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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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BatmanTurian wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

STEEEEVE wrote...

It makes me so, SO happy that after months of desperate denial and grasping at straws, the IT crowd has finally, unavoidably been told that they were all morons.

What is it like being a waste of oxygen, proteins, minerals, and water?


C'mon man, get it the composition right!

Water, 35 liters. Carbon, 20 kilograms. Ammonia, 4 liters. Lime, 1.5 kilograms. Phosphorous, 800 grams. Salt, 250 grams. Saltpeter, 100 grams. Sulfur, 80 grams. Fluorine, 7.5, iron, 5, silicon, 3 grams, and trace amounts of 15 other elements. 


I don't care about the composition, I was being general so that his slug-like mind could comprehend my question.



Was a FullMetal Alchemist quote. ;)

Guess that one flew over your head. 

Modifié par Golferguy758, 22 juin 2012 - 09:57 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this from a post, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 22 juin 2012 - 09:59 .


#25003
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Corik wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

1st on 1000th page woot!:o


You cheated! I saw it!


no i counted the number of posts it changes after 25

#25004
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Bill Casey wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

"Most content will take place before the beam"


It says "Most new content begins right before the run to the beacon"


I don't think it changes anything because as we've already figured out is that the Indoctrination influence doesn't start at the beam but before it during the London mission. It also could be that they are also clearing up details like the missiles that aren't supposed to exist. If anything this comment just strengthens my add on theory to the IT. As shepard gets closer to the beam the influence gets stronger. *See Waking Nightmare Theory in signiture 

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Golferguy758 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

STEEEEVE wrote...

It makes me so, SO happy that after months of desperate denial and grasping at straws, the IT crowd has finally, unavoidably been told that they were all morons.

What is it like being a waste of oxygen, proteins, minerals, and water?


C'mon man, get it the composition right!

Water, 35 liters. Carbon, 20 kilograms. Ammonia, 4 liters. Lime, 1.5 kilograms. Phosphorous, 800 grams. Salt, 250 grams. Saltpeter, 100 grams. Sulfur, 80 grams. Fluorine, 7.5, iron, 5, silicon, 3 grams, and trace amounts of 15 other elements. 


I don't care about the composition, I was being general so that his slug-like mind could comprehend my question.



Was a FullMetal Alchemist quote. ;)

Guess that one flew over your head. 


No, I totally got it and kudos to you for nailing it.

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dreamgazer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this from one of her posts, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 


And the EC, 1.9 gb.  Yeah, it's more than just a few cutscenes.

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[quote]DiebytheSword wrote...

My guess is that the ending mixed
literal and non-literal moments, and at least some of what happened in
the end took place in Shepard's head as a battle of wills. As I've said
before, I think IT is on to something, but is off the mark.

Literalists
might get dissapointed to find that nothing has changed to remove all
possibility of IT, and that the new ending is just as vague on that
point as the old.[/quote]

What would be nuts/weird would be if
they made EVERY ending valid. Synthesis gets their nonsense, Control
gets PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER, and people who picked destroy get Indoc
theory. but indoc theory only exists if you picked destroy. Certainly a
please all, but I don't know if I could stomach it or not.

[/quote]
Hehe. Genie.
But that's good, I like. It's the only way I can see of keeping everyone happy. (And in the end it would mean IT is really the true ending:whistle:)

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btw i have been informed that the EC is roughly 1.9 GB of space... yeah
that is bigger than LOtSB. That means.. GAMEPLAY
but hey i only read that on a youtube comment so dont take it to be the undeniable truth just yet.

EDIT: Posted Image'd

Modifié par ll PAYASO323 ll, 22 juin 2012 - 10:00 .


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[quote]BatmanTurian wrote...

Was a FullMetal Alchemist quote. ;)

Guess that one flew over your head. 
[/quote]

No, I totally got it and kudos to you for nailing it.

[/quote]

Apologies, then. Lot of people have yet to read/watch it so I wasn't sure :D

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dreamgazer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 


okay yeah this is huge.

of course it could be something like this over and over :

Mac Walters voice-over comments: " Now do you see this? This is called Indoctrination."

Casey Hudson: " spell it with us I-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-n-a-t-i-o-n."

just kidding....

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 22 juin 2012 - 10:01 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 


okay yeah this is huge.

of course it could be something like this over and over :

Mac Walters voice-over comments: " Now do you see this? This is called Indoctrination."

Casey Hudson: " spell it with us I-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-n-a-t-i-o-n."

just kidding....


"Hurrdurr, they're too lazy to write own content and copy fanfiction" *derpface.jpg*

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 22 juin 2012 - 10:03 .


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Hey, uh, what size was From Ashes?

