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[dreman9999]

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

They would never use the same plant twice in a game! Totally unheard of! You must be right!

All of Mass Effect 3 was a dream. Happy now?

Where else have you seen these plant? And why are the called dreamplants in the code?

The planet is a symbol that life will begin anew in the new galaxy after the end of the Reaper War. The devs have said this themselves. All this shows is that you don't have to take what happened on the planet literlly; it is a symbol.

1. Link.
2.Why is it called dream plant?

1. I am not scouring thousands of Twitter posts. But the symbolism is pretty obvious. Why would they choose such a lush green planet, instead of say, a desert?

2. Because the player is supposed to take it as symbolism.

Why isn't my interepretation as valid as IT?

1. Why would you even think anyone will beleive that bull with out proof.
2.Why is it not called hope plants then?

[Deemz]

Deemz wrote...

ArthurVon wrote...

Too small pictures bro, cant read them.

They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet

Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?

[Swimming Ferret]

dreman9999 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!

Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?

It's called dream planets....Why? 

'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Hey Mr "I'll make ANOTHER new thread that proves absolutely nothing other than I should be banned from making new thread"...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

So,your point?

It wasn't planned.

That doesn't make that clearin that statement. If it's planned they would not say any reflecting to it being planned.

"This is in addition to our existing plan." = Not planned.

If itwas planned , they would never tell us.

Modifié par dreman9999, 14 mai 2012 - 08:01 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!

Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?

It's called dream planets....Why? 

'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.

perhaps Bioware first made the plants for the dream sequences, then when they made the ending they reused the foilage because it looked nice.

Just a possibility.

[Rip504]

You are also in a forest during your dreams. As another pointed out.

[dreman9999]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!

Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?

It's called dream planets....Why? 

'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.

Agein...what other place do you see these plants?

[AlexMBrennan]

You're right - all of the DA2 levels are totally unique, too! Any claims that DA2 is a cave simulator are totally unfounded, btw.

Agein...what other place do you see these plants?

Presumably, the *dream* sequences, duh. If not, they were probably intended to be used in that scene but cut. You know, the bit with the burning kid? Try actually playing the game, they're kinda hard to miss.

Ultimately, it's Occam's razor - do I believe a common sense explanations (Bioware devs, like everybody else on the planet, reuse code and art assets) or some contrived conspiracy theory (IT).

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 14 mai 2012 - 08:02 .

[dunre646]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

IT is like any other conspiracy theory. To a believer, everything and anything is evidence to support it.

Remember this the next time someone says an alien kidnapped and probed them last night then the government covered it all up and you laugh at them.

so conspiracy theories are like religions then?

what makes you so sure the IT isn't true?

[111987]

dreman9999 wrote...

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

They would never use the same plant twice in a game! Totally unheard of! You must be right!

All of Mass Effect 3 was a dream. Happy now?

Where else have you seen these plant? And why are the called dreamplants in the code?

The planet is a symbol that life will begin anew in the new galaxy after the end of the Reaper War. The devs have said this themselves. All this shows is that you don't have to take what happened on the planet literlly; it is a symbol.

1. Link.
2.Why is it called dream plant?

1. I am not scouring thousands of Twitter posts. But the symbolism is pretty obvious. Why would they choose such a lush green planet, instead of say, a desert?

2. Because the player is supposed to take it as symbolism.

Why isn't my interepretation as valid as IT?

1. Why would you even think anyone will beleive that bull with out proof.

Interesting question...

Modifié par 111987, 14 mai 2012 - 08:03 .

[dreman9999]

Rip504 wrote...

You are also in a forest during your dreams. As another pointed out.

But these plants are not in the dreams.

[The Invisible Commando]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!

Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?

It's called dream planets....Why? 

'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.

He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Hey Mr "I'll make ANOTHER new thread that proves absolutely nothing other than I should be banned from making new thread"...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

So,your point?

It wasn't planned.

That doesn't make that clearin that statement. If it's planned they would not say any reflecting to it being planned.

"This is in addition to our existing plan." = Not planned.

If itwas planned , they would never ell us.

- Sell an incomplete game
- Lie to the fanbase about it
- ????
-PROFIT!


Your scenario makes Bioware even more useless than if they meant for the endings to be taken literally.

