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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#25251
LazyTechGuy

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ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

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@Big Bad, 10 mins is true.

"@kalepost In a single play through, I'd say it adds ~10+ minutes, but there's quite a few iterations that require separate games to see"


i swear i saw something that disproved that.. dafuq? this ****s outta wack


It sucks. 

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JasonSic wrote...

"...additional scenes and epilogue sequences..."

Scenes can easily mean cutscenes, but sequences? Sequences has to be gameplay.

This guy may be on to something.

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I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? :), it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...

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Rifneno wrote...
I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math

Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files. :?

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Rifneno wrote...

Wow, look at everybody taking every word coming from anyone at BW as absolute truth. I'm glad I've got this "long term memory" thingie that lets me remember the dozens of things they said about ME3's ending before release that turned out to be completely untrue. You guys should mingle on over to that bowl of valium.


I'm with* Rifneno on this, we simply don't know enough to make facts just yet. We'll have to wait and see a few more days. Besides even after EC I'm sure there's still something more to come. IT or not, something.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 23 juin 2012 - 12:40 .


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would bioware really start another s**t storm with the content that is supposed to quell the backlash

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Rifneno wrote...

Wow, look at everybody taking every word coming from anyone at BW as absolute truth. I'm glad I've got this "long term memory" thingie that lets me remember the dozens of things they said about ME3's ending before release that turned out to be completely untrue. You guys should mingle on over to that bowl of valium.

im right there with you

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Melancholic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math

Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files. :?


I'm on Xbox and they still get way more blurry.

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Look, I'm skeptical about Jessica too. But unlike her previous flubs, she's repeating the same thing over and over again. IT won't be addressed in the EC. She implies if you want to keep it as head cannon, that is certainly your right, but that's it. She says the EC works from both a literal and IT perspective.

So basically the twist of the EC is that the clarification is whatever you want it to be.

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 23 juin 2012 - 12:40 .


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UrgedDuke wrote...

would bioware really start another s**t storm with the content that is supposed to quell the backlash


They already have. Just the announcement caused a lot of activity. Wonder what will happen when EC comes out...

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Jere85 wrote...

I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? :), it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...


So you're saying, if they mess it up AGAIN, demand another ending? Possibly IT?

I like were this is going.

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I'll just wait a few more days. Thats all it will take and then I'll know for sure. With this mountain of evidence we have collected I still feel majorly good about the chances we have of success. Especially that last bit with the Sound Analysis. There is no freaking way Bioware would have not made that unintentionally nor would they be callous enough to forget knowing that we with the internet can basically unearth damn near everything nowadays.

So thats why I still have hope. More then most think they do.

The worst thing that could possibly happen anyway is that the EC leaves it up in the air still. That would be offensive in my mind and as bad as "What's a Paladin?". Oh yeah... I went there.

Modifié par Domanese, 23 juin 2012 - 12:44 .


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ZeogYoru vas Tasi wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? :), it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...


So you're saying, if they mess it up AGAIN, demand another ending? Possibly IT?

I like were this is going.

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Modifié par RaenImrahl, 23 juin 2012 - 01:23 .


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Some thing to think about. "It does not fundamentally change the endings" I know it's vague but couldn't this mean they kind of changed them, just not "fundamentally"?

"And it shows greater detail in the successes or failures based on how players achieved their endings." Failures? I know it could mean really low EMS but couldn't it also mean "You were indoctrinated: Critical mission failure"

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Melancholic wrote...
Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files. :?


Well that's interesting.  Could mean there's a lot more on there then they are letting on, if they are using in-game cutscenes.

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ZeogYoru vas Tasi wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? :), it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...


So you're saying, if they mess it up AGAIN, demand another ending? Possibly IT?

I like were this is going.

Just thinking out loud really (A)

Edit: not wanting to start anything here, so just forget about it and see what EC brings us first :)

Modifié par Jere85, 23 juin 2012 - 12:46 .


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JasonSic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

Lol yea it's big. Mass Effect 3 alone is about 10gb if i remember correctly. The extended cut will be about 1/6 of the game!

^^ Take this into perspective, people! Posted Image


I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math


Also, why would they want you to start playing again before the Cerberus base if it's only 10 minutes? Is it just 10 one minute segments split up through the last few hours of the game? I don't think so...

well she had said that it was 10min for a single playthrough, and there are three possible endings based on what we have, so it is technically 30min in total I guess.

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I look forward to the ensuing ****storm. It'll be amusing regardless of who is right. I'm over Mass Effect, so no skin off my nose at this point :)

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Lol I think everyone should just get off of twitter. They are not going to spoil anything over twitter, and not this close to the release.

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BansheeOwnage

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Arashi08 wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

Lol yea it's big. Mass Effect 3 alone is about 10gb if i remember correctly. The extended cut will be about 1/6 of the game!

^^ Take this into perspective, people! Posted Image


I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math


Also, why would they want you to start playing again before the Cerberus base if it's only 10 minutes? Is it just 10 one minute segments split up through the last few hours of the game? I don't think so...

well she had said that it was 10min for a single playthrough, and there are three possible endings based on what we have, so it is technically 30min in total I guess.

She didn't say three she said multiple.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 23 juin 2012 - 12:47 .


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But we have to try to have hope even though we will not be wrong we still have to believe in what we are and Bioware the one who has created all of this. So let's play as commander Shepard one last time and let's make Shepard the Legend he, or she deserves for Shepard and for the Future of ME.

Modifié par masster blaster, 23 juin 2012 - 12:48 .


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Arashi08 wrote...
well she had said that it was 10min for a single playthrough, and there are three possible endings based on what we have, so it is technically 30min in total I guess.


...there are already three different endings.

She's waffling.  She doesn't know anything about the EC.

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ZeogYoru vas Tasi wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? :), it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...


So you're saying, if they mess it up AGAIN, demand another ending? Possibly IT?

I like were this is going.

If this happened the whole world would consider us ungrateful, even Forbes.

I fear there will never be a conclusive answer from BioWare regarding the IT. I'm sure they love this thread, and want "IT vs literal ending" to remain a topic of debate among fans for years to come. Maybe in an interview 20 years from now, a retired Casey Hudson will reveal the truth. From his underground bunker. In the jungle. Where he's been hiding from angry ME fans since June 26th 2012.

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Starbuck8 wrote...

Lol I think everyone should just get off of twitter. They are not going to spoil anything over twitter, and not this close to the release.


its already ruined

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Andromidius wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...
well she had said that it was 10min for a single playthrough, and there are three possible endings based on what we have, so it is technically 30min in total I guess.


...there are already three different endings.

She's waffling.  She doesn't know anything about the EC.

i meant that in the context of the three we have, she was saying one single playthrough would have +10min of EC content, but you only get to choose between red green and blue the first time.  say if you chose red, you would have to start over at the cerberus station two more times to see the EC options for the blue and green endings.