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BatmanTurian wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 


okay yeah this is huge.

of course it could be something like this over and over :

Mac Walters voice-over comments: " Now do you see this? This is called Indoctrination."

Casey Hudson: " spell it with us I-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-n-a-t-i-o-n."

just kidding....

LOL i wouldn't be surprised if people still didn't get it after that!

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

btw i have been informed that the EC is roughly 1.9 GB of space... yeah
that is bigger than LOtSB. That means.. GAMEPLAY
but hey i only read that on a youtube comment so dont take it to be the undeniable truth just yet.

EDIT: Posted Image'd


Unless they just make the part before the beam bigger. Or maybe baddies on the Citadel?? It would make sense for TIM to have guards...why go alone??

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 22 juin 2012 - 10:05 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

Well i'll be honest, some people say that if IT is not true they still be happy.

I'll be dissappointed when the EC is nothing more than a 'this is what happens to your squad, bye bye'

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


I also think there's more to it, but i'm saving some room for dissapointment.

I'm dutch, we do that.

Modifié par Jusseb, 22 juin 2012 - 10:05 .


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1.9 gigs sure must mean some fancy cinematics! No way it could possibly have gameplay.

Yea, sure. Just cinematics.... in almost 2 gigs of data

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LotSB?

#25018
BatmanTurian

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MaximizedAction wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

A "bye bye" that happens to need more space than LOTSB?

I've been saying it for months. There will be more to it.


Hopefully The Angry One won't take offense to me pulling this, but here's a rundown of the data sizes for all the primary DLCs:

The Angry One wrote...

Well let's review.

Arrival - 880mb
LotSB - 1.5gb
Kasumi - 990mb
Zaeed - 478mb
Firewalker - 474mb
Overlord - 1gb

 


okay yeah this is huge.

of course it could be something like this over and over :

Mac Walters voice-over comments: " Now do you see this? This is called Indoctrination."

Casey Hudson: " spell it with us I-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-n-a-t-i-o-n."

just kidding....


"Hurrdurr, they're too lazy to write own content and copy fanfiction" *derpface.jpg*


Casey Hudson- 20th time : Spell it with us. I-n-d-o-c-t-r-i-"

Literalists:
 Posted Image

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 22 juin 2012 - 10:07 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

btw i have been informed that the EC is roughly 1.9 GB of space... yeah
that is bigger than LOtSB. That means.. GAMEPLAY
but hey i only read that on a youtube comment so dont take it to be the undeniable truth just yet.

EDIT: Posted Image'd


Unless they just make the part before the beam bigger. Or maybe baddies on the Citadel??

i don't know too much about how much space things take up.. but i am not so sure that changing certain things to existing content would take up so much space. unless the completely retconned it or something

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dreamgazer wrote...

Hey, uh, what size was From Ashes?


I'm seeing a value of ~615 MB. 

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Golferguy758 wrote...

1.9 gigs sure must mean some fancy cinematics! No way it could possibly have gameplay.

Yea, sure. Just cinematics.... in almost 2 gigs of data

Posted Image


I guess that they COULD be some really BIG cinematics, but I highly doubt that.

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Before the 8th of March 2012, the Bioware Social Network was a happy place. A place where the community of Mass Effect (and Dragon Age ;) ) could gather and talk about what they loved.

On the 8th of March 2012, 2 days after the release of Mass Effect 3; people began to finish the game. The ending became a hot topic of debate. It was like marmite, some hated and some loved it. Friction and tension started to rise in the Mass Effect community. Less than 1 day later, theories of Commander Shepard's indoctrination arose. The Indoctrination Theory was born, and so was the BSN Civil War.

The war tore the community into 3 parts. Those who believed the Theory, those who didn't and those who were neutral. What was once a peaceful place where people conversed and had fun had quickly become a warzone. People arguing everywhere, insults being thrown around. Countless hours spent studying the game for clues to support the Theory. Documentaries made, newspaper articles written. The ending and the Indoctrination Theory had all but disintegrated the Mass Effect community.

3 months later, the war still wages. But in 4 days, it will all end.
In 4 days, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is released.
In 4 days, the truth will out.
In 4 days, this endless and bitter war will hopefully come to an end.

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Dwailing wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

1.9 gigs sure must mean some fancy cinematics! No way it could possibly have gameplay.

Yea, sure. Just cinematics.... in almost 2 gigs of data

Posted Image


I guess that they COULD be some really BIG cinematics, but I highly doubt that.


It's possible. I just really wanted to use that gif image. And the context fit perfectly so....

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UrgedDuke wrote...

LotSB?

Lair of the Shadow Broker...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 22 juin 2012 - 10:08 .


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As comparation, all ME3 cinematics are around 3.2GB.