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But why it crashes when trying to load that save? The ending conversation between the anoying kid and the grandpa is always the same whatever you do in the game and what ending you choose, so there's no different variables at this point.

Modifié par Dantexr3, 14 mai 2012 - 01:06 .


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Dantexr3 wrote...

But why it crashes when trying to load that save? The ensing conversation between the anoying kid and the grandpa is always the same whatever you do in the game and what ending you choose, so there's no different variables at this point.


The conversation is a prerendered movie and no ingame cutscene.

Modifié par Bfler, 14 mai 2012 - 12:47 .


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WE_Belisarius wrote...

Some very interesting points in this thread and I still don´t know what to believe.
Did we get the right and only ending, or did BioWare shipped an unfinished game? Both side have good and plausible points...

Anyway, here is my Legend Save. It is from my secon playthrought, first I picked Synthesis, because this time I saved the geth, but it was so awfull, I reload and choose destroy, but I don´t think it overwrite the save file.
http://speedy.sh/PhA...egendSave.pcsav


"I can't tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc... But
within that context, given the terms there's a bit of a different.. the
way that we're structuring the story is pretty different.. So it will
make a good sense why the dlc plugs in to where it does." Said by BW at 2011,so answer is yes they sold us uncomplete game :) 

Im completing game with my perfect save ,so ill upload legend save when im finished ;)

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TSA_383 wrote...

I think this is a fascinating idea, because, if you're going to throw in a plot twist that makes certain choices negative, the problem is that the majority of players will go back and make a different choice.

If the EC forces people to live with the consequences of their decisions....well...wow.
That's another thing that's not really been done before.

Does anyone have multiple LegendSave files from different characters? I'm assuming it's possible to do one per career...


Man if that's what ends up happening: ****. ****ing. ****. *bows to Bioware*

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Can anyone clarify what save the "Import ME3 character" uses?

Modifié par Iwillbeback, 14 mai 2012 - 01:06 .


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Bounercz wrote...
"I can't tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc...


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Is that quote legit???

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Iwillbeback wrote...

Can anyone clarify what save the "Import ME3 character" uses?


NewGamePlus.sav, its different from legendsave.

Modifié par pirate1802, 14 mai 2012 - 01:09 .


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Bfler wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

But why it crashes when trying to load that save? The ensing conversation between the anoying kid and the grandpa is always the same whatever you do in the game and what ending you choose, so there's no different variables at this point.


The conversation is a prerendered movie and no ingame cutscene.


That's why it makes no sense by crashing.

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hmm intresting, will need to check this out for myself.

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pirate1802 wrote...

Bounercz wrote...
"I can't tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc...


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Is that quote legit???


No, it's not. If you watch the video he clearly says "I can tell you the ending will be on the disc"

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pirate1802 wrote...

Bounercz wrote...
"I can't tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc...


Image IPB

Is that quote legit???


There was a big debate about it:
http://social.biowar.../index/11940879

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Elyiia wrote...

No, it's not. If you watch the video he clearly says "I can tell you the ending will be on the disc"


Clearly? theres noice but i  think he said i cant or can that doesnt matter  , next sentence ,but that context will speak for itself for future DLC explains everything i think :) ...but stop OT theres thread about this i think :) .


Any new info about legendsave flags? :)

Modifié par Bounercz, 14 mai 2012 - 01:46 .


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Bounercz wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

No, it's not. If you watch the video he clearly says "I can tell you the ending will be on the disc"


Clearly? theres noice but i  think he said i cant or can that doesnt matter  , next sentence ,but that context will speak for itself for future DLC explains everything i think :) ...but stop OT theres thread about this i think :) .


Any new info about legendsave flags? :)



Not yet, without being able to have legendsaves with the game "the same" up until just before the ending, it's difficult to see which variables are which, since almost every conversation you have changes something...

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WE_Belisarius

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TSA_383 wrote...

WE_Belisarius wrote...

Some very interesting points in this thread and I still don´t know what to believe.
Did we get the right and only ending, or did BioWare shipped an unfinished game? Both side have good and plausible points...

Anyway, here is my Legend Save. It is from my secon playthrought, first I picked Synthesis, because this time I saved the geth, but it was so awfull, I reload and choose destroy, but I don´t think it overwrite the save file.
http://speedy.sh/PhA...egendSave.pcsav

I take it then that you won't be very happy if the EC forces you to go with the consequences of your initial decision? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

Well, since it is only my second character and my main Sheaprd choosed Destroy right away, I can live with that :D
I just wanted to experience BioWare´s canon ending, atleast some twitter post indicate that it is to be considered by some employees as the best ending, for myself.

Bounercz wrote...

