything in this world.
I'm also sick of people who don't bring forth any evidence to support their claims, but just ridicule us and treat us like scum.
And I know one side that does that very frequently.

If you can't accept that some people have different opinions than yours, then you're gonna have to deal with it. Trying to impeach our rights of civil discussion won't help your case in any way.


Very much this. I tire of people coming onto a forum about discussion actively attempting to remove or impede discussion. It's negates the entire premise of this board. It's also foolish and incredibly close-minded. People on both sides seem to do it, but there is one side who does this more.

At any rate, saying there are sides in this is false. However, there is no other way to describe this situation in English terms. All of us did not like the ending in its literal interpretation (well, most of us). All of us are united in the hope for a better, more cohesive ending in the EC. None of us actually like that we were sold an unfinished game These uniting opinions should be more important than whether or not someone believes the ending was a metaphor or just bad writing. Arguing amongst ourselves in an uncivil manner accomplishes nothing.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 13 mai 2012 - 07:23 .


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jules_vern18 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

DJBare wrote...

"Anyone else sick of IT? "

No, because if IT turns out to be true, I'm going to take pleasure in knowing we were all headf*cked.


Bioware sells uncomplete game and fans rejoice.

How sad.



As opposed to the Pro-enders, rejoicing over an unfinished game now?Image IPB

Yeah get real.Image IPB


Are you suggesting that I am satisfied with the current ending?


Sorry man, the Cult of Indoctrination Theory believes that the entire world is separated into two groups:  those who accept the divine truth of IT and those who love the current endings. 

Those of us who think both the endings and IT are garbage do not factor into their thinking.



And another one who compares the IT with cults. Seriously, how may more of these people exist?