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[From Tuchanka with Love]

Imperium Alpha wrote...



Niak Niak.

Thanks! Thanks for actually staying on topic. :3

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

No, no. The lemmings have to swim together because you share the same opinion. So you must bash anyone who disagrees with you. It's cool, I'll be Sasha Grey in your little Mass Effect gangbang. I really don't mind. I believe in my opinion as strongly as you believe in someone elses.

You again equate crude sexuality with an intellectual debate.

You devolve so quickly.

From the guy whose name litterally means a behavior that is either too sacred or too accursed for ordinary individuals to undertake. Sorta like a gangbang.

If you would like to discuss the merits of what is and what is not healthy sexual behavior I suggest you leave the BSN.

You are now insulting my username. You again keep proving that you are a textbook example of an argument devolution.

Boy you sure love that word. And you throw it around like, hm, and insult. Could it be that your masking your equally "devolutionary" ways with passive aggression? Possibly because you're afraid of some sort of reprecussion? Like banning or suspension? Oh golly gee! You don't want that. Then you couldn't discuss something you don't like all day.

I present it as a scientific fact. You are merely demonstrating a textbook example of someone who is losing an argument.

I do not believe resorting to such terms was necessary to out-debate you. You merely kept going. More than anything you did this to yourself.

[Shock n Awe]

"The Catalyst Deserves Artistic Integrity" could be used ironically by people who hate the ending (I totally would) and could be used seriously by people who liked the ending (I still don't understand how).

[ReXspec]

VibrantYacht wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

VibrantYacht wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

VibrantYacht wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

It's still art. And Mass Effect 3 is both art. And successful art. It doesn't matter what the fans say.

You mean... the target audience? It doesn't matter what the target audience says?... Is that what was just said?

 It doesn't matter what the non-casuals say. They aren't the target audience anymore.

I accept the point that casual fans are now the target audience (that being said, can't you understand why the former diehard fans are angry?). You don't think there are casual fans that are angry? Are you a casual fan? I'd argue not, as you are currently on the forum of the video game developers website. Why does your opinion matter if you are a non-casual?

Do I understand why the diehard fans are angry? They don't even understand why they're angry. There hasn't been ONE cohesive reason given. Everyone has their opinions and they're all different. No different than any other game.

... I'm not sure where you've been or how you can believe what your saying. The ending to ME3 has so many problems that a multiple new threads are created on a daily basis bringing more flaws to light. There can't be a cohesive reason given as it would be too long, though if you want one the common complaint is that the ending lacks what made the series great: player's choice effecting outcomes, the characters we've come to know and love, and a multitude of storytelling issues.

My personal statement on the first of those is: The ending should be a result of our choices, not a choice itself. When it is a choice by itself, all previous choices are nullified. The second one was summed up nicely in Mr.Btongue's video. BioWare doesn't seem to note the great importance of their characters. We care about them (some perhaps too much) and we don't know what happens to them. For all we know they could be trapped on a planet filled with thosuands of thresher maws or something to that effect. I know you'll say that it could be just as likely that they're on a paradise planet. That may be possible but the fact is we don't know, and I'd rather not leave it up to me to imagine what happens to them. We don't listen to stories to fill in spots that should be filled in for us. That's not because of audience stupidity, it's because that is what is expected of the author (though there are, of course, exceptions), and what has been expected for a very long time. Certainly in some cases, ambiguity works, but not here, not in a video game where our choices supposedly affect the outcome of everyone around us. It is surrounded by a mess of illogicity. Some questions repeatedly brought up are: How does shooting a tube destroy all sythetic life? How does jumping into a beam merge all organic and synthetic life? How does grabbing two handles give Shepard control of the Reapers? The catalyst claims that the citadel is part of himself then moments later claims he IS the citadel? Aren't those contradictory? Of the three options the catalyst presents, two of them are options that only villains (ultimately the reapers) have supported, yet the supposedly worst option is the one every single ally and squadmate supported. What up with that? That's a sampling of why people are frustrated. 

The people that are mad are fans who want the best for Mass Effect, this group eventually reached great heights of anger due to poor handling on the side of BioWare's PR team. I understand their silence now, but I didn't understand it at the beginning (please do not make this statement the focal point of your response). Anyway, I hope that provides, not only reasons fans are angry, but the view that not everyone who dislikes the endings wants to see BioWare crash and burn.