WE_Belisarius wrote...
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"I can't tell you that the end of the story will be on the disc... But
within that context, given the terms there's a bit of a different.. the
way that we're structuring the story is pretty different.. So it will
make a good sense why the dlc plugs in to where it does." Said by BW at 2011,so answer is yes they sold us uncomplete game :) 

Im completing game with my perfect save ,so ill upload legend save when im finished ;)


Well, sadly BioWare sad alot of thinks and proofe themselves wrong later. They have lost my trust and I don´t want my hopes crushed again, so I will patiently wait for the EC. My expactations are pretty low right now, but who knows, maybe they can surprise us all and fix this mess somehow. IT has some good evidence ^_^

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It might have been for a "just in case" thing that may or may not ever be used.

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BDelacroix wrote...

It might have been for a "just in case" thing that may or may not ever be used.

I very much doubt that.

Have also confirmed with a few people that the only way to get the thing to overwrite is to start again from a NewGame+, and even then both careers have seperate legendsave files.

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This is still a very interesting phenomenon.

Interesting.

Perhaps someone might ask on Twitter or something?

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soulprovider wrote...

arial wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I would assume it's for the EC.........

I can't understand why anything would be for pre-ending DLC.

It's too early for a new game planning......

Which is interesting, because it's from before the EC was ever announced ;)


Interesting.

Hudson has stated that there will be no games after 3, only prequels.

Perhaps it will use your save data to determine content in the pre-ending DLC? I don't know.



Source? I remember them saying it was "the end of Shepards story, but not the end of the ME universe", but i never remember them saying none shall take place after


walters said it, Hudson wants to do an MMO

see the link in my signature., it tells all.


MMO... :sick:

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TSA_383 wrote...

Bounercz wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

No, it's not. If you watch the video he clearly says "I can tell you the ending will be on the disc"


Clearly? theres noice but i  think he said i cant or can that doesnt matter  , next sentence ,but that context will speak for itself for future DLC explains everything i think :) ...but stop OT theres thread about this i think :) .


Any new info about legendsave flags? :)



Not yet, without being able to have legendsaves with the game "the same" up until just before the ending, it's difficult to see which variables are which, since almost every conversation you have changes something...


I'll PM you and we can talk, I'm willing to send you my save. 

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Wowky wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I think this is a fascinating idea, because, if you're going to throw in a plot twist that makes certain choices negative, the problem is that the majority of players will go back and make a different choice.

If the EC forces people to live with the consequences of their decisions....well...wow.
That's another thing that's not really been done before.

Does anyone have multiple LegendSave files from different characters? I'm assuming it's possible to do one per career...


Man if that's what ends up happening: ****. ****ing. ****. *bows to Bioware*



This is exactly what I've been saying since the inception of the IT and the annoumcement of EC


I don't understand why so many people think that IT implies that Destroy is the only correct ending and the other two are you failing indoc....there's no way for people to know what comes next if indoc theory is true, so idk where they got the "IT says there one correct ending" idea


That's never the way I've interpreted the IT.....I just thought of the Breathe Scene as Canon for every ending(but its an Easter egg and only shown in the Destroy ending because the stipulation to seeing it is sticking to your gunsand having high EMS)....sorta like seeing the extended "Canon" ending in Halo3 when the only way to see it is beating the hardest difficulty


If the IT is true, I always figured they'd release the DLC, Shepard wakes up no matter what you chose.....and then you go on to finish the fight but the Choice you made will somehow factor into the true ending......

All of this is only my interpretation of the IT....I hope the EC proves the IT true, but I highly doubt it.....in which case we'll have to take the endings at face value, and when you do that, they are ultimately awful....

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TSA_383 wrote...
Not yet, without being able to have legendsaves with the game "the same" up until just before the ending, it's difficult to see which variables are which, since almost every conversation you have changes something...


Can't you just:

1) Play the game up to the point in question.

2) Make a Saved Game, and make a copy of "legendsaves" at the same time.

3) Play the ending one way and again, make another saved copy of "legendsaves" (i.e. legendsaves.red, green, or blue).

4) Revert back to saved game and copy of this file made in step #2.

5) Repeat for each desired ending?

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TSA_383 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

It might have been for a "just in case" thing that may or may not ever be used.

I very much doubt that.

Why?

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Fair warning: This might fall under "reverse engineering", something that they officially frown at (and have done nothing about in the past).

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ReggarBlane wrote...

Fair warning: This might fall under "reverse engineering", something that they officially frown at (and have done nothing about in the past).


Most of the time when you see that it is ment as you can't reverse engineer for the purpose of creation. He is just analyzing data to see what it's purpose is and won't be making a product from the informationed gathered.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Hudson has stated that there will be no games after 3, only prequels.


Can you link me to this?