[Thaa_solon]

so it has come to this........

[dreman9999]

Deemz wrote...

Deemz wrote...

ArthurVon wrote...

Too small pictures bro, cant read them.

They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet

Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?

It's not in the dreams

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Hey Mr "I'll make ANOTHER new thread that proves absolutely nothing other than I should be banned from making new thread"...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

So,your point?

It wasn't planned.

That doesn't make that clearin that statement. If it's planned they would not say any reflecting to it being planned.

"This is in addition to our existing plan." = Not planned.

If itwas planned , they would never ell us.

- Sell an incomplete game
- Lie to the fanbase about it
- ????
-PROFIT!


Your scenario makes Bioware even more useless than if they meant for the endings to be taken literally.

Looking at the ME ending and the fact they wanted more time but did not get it...

[balance5050]

dreman9999 wrote...

Deemz wrote...

Deemz wrote...

ArthurVon wrote...

Too small pictures bro, cant read them.

They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet

Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?

It's not in the dreams

Cmon Dreman, yes they are.

[jijeebo]

Thaa_solon wrote...

so it has come to this........

Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof

Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing



It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[aternak]

dreman9999 wrote...

Deemz wrote...

Deemz wrote...

ArthurVon wrote...

Too small pictures bro, cant read them.

They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet

Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?

It's not in the dreams

They are all over the ground in the dream sequences. What the hell?

[M Hedonist]

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

111987 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

They would never use the same plant twice in a game! Totally unheard of! You must be right!

All of Mass Effect 3 was a dream. Happy now?

Where else have you seen these plant? And why are the called dreamplants in the code?

The planet is a symbol that life will begin anew in the new galaxy after the end of the Reaper War. The devs have said this themselves. All this shows is that you don't have to take what happened on the planet literlly; it is a symbol.

1. Link.
2.Why is it called dream plant?

1. I am not scouring thousands of Twitter posts. But the symbolism is pretty obvious. Why would they choose such a lush green planet, instead of say, a desert?

2. Because the player is supposed to take it as symbolism.

Why isn't my interepretation as valid as IT?

To be honest, I personally reject it and find the idea of it somewhat disgusting. IT at least has some kind of relevance to what's actually happening, but if it's supposed to be 'symbolic' it would have no relevance and provide no closure whatsoever. No, as long as I have even a little bit of trust in Bioware I refuse to believe that. I'd rather believe that it's just a product of extremely bad writing and rushed development.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

- Sell an incomplete game
- Lie to the fanbase about it
- ????
-PROFIT!


Your scenario makes Bioware even more useless than if they meant for the endings to be taken literally.

Looking at the ME ending and the fact they wanted more time but did not get it...

Either they would've put it in the game, or they would've added it later. Either way it doesn't fall into the category of "additional plans" post-release... Does it?

Modifié par jijeebo, 14 mai 2012 - 08:06 .

[dreman9999]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

You're right - all of the DA2 levels are totally unique, too! Any claims that DA2 is a cave simulator are totally unfounded, btw.

Agein...what other place do you see these plants?

Presumably, the *dream* sequences, duh. If not, they were probably intended to be used in that scene but cut. You know, the bit with the burning kid? Try actually playing the game, they're kinda hard to miss.

Ultimately, it's Occam's razor - do I believe a common sense explanations (Bioware devs, like everybody else on the planet, reuse code and art assets) or some contrived conspiracy theory (IT).

You not understanding the name of the code is to makesure it's correctly placed. They would rename it if they were using it somewhere else not keep the same name of the previous planned location on it...

[Swimming Ferret]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!

Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?

It's called dream planets....Why? 

'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.

He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.

Hurrm, I wonder what was up.

Towards OP;

Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?

[dunre646]

jijeebo wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

so it has come to this........

Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof

Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing



It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

if the IT is true, then he can't say anything to confirm or deny it before the announcement

[dreman9999]

aternak wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Deemz wrote...

Deemz wrote...

ArthurVon wrote...

Too small pictures bro, cant read them.

They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet

Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?

It's not in the dreams

They are all over the ground in the dream sequences. What the hell?

But bw are lazy devs. They would use the same blipmaps overandover again. /sarcasum