I don't mean to belittle your coherent argument, but you are arguing with a troll.  It may be wise to move on to the next thread.

[GDK]

ReXspec wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

No, no. The lemmings have to swim together because you share the same opinion. So you must bash anyone who disagrees with you. It's cool, I'll be Sasha Grey in your little Mass Effect gangbang. I really don't mind. I believe in my opinion as strongly as you believe in someone elses.

You again equate crude sexuality with an intellectual debate.

You devolve so quickly.

From the guy whose name litterally means a behavior that is either too sacred or too accursed for ordinary individuals to undertake. Sorta like a gangbang.

lol You are setting up for thread derailment, dude.  I highly suggest you quit while your ahead.  Preferrably by leaving BSN.

It's been dead for a while dude. 

Modifié par GDK, 14 mai 2012 - 01:02 .

[ReXspec]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

No, no. The lemmings have to swim together because you share the same opinion. So you must bash anyone who disagrees with you. It's cool, I'll be Sasha Grey in your little Mass Effect gangbang. I really don't mind. I believe in my opinion as strongly as you believe in someone elses.

You again equate crude sexuality with an intellectual debate.

You devolve so quickly.

From the guy whose name litterally means a behavior that is either too sacred or too accursed for ordinary individuals to undertake. Sorta like a gangbang.

If you would like to discuss the merits of what is and what is not healthy sexual behavior I suggest you leave the BSN.

You are now insulting my username. You again keep proving that you are a textbook example of an argument devolution.

Boy you sure love that word. And you throw it around like, hm, and insult. Could it be that you're masking your equally "devolutionary" ways with passive aggression? Possibly because you're afraid of some sort of reprecussion? Like banning or suspension? Oh golly gee! You don't want that. Then you couldn't discuss something you don't like all day.

Aww, that's cute.  You don't know what devolutionary means!  Are you gonna look it up on dictionary.com now to maintain what little argumentative coherency you obviously lack?

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Oh yeah, that argument too. I love how anyone who likes the ending is considered a troll. 

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Oh yeah, that argument too. I love how anyone who likes the ending is considered a troll. 

You keep saying things and making yourself look foolish.

The devolution continues.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 14 mai 2012 - 01:02 .

[ReXspec]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Oh yeah, that argument too. I love how anyone who likes the ending is considered a troll. 

You are adorable.  Making sweeping generalizations and the whole bit!  If you keep trying, you might grow up to be a big troll one day.

[From Tuchanka with Love]

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

[ReXspec]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

And now he is using slang.  Excellent work!  All you have to do if formulate an intelligent argument, and you'll be well on your way!

[Captain Noodle]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Homeskillet?  I didn't know we were back in the 90's.

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

[EricHVela]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Pot and kettle.

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

Oh I get it. You're flirting with me. That's flattering, but I only like big, burly black guys.

[ReXspec]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

OP has left the thread.  Sorry, Tabboo. 

[GDK]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

This... this is incredible...

I just can't stop watching you. You continue to one-up yourself.

[ReXspec]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

Oh I get it. You're flirting with me. That's flattering, but I only like big, burly black guys.

  A wild OP post appears!  You are still here?

[Taboo]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

Oh I get it. You're flirting with me. That's flattering, but I only like big, burly black guys.

Deflection.

You merely keep presenting data.

[His Name was HYR!!]

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I don't mind the principle of an AI controlling/managing the Reapers. But I want to talk to it. It want to learn more about it and the Reapers and why it is doing what it is doing. Where it came from. Unfortunately, Bioware was lazy (used the "Lots of speculation!" cop out) and had a completely one-note, scripted conversation with it. I want to be able to tell the Catalyst that its logic and "beliefs" are crap. There should have been some charm/intimidate options there.

This. And, it should not be that ugly little boy with the girl voice.

[Warden130]

Imperium Alpha wrote...



Niak Niak.

I'm Warden130 and this is my new favourite banner on BSN. I hope you don't mind me useing it, cause im going to either way.

Modifié par Warden130, 14 mai 2012 - 01:13 .

[GDK]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

You keep repeating yourself. Expecting something to change. That's the definition of insanity, homeskillet.

Repetion is a necessitation. At this point I'm merely participating at this thread to collect data. You continue to fascinate me. Intriguing.

Oh I get it. You're flirting with me. That's flattering, but I only like big, burly black guys.

Ok. Nail in the coffin time. 

Sorry Taboo. I'm killing this thread. Thanks for being logical.