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Andromidius wrote...

Do people seriously think they are going to divulge spoiler information via Twitter?

They are being vague ON PURPOSE. They want people to see it and come up with their own conclusions. Regardless of what Bioware intended with the ending, this is exactly what they are doing.

So no more of this 'Bioware debunked IT' rubbish. Its vague and inconclusive both ways - if they wanted to debunk IT they'd have done it a long time ago, not on the brink of a make-or-break patch release.

EXACTLY

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mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

Guys, if anything, the IT is even more of a possibility right now. Hudson/Mac said that the EC was going to delve deeper into what BW thought people already inferred. This is vague, but this could very well mean that Bioware intended for people to infer that Shepard was indoctrinated, and now they are making sure that we understand that. Plus, people have posted pictures on BSN from the EC showing Shepard on a likely damaged Normandy with his crew and one with an umasked Quarian shaking hands with a guess. None of those scenarios make sense unless the current ending is false, which means the only way for this to make sense is if the IT is true.


wat? Links, please?


The quarian one is somewhere, but here is the Shepard one:
http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-04-p.jpg 

And the thing about Casey Hudson and Mac Walters is in the EC podcast. 


Those in the link to me seems: ( from left to right)
Liara
Ash
Don't know
Vega
Garrus
Tali 
Joker 
Edi


There is actually a ninth "person"...unless Tali has grown a third leg, the extra person is almost completely hidden - except for the lower leg and a shadow...and is it just me or does the "Don't Know" silhouette look like Kaidan...

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

This is from the official website...there are five pictures in the middle of the page, whcih are casuing a lot of speculation.  I personally don't think that there is enough there to make any inferences about what they are depicting (except maye the one with Joker - the captio does appear to show Hackett giving him an order).


A poster on here posted a pic of the subtitles with the Hackett pic. Apparently, Hackett is ordering the troops to leave via relay because the Crucible has been armed, or something along those lines.


It's something along the lines of: " Crucible's armed. Disengage and go to randevous point"
And disengage might be : cease fire on the reapers, because we think that the Crucible will do his part, and contain damage.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

This is from the official website...there are five pictures in the middle of the page, whcih are casuing a lot of speculation.  I personally don't think that there is enough there to make any inferences about what they are depicting (except maye the one with Joker - the captio does appear to show Hackett giving him an order).


We have determined that Hackett is giving an order to dissengage because the crucible is active. The one with the crew is the surviving crew looking at the memorial wall which I believe could be for if Shepard died and his name is on there now.  The geth and quarian one is somewhere in a city but you can't see the quarians face.

Here is the geth/quarian:

http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-05-p.jpg

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mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

This is from the official website...there are five pictures in the middle of the page, whcih are casuing a lot of speculation.  I personally don't think that there is enough there to make any inferences about what they are depicting (except maye the one with Joker - the captio does appear to show Hackett giving him an order).


A poster on here posted a pic of the subtitles with the Hackett pic. Apparently, Hackett is ordering the troops to leave via relay because the Crucible has been armed, or something along those lines.


It's something along the lines of: " Crucible's armed. Disengage and go to randevous point"
And disengage might be : cease fire on the reapers, because we think that the Crucible will do his part, and contain damage.


"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."

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D.Sharrah wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

Guys, if anything, the IT is even more of a possibility right now. Hudson/Mac said that the EC was going to delve deeper into what BW thought people already inferred. This is vague, but this could very well mean that Bioware intended for people to infer that Shepard was indoctrinated, and now they are making sure that we understand that. Plus, people have posted pictures on BSN from the EC showing Shepard on a likely damaged Normandy with his crew and one with an umasked Quarian shaking hands with a guess. None of those scenarios make sense unless the current ending is false, which means the only way for this to make sense is if the IT is true.


wat? Links, please?


The quarian one is somewhere, but here is the Shepard one:
http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-04-p.jpg 

And the thing about Casey Hudson and Mac Walters is in the EC podcast. 


