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[Korva]

To be precise, by what happens when you were in a relationship with her and did your duty by striking the killing blow (which to me and my character was the only acceptable course of action).

"Leliana remained in the royal court for a time, mourning. She poured her heart into a ballad that would eventually become known throughout Thedas. But after one performance, Leliana quietly vanished. Some say that the Maker came to her in a vision again that night. Smiling, tears in her eyes, she told a maid  that she would see her love again at last."

This sounds like she goes off to commit suicide, which I find disturbing. Poor Leliana. My warrior would be spinning in her grave if she knew that her former lover went suicidal because of her ... I suppose this does not happen if you "harden" her (which would've been totally OOC for my warrior), so what does she do then? I heard in some cases she goes back to Orlais.

[Original182]

Darn that's intense. Yeah seems like suicide. How else would she meet you?

Unless she meant Marjolaine, though that seems very unlikely.

[Antikristine]

It sounds like suicide indeed, but it's a beautiful, tragic ending though.



And it is much more satisfying than the ending you'll have if you romance Alistair, makes him king, and takes the killing blow. In that case, the ending doesn't mention that he mourns the loss of you.

[Lughsan35]

Ooooor it could be a Miracle of the Maker, having seen how strident, true and overwhelming pure her love was the Maker appeared to her in a vision and she Ascended to heaven without having to go through death at all...



Mmm Ascension is soo cool.

[voidcommander9111980]

wait wait guys you confuzing me ....



in my first ending i make leliana my girl and we live happily everafter



and i kill the stupid mojalaine biatch



I dont see no bad end hmm ....

[Original182]

Did you sacrifice yourself to kill the archdemon in your game?

[Varenus Luckmann]

That shouldn't happen if you harden her, because she drops the whole Maker deal, then. Anyone that hardened her and then died killing the Archdemon that could quote us the Hardened Leliana epilogue?

[Badpie]

Yup. Sounds like sucide to me. Sheesh.

[YR_Lim]

Suicide...very disturbing indeed, but not surprising since all her choices and decisions are base on delusions that the "maker told me to"... tragedy + umm (maker?) = snap her like a twig.

[Andronic0s]

I just took it to mean that the vision just told her that my character was indeed waiting for her in the afterlife (or whatever is called in the game), alternatively it could mean that she was struck by an incurable desease like cancer or somesuch, it doesnt neccessarily means she will commit suicide

[EricHVela]

Actually, the Maker told her that the hero is returning in the sequel.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 09 décembre 2009 - 03:20 .

[Midnight Reyn]

I prefer not to think of it as a veiled suicide reference, but rather read it as 'loophole to bring your dead character back as part of an expansion pack/future campaign'



I just don't see Leliana killing herself as being very 'in character' for her.

[Vansen Elamber]

In both my playthroughs so far she has gone to the Sacred Urn to be its protector or something like that, the only variation to that was in the first playthrough I forgot to go back later and take out the High Dragon so I think it said the dragon destroyed the Urn, temple, the whole area and it was lost to Ferelden. So maybe Leliana was killed there cause she had still gone there in her epilogue.

[PsychoMunkys]

even if you don't have a relaetenshop whit her you stil get that epiologe



i that it meant she got a vision over how to resurect me from the dead, that the maker would give me a second change for saving the world

[Curlain]

Midnight Reyn wrote...

I prefer not to think of it as a veiled suicide reference, but rather read it as 'loophole to bring your dead character back as part of an expansion pack/future campaign'

I just don't see Leliana killing herself as being very 'in character' for her.

I hope not, I'd rather not see D&D style ressurections becoming a norm in the DA universe, so it's likely it is a suicide reference (personally in the right situation I could see Leliana doing it, but that's my take)

[Varenus Luckmann]

Midnight Reyn wrote...
I prefer not to think of it as a veiled suicide reference, but rather read it as 'loophole to bring your dead character back as part of an expansion pack/future campaign'

I just don't see Leliana killing herself as being very 'in character' for her.

Wait, what? Suicide-over-lost-love is so far up unhardened Leliana's alley it's not even funny.

[Midnight Reyn]

Curlain wrote...

I hope not, I'd rather not see D&D style ressurections becoming a norm in the DA universe, so it's likely it is a suicide reference (personally in the right situation I could see Leliana doing it, but that's my take)

I'm probably too invested in my characters (which is why I find it difficult to choose the sacrifice option) so I want to see more adventuring with them. But I agree that any potential resurrection style rebirth like  'oh, hey look - your character was ressurected by the Maker' would not sit well with those who did choose the sacrific option, as it cheapens the choice and lessens the impact of the ending.

However, I also like Leliana as a character, and to me, at least, it would be a shame if her involvement in the DA universe also ended at the end of DAO.

Modifié par Midnight Reyn, 09 décembre 2009 - 03:59 .

[Fishy]

PsychoMunkys wrote...

even if you don't have a relationship whit her you stil get that epiologe

i that it meant she got a vision over how to resurect me from the dead, that the maker would give me a second change for saving the world

False..
It's just say that she wrote a ballad and only singed it once .. Than she dissapeared without showing any trace.

But If you Date Morrigan and not lelianna .. She fall in love with your character anyway .She respect your choice but it's clear she love the PC .. She told my pc that she love him .. but that never went further..Than at the end she tell my pc that she hope nothing would happens to me .. Than she's like ... Hesitating.

I ... I ....

So cute.

[ToJKa1]

Yeah, that is sad, especially since it's stated that the sacrifice destroys both the Archdemons and the Grey Warden's souls, which means that all that remains of Leliana's loved one are his/hers earthly remains. Her heaven might be more like hell..

[marshalleck]

This is what happens when one vainly pursues personal glory: you end up hurting the ones you love.



Be less selfish next time and do the ritual.

[Midnight Reyn]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Wait, what? Suicide-over-lost-love is so far up unhardened Leliana's alley it's not even funny.

I guess it's just personal opinion. For me - Leliana committing suicide simply didn't suit her character the way I saw her. I can certainly see her being absolutely crushed by her lover's death, and spending time alone to mourn him/her. But killing herself? I can't see that. 

Perhaps i'm just in denial.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ouch, poor girl.

Or maybe the Maker decided to take another bride, you never know.

[Nialos]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ouch, poor girl.
Or maybe the Maker decided to take another bride, you never know.

Well. At least he's connecting with his people... right?

[ToJKa1]

It is a bittersweet ending, on the other hand it is beautiful that her love would be so deep, but that she would kill her self in vain is terrible

[marshalleck]

It's always tragic when idealists are served a cold dish of reality.