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[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You assume you know better than an omniscient being. Omniscient beings don't operate on fallible, emotional human morality, homeslice. This is why you guys didn't understand the ending.

I'm not religious.

I don't believe in such beings.

They don't make scientific sense.

[Subguy614]

@From Trollchanka with L(ittle reason):

Catalyst is not omniscient that would make it God.

[GDK]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You don't have to call something God because it's omniscient.

No, but it has to be omniscient to be omniscient. 

The Catalyst admitted it made a flawed system. Period. 

[From Tuchanka with Love]

PPF65 wrote...

They have no artictis integrity though. Bioware stated that we wouldn't get an "A, B or C" ending, but gave us just that. How can you claim "artistic integrity" when you blatantly went against your own word? Failed artistic vision is failed.

You can't fail at being an artist. Art is interpretive. A million people may think your art is garbage, but that doesn't make it not art. Also, artistic integrity/vision is simply the direction of your art. Where you see your art ending. If you're satisfied in what you wanted to convey with your art, it's irrelevant what anyone else says. Art is not objective. However, the Catalyst is objective and so is the things he says.

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You assume you know better than an omniscient being. Omniscient beings don't operate on fallible, emotional human morality, homeslice. This is why you guys didn't understand the ending.

I'm not religious.

I don't believe in such beings.

They don't make scientific sense.

>Implying that omniscient endings have anything to do with religion. 


I'm an atheist bro.

Modifié par From Tuchanka with Love, 13 mai 2012 - 11:51 .

[NUM13ER]

Captain Noodle wrote...
I'll give you the fact that he's unique. The leader/controller of the Reapers? Holy crap! That could have been awesome.

It's just that he, and the last ten minutes, goes so far against themes, characters, lore, and logic that this effort is doomed to failure.

I agree. The idea of having a entity that created or even controlled/led the Reapers is interesting. I did expect to confront the source of the Reaper armada. I expected some inhumane diabolical machine. It's twisted logic matched only by it's horrific origin. Maybe he would even look like a keeper before they were turned into mindless slaves. The possiblities were there.

Then we got Space Child and his "flawless logic"....

Modifié par NUM13ER, 13 mai 2012 - 11:51 .

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

PPF65 wrote...

They have no artictis integrity though. Bioware stated that we wouldn't get an "A, B or C" ending, but gave us just that. How can you claim "artistic integrity" when you blatantly went against your own word? Failed artistic vision is failed.

You can't fail at being an artist. Art is interpretive. A million people may think your art is garbage, but that doesn't make it not art. Also, artistic integrity/vision is simply the direction of your art. Where you see your art ending. If you're satisfied in what you wanted to convey with your art, it's irrelevant what anyone else says. Art is not objective. However, the Catalyst is objective and so is the things he says.

An artist who creates things for money is different from one who starves to create things because he loves to.

Your lack of intellectual projection is matched only by your determination to achieve sophilistic pleasure from your posts.

[Captain Noodle]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You assume you know better than an omniscient being. Omniscient beings don't operate on fallible, emotional human morality, homeslice. This is why you guys didn't understand the ending.

I'm not religious.

I don't believe in such beings.

They don't make scientific sense.

>Implying that omniscient endings have anything to do with religion. 
I'm an atheist bro.

That.  Stop that.  Stop that right the hell now.

I'm from there as well, and it looks completely stupid. 

And again, what proof is there  that the Catalyst is omniscient?
 

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

[GDK]

Captain Noodle wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You assume you know better than an omniscient being. Omniscient beings don't operate on fallible, emotional human morality, homeslice. This is why you guys didn't understand the ending.

I'm not religious.

I don't believe in such beings.

They don't make scientific sense.

>Implying that omniscient endings have anything to do with religion. 
I'm an atheist bro.

That.  Stop that.  Stop that right the hell now.

I'm from there as well, and it looks completely stupid. 

And again, what proof is there  that the Catalyst is omniscient?
 

THIS! Please explain to my why he is omniscient.

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

You have been beaten and are showing your colors. You have begun to yell and swear. Any attempt at intellectual debate is now gone. The only thing you have left to calle me is a doody head. You regress to childlike behavior when you have been outargued. Do not start something you do not intend to finish.

[Ryoten]

Is this thread for real? I cant honestly fathom that someone likes the catalyst.

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Explain to me why he isn't. Not matching up with human morality is not a reason. So guess what? Genocide doesn't count. Genocide can be a necessary, especially looking in the eyes of a higher being who has much more at stake than a couple trillion individuals.

[NUM13ER]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...
You can't fail at being an artist. Art is interpretive. A million people may think your art is garbage, but that doesn't make it not art. 