Those in the link to me seems: ( from left to right)
Liara
Ash
Don't know
Vega
Garrus
Tali 
Joker 
Edi


There is actually a ninth "person"...unless Tali has grown a third leg, the extra person is almost completely hidden - except for the lower leg and a shadow...and is it just me or does the "Don't Know" silhouette look like Kaidan...

 
Ok, I think that I don't know might be Javik, because of the silhouette of his tight ( between ash and vega, who is holding something). I see the third leg, but I'm too tired now to speculate on his owner.. ;)

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D.Sharrah wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

This is from the official website...there are five pictures in the middle of the page, which are casuing a lot of speculation.  I personally don't think that there is enough there to make any inferences about what they are depicting (except maybe the one with Joker - the caption does appear to show Hackett giving him an order).


Besides...I can't imagine them posting anything that would "spoil" the EC so close to the release date.  Including telling (whatever the source - twitter, facebook, interview - whatever the source) if one of the possible outcomes is IT or not.

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To sum up everything that we have learned about EC today:

Things are going to happen. And stuff will occur. With a small bit of happenings to happen.

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OdanUrr wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

This is from the official website...there are five pictures in the middle of the page, whcih are casuing a lot of speculation.  I personally don't think that there is enough there to make any inferences about what they are depicting (except maye the one with Joker - the captio does appear to show Hackett giving him an order).


A poster on here posted a pic of the subtitles with the Hackett pic. Apparently, Hackett is ordering the troops to leave via relay because the Crucible has been armed, or something along those lines.


It's something along the lines of: " Crucible's armed. Disengage and go to randevous point"
And disengage might be : cease fire on the reapers, because we think that the Crucible will do his part, and contain damage.


"All Fleets: The Crucible is armed. Disengage and head to the rendezvous point."


Yes, that! But does disengage mean duck out of the sistem? I don't think so. Reapers are in Earth orbit, there is a whole sistem to rendezvous, right?

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mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

Guys, if anything, the IT is even more of a possibility right now. Hudson/Mac said that the EC was going to delve deeper into what BW thought people already inferred. This is vague, but this could very well mean that Bioware intended for people to infer that Shepard was indoctrinated, and now they are making sure that we understand that. Plus, people have posted pictures on BSN from the EC showing Shepard on a likely damaged Normandy with his crew and one with an umasked Quarian shaking hands with a guess. None of those scenarios make sense unless the current ending is false, which means the only way for this to make sense is if the IT is true.


wat? Links, please?


The quarian one is somewhere, but here is the Shepard one:
http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-04-p.jpg 

And the thing about Casey Hudson and Mac Walters is in the EC podcast. 


Those in the link to me seems: ( from left to right)
Liara
Ash
Don't know
Vega
Garrus
Tali 
Joker 
Edi

Notably no shepard, I imagine this is for the "shepard saves the galaxy and dies" scenario :whistle:

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D.Sharrah wrote...


There is actually a ninth "person"...unless Tali has grown a third leg, the extra person is almost completely hidden - except for the lower leg and a shadow...and is it just me or does the "Don't Know" silhouette look like Kaidan...


It is Kaidan. It depends on whether you saved Kaidan or Ashley on which one is just a place holder. Could the hidden extra person be Javik? He's the only party member who seems to be missing.

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10 minutes for the Extended Cut guys.... I hate to say but it seems that the IT is wrong. You can't have gameplay and scenes in that time span. I swear I am never going to buy another thing from this company ever again.

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I just heard the news. I'm so excited I feel like just sleeping until June 26th, starting right now.

So, we're supposed to load a game right before going to the mission where we destroy Cerberus' base, right?

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mrs.N7 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

Guys, if anything, the IT is even more of a possibility right now. Hudson/Mac said that the EC was going to delve deeper into what BW thought people already inferred. This is vague, but this could very well mean that Bioware intended for people to infer that Shepard was indoctrinated, and now they are making sure that we understand that. Plus, people have posted pictures on BSN from the EC showing Shepard on a likely damaged Normandy with his crew and one with an umasked Quarian shaking hands with a guess. None of those scenarios make sense unless the current ending is false, which means the only way for this to make sense is if the IT is true.


wat? Links, please?


