dunre646 wrote...
if the IT is true, then he can't say anything to confirm or deny it before the announcementjijeebo wrote...
Thaa_solon wrote...
so it has come to this........
Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof
Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
dreman9999 wrote...
You not understanding the name of the code is to makesure it's correctly placed. They would rename it if they were using it somewhere else not keep the same name of the previous planned location on it...AlexMBrennan wrote...
You're right - all of the DA2 levels are totally unique, too! Any claims that DA2 is a cave simulator are totally unfounded, btw.Presumably, the *dream* sequences, duh. If not, they were probably intended to be used in that scene but cut. You know, the bit with the burning kid? Try actually playing the game, they're kinda hard to miss.Agein...what other place do you see these plants?
Ultimately, it's Occam's razor - do I believe a common sense explanations (Bioware devs, like everybody else on the planet, reuse code and art assets) or some contrived conspiracy theory (IT).
:lol:
What proves that it's really happening. No one talks and it can be Shepards dream.Swimming Ferret wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's called dream planets....Why?Swimming Ferret wrote...
Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!
Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?
'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.
He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.
Hurrm, I wonder what was up.
Towards OP;
Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?
So you havn't heard of organization?Rip504 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
You not understanding the name of the code is to makesure it's correctly placed. They would rename it if they were using it somewhere else not keep the same name of the previous planned location on it...AlexMBrennan wrote...
You're right - all of the DA2 levels are totally unique, too! Any claims that DA2 is a cave simulator are totally unfounded, btw.Presumably, the *dream* sequences, duh. If not, they were probably intended to be used in that scene but cut. You know, the bit with the burning kid? Try actually playing the game, they're kinda hard to miss.Agein...what other place do you see these plants?
Ultimately, it's Occam's razor - do I believe a common sense explanations (Bioware devs, like everybody else on the planet, reuse code and art assets) or some contrived conspiracy theory (IT).
dunre646 wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
IT is like any other conspiracy theory. To a believer, everything and anything is evidence to support it.
Remember this the next time someone says an alien kidnapped and probed them last night then the government covered it all up and you laugh at them.
so conspiracy theories are like religions then?
what makes you so sure the IT isn't true?
dreman9999 wrote...
But bw are lazy devs. They would use the same blipmaps overandover again. /sarcasumaternak wrote...
They are all over the ground in the dream sequences. What the hell?dreman9999 wrote...
It's not in the dreamsDeemz wrote...
Deemz wrote...
ArthurVon wrote...
Too small pictures bro, cant read them.
They are of some game assets with names like dream_plant that were used in the joker crashed planet
Possible those plants were also used in the dream sequences of Shepard chasing the vent rat?
In a sense, yes. Religions have the same amount of circular logic (Bible is God's word, therefore it's true, therefore it's God's word...) and utterly ignore any facts that conflict with their believes.dunre646 wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
IT is like any other conspiracy theory. To a believer, everything and anything is evidence to support it.
Remember this the next time someone says an alien kidnapped and probed them last night then the government covered it all up and you laugh at them.
so conspiracy theories are like religions then?
what makes you so sure the IT isn't true?
That's your argument? Really? *Everyone* is using hard-coded path references all the time, so presumably Bioware devs are just as bad, which means that they'd have to change that everywhere - much, much easier to just keep the old name.You not understanding the name of the code is to makesure it's correctly placed. They would rename it if they were using it somewhere else not keep the same name of the previous planned location on it...
Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 14 mai 2012 - 08:16 .
Well base on what wasoriginally planned. I would say the decision cameup when they didn't get more time.jijeebo wrote...
dunre646 wrote...
if the IT is true, then he can't say anything to confirm or deny it before the announcementjijeebo wrote...
Thaa_solon wrote...
so it has come to this........
Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof
Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
So he made the decision to lie to everyone for no reason other than to cover up an ending we won't be seeing for months... Yet was somehow planned?
But their is you problem, they is very little the counters or goes ageints IT. The thing used to counter IT are more of an assumption then the factssupporting the theory.AlexMBrennan wrote...
In a sense, yes. Religions have the same amount of circular logic (Bible is God's word, therefore it's true, therefore it's God's word...) and utterly ignore any facts that conflict with their believes.dunre646 wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
IT is like any other conspiracy theory. To a believer, everything and anything is evidence to support it.
Remember this the next time someone says an alien kidnapped and probed them last night then the government covered it all up and you laugh at them.
so conspiracy theories are like religions then?
what makes you so sure the IT isn't true?
You keep listing lots and lots of pieces of information which might point to IT whilst ignoring the vastly greater amount of information that conflicts with it. Regardless of whether it's like a religion, it's bad science.
At the end of the day, ask yourself this: What's the chance of observing X (art asset named "dream_plant" being used in a scene") if IT wasn't true? If you don't see why you need to do this, read this pr GTFO[/url]
dreman9999 wrote...
Well base on what wasoriginally planned. I would say the decision cameup when they didn't get more time.jijeebo wrote...
dunre646 wrote...
if the IT is true, then he can't say anything to confirm or deny it before the announcementjijeebo wrote...
Thaa_solon wrote...
so it has come to this........
Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof
Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
So he made the decision to lie to everyone for no reason other than to cover up an ending we won't be seeing for months... Yet was somehow planned?