I'm afraid I disagree. You can fail at art. In fact you can fail in a multitude of ways. Financially, cricitially and personally. And yes a million people thinking your art is worthless can't change the fact it's art. It also doesn't change the fact its considered bad art or at least inferior to other works.

[Nemesis_87]

i think il agree with Taboo on this 1

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

You have been beaten and are showing your colors. You have begun to yell and swear. Any attempt at intellectual debate is now gone. The only thing you have left to calle me is a doody head. You regress to childlike behavior when you have been outargued. Do not start something you do not intend to finish.

You couldn't out-debate my left ******, kid.

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Explain to me why he isn't. Not matching up with human morality is not a reason. So guess what? Genocide doesn't count. Genocide can be a necessary, especially looking in the eyes of a higher being who has much more at stake than a couple trillion individuals.

You present a fallacious argument. You are no different than someone who hunts for Bigfoot. Please continue.

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

You have been beaten and are showing your colors. You have begun to yell and swear. Any attempt at intellectual debate is now gone. The only thing you have left to calle me is a doody head. You regress to childlike behavior when you have been outargued. Do not start something you do not intend to finish.

You couldn't out-debate my left ******, kid.

I already have. Your pedantic ramblings have descended into crude humor. You have been beaten.

[Captain Noodle]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

You have been beaten and are showing your colors. You have begun to yell and swear. Any attempt at intellectual debate is now gone. The only thing you have left to calle me is a doody head. You regress to childlike behavior when you have been outargued. Do not start something you do not intend to finish.

You couldn't out-debate my left ******, kid.

Dude, you freaking called it.  He has now resorted to ad hominem attacks.  Congrats, you predicted the future.

[Nemesis_87]

Finish him!!!!

[GDK]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Explain to me why he isn't. Not matching up with human morality is not a reason. So guess what? Genocide doesn't count. Genocide can be a necessary, especially looking in the eyes of a higher being who has much more at stake than a couple trillion individuals.

You keep re-stating the same thing as if that what I was disagreeing with. I'm saying he isn't omniscient because if he was, his solution would be perfect. As he admits it ISN'T. 

[From Tuchanka with Love]

NUM13ER wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...
You can't fail at being an artist. Art is interpretive. A million people may think your art is garbage, but that doesn't make it not art. 

I'm afraid I disagree. You can fail at art. In fact you can fail in a multitude of ways. Financially, cricitially and personally. And yes a million people thinking your art is worthless can't change the fact it's art. It also doesn't change the fact its considered bad art or at least inferior to other works.

Popular opinion means nothing. Popular opinion is that some hippy walked on water, turned water into wine and came out of a chick who didn't get her vagoo spunked. Honestly, you expect me to believe because the majority of people think something that automatically makes it true. The majority believe a lot of incredibly idiotic things. The Catalyst being bad is no different, in my opinion.

[kalasaurus]

I approve of a Catalyst Support banner. The poor brat just didn't know how to play nicely with his toys. No one wants to be his friend :'(

Modifié par GlassElephant, 14 mai 2012 - 12:02 .

[Ryoten]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

PPF65 wrote...

They have no artictis integrity though. Bioware stated that we wouldn't get an "A, B or C" ending, but gave us just that. How can you claim "artistic integrity" when you blatantly went against your own word? Failed artistic vision is failed.

You can't fail at being an artist. Art is interpretive. A million people may think your art is garbage, but that doesn't make it not art. Also, artistic integrity/vision is simply the direction of your art. Where you see your art ending. If you're satisfied in what you wanted to convey with your art, it's irrelevant what anyone else says. Art is not objective. However, the Catalyst is objective and so is the things he says.

You CAN fail at being an artist.  It's what sets the mona lisa apart from a finger painting that a pre-schooler does.  Art is meant to be criticized and if it fails to deliver a message, its failed.  Thats why some art stands the test of time and others fall into obscurity. 

Modifié par Ryoten, 14 mai 2012 - 12:00 .

[GDK]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your use of words you don't understand doesn't make you right. It is a desperate attempt at trying to out-alpha me. Which is futile because I don't give a ****. **** about an artist making money all you want, what I said is still true. If I were BIoWare, no way would I go back on what I did just to make a bunch of people happy who are just going to complain anyway.

You have been beaten and are showing your colors. You have begun to yell and swear. Any attempt at intellectual debate is now gone. The only thing you have left to calle me is a doody head. You regress to childlike behavior when you have been outargued. Do not start something you do not intend to finish.

You couldn't out-debate my left ******, kid.

Well thanks for validating the exact point he was making. 

That's it everybody. Go home now.