The quarian one is somewhere, but here is the Shepard one:
http://na.llnet.biow...ed_cut-04-p.jpg 

And the thing about Casey Hudson and Mac Walters is in the EC podcast. 


Those in the link to me seems: ( from left to right)
Liara
Ash
Don't know
Vega
Garrus
Tali 
Joker 
Edi


There is actually a ninth "person"...unless Tali has grown a third leg, the extra person is almost completely hidden - except for the lower leg and a shadow...and is it just me or does the "Don't Know" silhouette look like Kaidan...

 
Ok, I think that I don't know might be Javik, because of the silhouette of his tight ( between ash and vega, who is holding something). I see the third leg, but I'm too tired now to speculate on his owner.. ;)


The third leg almost look like another quarian...with the shin pad that extends above the knee?

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People seem pretty riled up right now. Here's some music to calm down!



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Silent Rogue wrote...

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So who are all these people? To me they look like the following:

From left to right: Liara, Ashley, Samara???(I don't know, the face looks femine), Bailey(???), Garrus, Joker (posssibly Anderson, but it seems too slim to be him), Tali and EDI.


Scratch that, it's probably Hackett. It looks more like his hair in that pic.

Modifié par Silent Rogue, 22 juin 2012 - 11:36 .


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Guys, I'm really scared about this EC. I'm sure it will "improve" the current endings, but I don't see any reason to believe IT is going to be proven correct. If anyone has any evidence to the contrary, please share.

I mean...they showed a picture of the scene explaining why Joker is leaving...which means it's real :(

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Well, I seem to have missed about 60-80 pages :P
I don't really have the time to go through them all so...Did we find anything interesting in the last 3 days? And what's everyone's opinion on the information we've gotten about the EC now that it's got an official release date?

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liggy002 wrote...

10 minutes for the Extended Cut guys.... I hate to say but it seems that the IT is wrong. You can't have gameplay and scenes in that time span. I swear I am never going to buy another thing from this company ever again.



maybe if IT is right the result will be in future content?  you know, the stuff they were working on BEFORE the fan rage?

some ppl break far too easily...

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It is Javik.

Like the final speech in London, they have placement for every possible party member. They won't all be there, obviously (you're not going to have both Kaidan and Ashley, for instance), but that's where those who are alive in your game will be positioned in that scene.

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Ravereth wrote...

 I have a strange feeling that this track is somehow related to ME... and even if its not I can't get it out of my head while thinking about the EC :whistle:...

Still keeping my hopes high for IT, but even if it isn't true, it has been great speculating with you guys ;)

PS.  I have my last exam on June 25... perfect timing Bioware! :D


Definitely agree. Has the same feel as Sam's other music for ME3. I predict it's when they're hunting for Shepard's body, at around 48 seconds is when Shepard is reunited with his love interest?

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Arashi08 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

10 minutes for the Extended Cut guys.... I hate to say but it seems that the IT is wrong. You can't have gameplay and scenes in that time span. I swear I am never going to buy another thing from this company ever again.



maybe if IT is right the result will be in future content?  you know, the stuff they were working on BEFORE the fan rage?

some ppl break far too easily...


They said no post game DLC.  It doesn't seem likely.  Excuse me for being upset.  They pretty much ignored just about every request I've made.  They can go to hell.

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For What possible reason would joker leave?
nomatter what you think of he would never leave shepard and why would he not give him/her a heads up.
And the whole teleporting thing.

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liggy002 wrote...

10 minutes for the Extended Cut guys.... I hate to say but it seems that the IT is wrong. You can't have gameplay and scenes in that time span. I swear I am never going to buy another thing from this company ever again.


Okay you are coming too quick to conclusions. You're like this guy. (except the dying part) Think before running off, there may be something around the corner... :P Hopefully something good though.

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S***. Geth with a green eye. Could it be synthesis? Looks like this could go either way.