Modifié par jijeebo, 14 mai 2012 - 08:15 .
dreman9999 wrote...
What proves that it's really happening. No one talks and it can be Shepards dream.Swimming Ferret wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's called dream planets....Why?Swimming Ferret wrote...
Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!
Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?
'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.
He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.
Hurrm, I wonder what was up.
Towards OP;
Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?
Modifié par Swimming Ferret, 14 mai 2012 - 08:15 .
Don't worry...This is just a test. I just wanted to see what they would say to countor these images.EsterCloat wrote...
dreman, don't take this the wrong way but you're starting to sound a little desperate in these threads you make. You don't need to so fervently protect this theory; it's not like it'll collapse if you don't repeatedly bring it up and defend it.
Guest_Arcian_*
Denial: The Motion Picture, starring IDT fans.EsterCloat wrote...
dreman, don't take this the wrong way but you're starting to sound a little desperate in these threads you make. You don't need to so fervently protect this theory; it's not like it'll collapse if you don't repeatedly bring it up and defend it.
Fun fact...There 3 theories for IT.Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
What proves that it's really happening. No one talks and it can be Shepards dream.Swimming Ferret wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's called dream planets....Why?Swimming Ferret wrote...
Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!
Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?
'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.
He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.
Hurrm, I wonder what was up.
Towards OP;
Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?
Why the hell would Shepard hallucinate of the Normandy when, you know, Reapers are eating London? My Renegade Shepard would kill them all if she found out they fled battle, not dream of them on some cliche paradise world where Garrus and Tali would die in a month.
Come on, IT supporters, throw me some bacon!
Modifié par Rip504, 14 mai 2012 - 08:21 .
dreman9999 wrote...
Fun fact...There 3 theories for IT.Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
What proves that it's really happening. No one talks and it can be Shepards dream.Swimming Ferret wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's called dream planets....Why?Swimming Ferret wrote...
Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!
Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?
'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.
He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.
Hurrm, I wonder what was up.
Towards OP;
Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?
Why the hell would Shepard hallucinate of the Normandy when, you know, Reapers are eating London? My Renegade Shepard would kill them all if she found out they fled battle, not dream of them on some cliche paradise world where Garrus and Tali would die in a month.
Come on, IT supporters, throw me some bacon!
not really the answer i was looking for. there is enough evidence supporting IT that it merits to be addressed. what is it that makes you believe it can't be true?The Invisible Commando wrote...
dunre646 wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
IT is like any other conspiracy theory. To a believer, everything and anything is evidence to support it.
Remember this the next time someone says an alien kidnapped and probed them last night then the government covered it all up and you laugh at them.
so conspiracy theories are like religions then?
what makes you so sure the IT isn't true?
Everything can be beieved or not. If you must grasp at every straw for evidence, then your proof is weak. Some developer labeled a plant 'dreamplant' and now thats a knockout punch? No.
Rip504 wrote...
If IT is a HUGE,BIG, Secret to trick us at the end of the game,why fail epically and name a plant the dream plant?
Devs know Gamers look at the game files,as you are posting it on their forums as has been done countless times before. Not to mention mods etc.
I would say this helps discredit the IT.
Because they knew there will be people who won't take it as proof, anyway?Rip504 wrote...
If IT is a HUGE,BIG, Secret to trick us at the end of the game,why fail epically and name a plant the dream plant?
What does that even mean?But their is you problem, they is very little the counters or goes ageints IT. The thing used to counter IT are more of an assumption then the factssupporting the theory.
Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 14 mai 2012 - 08:25 .
The Invisible Commando wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Fun fact...There 3 theories for IT.Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
What proves that it's really happening. No one talks and it can be Shepards dream.Swimming Ferret wrote...
The Invisible Commando wrote...
Swimming Ferret wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's called dream planets....Why?Swimming Ferret wrote...
Omfg! Like Bioware hasn't reused enviroments before! *coughME1coughDA2cough* Obviously proof that The Indocrination Theory is legit! Quick, Starchild, get in the van!
Also, Anti Indoctonation Theorys? That's what we are called nowdays...?
'Cause Bioware is lazy and reused the same material.
He can't see it that way because hes indoctrinated. He is immune to your logic.
Hurrm, I wonder what was up.
Towards OP;
Since the 'dream plants' are with Joker, doesn't that mean he and the entire Normandy crew are totally Indoctrinated, even EDI, since they see these mystical plants, because Shepard is dead by then?
Why the hell would Shepard hallucinate of the Normandy when, you know, Reapers are eating London? My Renegade Shepard would kill them all if she found out they fled battle, not dream of them on some cliche paradise world where Garrus and Tali would die in a month.
Come on, IT supporters, throw me some bacon!
Funner fact. Needing more then one theory without being able to properly test any of them means you are proving it is all guesswork.
Man and here I thought my Garbear romance was real...
do you understand how business works? do you think that if you interviewed the ceo of apple you would get the new iphone details out of him before the planned announcement?jijeebo wrote...
dunre646 wrote...
if the IT is true, then he can't say anything to confirm or deny it before the announcementjijeebo wrote...
Thaa_solon wrote...
so it has come to this........
Dream_Foliage = 100% legit proof
Official statement from Bioware Co-Founder = He's lieing
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
So he made the decision to lie to everyone for no reason other than to cover up an ending we won't be seeing for months... Yet was somehow planned?
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