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[Kobisud]

I have this problem: right from the start of the game I noticed
that the screen turned most of the time all types of colours, green,
purple but most of the time red

can anyone think of something to do about it....

btw my pc is: Toshiba Satellite A200-1IW
laptop 
http://eu.computers....UCT_ID=135245#0

2.2 GHz
2 Gb memory
Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 2600

[Tosheroon]

This is most likely a result of poor laptop driver support. According to the link you provide, that last driver for your laptop display dates to 2008 for any OS below Windows 7. Even the Windows 7 driver dates to March 2009, so it is still 9 months out of date.



Another cause could be overheating and/or memory corruption. Does the laptop get excessively warm when you start the game?



As for solutions, if it is a driver problem you could try to find an updated or modified driver for your mobility GPU, although I have no links for such a driver. Also, have you tried running the game all on low settings to conserve VRAM usage and see if that is the issue? Good luck.

[Kobisud]

tnx for the fast replay

my laptop does overheats but i had no problem with that till now.

i downloaded the latest drivers (but they are still from 2008) and tried to play on the lowest settings

but still have the same problem.

btw why do i need modified driver ? isn't the last updated (from 2008) good enough if im using XP ?

and why (or why) overheating causes color problems ?

[Tosheroon]

Older drivers sometimes cause strange issues with newer games for various reasons, e.g. memory management issues, shader issues, game-specific idiosyncrasies that are not foreseen. Overheating can cause colour problems because if a GPU rises above its thermal limits, memory and core processor errors become excessive and the visible result will be artifacts or strange colour representations.



By modified driver, I meant that some third parties adapt more recent GPU drivers for desktop models to be able to be installed on mobile chipsets. Of course, this is not officially endorsed nor recommended and I only suggested it if you were interested in non-official solutions to your problem. There is no guarantee that such drivers would solve your issue, so it is likely not a good idea unless you are familiar with tweaking computer software and hardware.



I have read other reports on this forum of people having trouble with your particular chipset, and I don't think any workable solution has yet been found. Such is the case when gaming on mobile chipsets as they are often less compatible with games than their desktop counterparts.

[DJ Polaar]

I am running an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 (on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop) and I don't have any issues running Dragon Age with it.



The driver version I have 8.632.1.2000 (dated 2009-08-17) which was downloaded from Windows Update. The laptop is running Windows 7 (32-bit.)

[Kobisud]

do u think that something like "Notebook Cooler Pad with 3 built-in 60mm Fans" or some other cooling pad can solve it ? or should I buy a new graphic card ?



btw sorry for all the bugging, i just bought the stupid game couse i thought i can play it on my pc

[Kobisud]

DJ Polaar - ill try to update my windows maybe it will help... tnx

[DavidEfreet]

If you still have problems after this, you could increase your ram to 4 GB I think is the max for that computer. It's GPU uses Hyper thread tech, which can do alot better the more ram you add to the machine. It has dedicated memory, but can utilize unused system memory as well I believe. If you do try this option, I would check with a Comp Tech store to have it done. They will know the memory compatibilty that can be used for the upgrade. Doing this yourself is NOT recommended. It should not be more than 100-200 dollars to have done, depending on what memory chips are needed in comparison to having to buy a new machine. In this case it would be two 2 GB chipsets. The upside of having this done is that your system will perform better playing a game or not. It will have more room to perform things instead of deciding what is most important as an operation and placing other things on hold as it does the operations. One additional thing that can help is placing your machine on Best performance rather than best appearance in the system panel. See anything you don't use program wise? Delete it lol If your antivirus software offers startup options block-out things you dont use, for example I dont use Messenger, alas I don't allow it to load. Just one extra process I do not need, and one that can load when needed by another program. Just be mindful of what you use and what you dont use. If you don't know about the program you want to delete, look it up on the internet and see what others say about it and what it is used for. One feature that xp has is a listing under Add or remove programs that tells you how often you have used something. It will alert you of any conflicts by performing the uninstall upon which you can select cancel. Never remove anything that deals with windows updates, just to be safe. Goodluck.

[andysdead]

technically, your graphics card isn't supported.

[Tosheroon]

andysdead wrote...

technically, your graphics card isn't supported.

It is certainly borderline, as it is worse than the previous generation x850 listed on the minimum specs. Then add in the fact that it is a mobile chipset. 

[Kobisud]

thanks guys

ill try everything and post an update

[Kobisud]

PROBLEM SOLVED !!!

all I had to do was untag the frame buffer effects tag and it solved the problem !

now the game runs smoothly

tnx for all the help

and pass the word

[Gorath Alpha]

Lobsang1979 wrote...

andysdead wrote...

technically, your graphics card isn't supported.

It is certainly borderline, as it is worse than the previous generation x850 listed on the minimum specs. Then add in the fact that it is a mobile chipset. 

No laptop is supported, officially.  However, both of you need to review the Video Card Rankings before making the mistakes that you both made in this thread.  The only reason that the Bioware official requirements for the Dx9.0"b" version of SM3 ended up at the X850 was the "general" driver availability for the X700 and X800 varieties was more limited by ATI and its partners. 

Compared to the Geforce cards of the same period, an X850 was as fast as anything else (pretty much) until the 8000s finally arrived.  ATI had the speed crown with their 9800 XT, X850 XTP, and X1950 XTX, for three years. while nVIDIA played second fiddle.  The X000s, however, didn't have Dx9.0"c", and the Geforces had that a year earlier (than the Radeons), with their 6000s.  The lower end of the X000s remained at Dx9.0"a" (pixel shader SM2), the same as the 9600 that everything from X1050 to X600 was all cloned from. 

The Omega drivers for the X700 and X800 make them able to run in DA: O, although only the "XT" from the X700 would likely work at all well, and the two lowest of the X800s are slower than an X700 XT.  I don't think that the named Geforce 6600 GT is afequate for DA: O, either, although it certainly will try to run.  Similarly, the X1550 that Bioware named for a minimum Vista Radeon is worse than anything named here in this thread so far, being no better than the X1300 Vanilla it was renamed from (it was very slightly tweaked, but not even to the X1300 Pro's level). 

The practical equivalent to the Geforce 7600GT (which isn't as fast as an X800) was actually the X1650 Pro, although that 7600 more or less splits the performance break between the X1650 Pro and the X 1650 XT. 

A desktop HD 2600 is slightly better than the X1650 Pro, and definitely better (for shaders, especially), than the Geforce 7600 GT.  If a laptop producer would actually adhere to the Engineering Reference Sample performance standards, a mobile HD 2600 Pro would be the same as the desktop version. 

(Desktop) HD 2600 Pro vs. X1650 Pro: www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Rankings List here:  social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/128343 

P. S. To be strictly correct, the usage of the term "chipset" refers to ASICs, not GPUs.  The mainboards all have at least one motherboard ASIC that handles the motherboard's own hardware.  More and more frequently, there is a second ASIC, commonly referred to as a "Southbridge", even though that was originally rather specific to Intel's chipsets. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 décembre 2009 - 10:44 .