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[LazyTechGuy]

Andromidius wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...
well she had said that it was 10min for a single playthrough, and there are three possible endings based on what we have, so it is technically 30min in total I guess.

...there are already three different endings.

She's waffling.  She doesn't know anything about the EC.

But she played it. 

[BansheeOwnage]

Well I'm gonna go do this mp challenge and finish my playthrough before EC. Maybe I'll see you guys there.

[masster blaster]

And to all of the fans that have stuck with ME since the beginning of ME1 this is it all the time playing over and over as different Shepard's is about to pay of and if this is it then this is it but all I am asking and Bioware is asking. If this out last time as playing Shepard in ME then lest make sure we take the Reapers back to hell along with our Shepard's okay!

Modifié par masster blaster, 23 juin 2012 - 12:53 .

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

But we have to try to have hope even though we will not be wrong we still have to believe in what we are and Bioware the one who has created all of this. So let's play as commander Shepard one last time and let's make Shepard the Legend he, or she deserves. So for Shepard and for the Future of ME.

Well it's not the last time we play as Commander Shepard but still this is it.

Modifié par masster blaster, 23 juin 2012 - 12:57 .

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

And to all of the fans that have stuck with ME since the beginning of ME1 this is it all the time playing over and over as different Shepard's is about to pay of and if this is it then this is it but all I am asking and Bioware is asking. If this out last time as playing Shepard in ME then lest make sure we take the Reapers back to hell along with our Shepard's okay!

I honestly had trouble reading that...

[clennon8]

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

And to all of the fans that have stuck with ME since the beginning of ME1 this is it all the time playing over and over as different Shepard's is about to pay of and if this is it then this is it but all I am asking and Bioware is asking. If this out last time as playing Shepard in ME then lest make sure we take the Reapers back to hell along with our Shepard's okay!

I honestly had trouble reading that...

Hay I am a complacted person so....

[Andromidius]

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

[clennon8]

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

Hold on.  Let me clarify.  When I spoke of "direct confirmation of IT," I meant from the EC.  Not from Jessica Merizan, who we all know to be an unreliable source of information.

[Dwailing]

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

I'm guessing it's 3.  I mean seriously, she can't just TELL us that IT is true.  That would ruin the surprise.  Besides, I have faith that her dealings with the devs are ethical.  I trust her.

[BansheeOwnage]

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

Yeah if you wanna bail go ahead. I can't say whether I'll defend IT until after EC is released. EC not being confirmed MAKES PERFECT SENSE either way you look at it. Sorry to be so blunt but we've been over this before. Why would they spoil it 4 days before release. A confirmation of denial is a spoiler...

Edit: Sorry I wrote that before your clarification.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 23 juin 2012 - 01:03 .

[Indrick201193]

In the famous words on Anderson "Listen to yourselves your indoctrinated" Chill out people wait until the EC.

[UrgedDuke]

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

I'm guessing it's 3.  I mean seriously, she can't just TELL us that IT is true.  That would ruin the surprise.  Besides, I have faith that her dealings with the devs are ethical.  I trust her.

yes, but she could just not say anything at all. It doesn't make sense to lie

[BansheeOwnage]

UrgedDuke wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

I'm guessing it's 3.  I mean seriously, she can't just TELL us that IT is true.  That would ruin the surprise.  Besides, I have faith that her dealings with the devs are ethical.  I trust her.

yes, but she could just not say anything at all. It doesn't make sense to lie

If she didn't say anything she would look like a total (blank).

[Ansible]

Melancholic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math

Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files.

Uh...
Plus, think of all the programmed variables. Even 10 minutes, WALL TO WALL, as you say, could only be for one of the endings.

Then there are the other two.

Then all the variables of who lived, or died, which could be stored in a completely different cutscene.

10 minutes, but remember what she said about the number of variables for different endings. I think it will only add 10 minutes for one version of it, and if there are lots of versions, that could be a substantial amount of cutscenes.

[UrgedDuke]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

To me, no direct confirmation of IT would mean it's time to bail on IT. If we have to keep headcanoning "it was a dream," thereby putting ourselves in the position of continuing to defend a non-ending, then we will deserve all the derision that will be heaped on us.

Bye.

And sure, Jessica may have played it.  But the way she talks about it she either:

1/ Doesn't really understand what happened.
2/ Is lying.
3/ Has been told to throw people off the scent.

Take your pick.  I'm going to bed now.

I'm guessing it's 3.  I mean seriously, she can't just TELL us that IT is true.  That would ruin the surprise.  Besides, I have faith that her dealings with the devs are ethical.  I trust her.

yes, but she could just not say anything at all. It doesn't make sense to lie

If she didn't say anything she would look like a total (blank).

she could just say "don't want to spoil anything, the content will speak for itself"

[Wolfram Tarant]

@JessicaMerizan I hear again and again from BW that they 'want to provide more closure', and yet you won't confirm or deny IT? Great closure

@NightHawkIL that's something you have to decide for yourself. It's a great theory, but (at least right now) we're not saying more than that

Oi... she should just stop... lol

I sort of wish I hadn't seen anything from today. Too much... too much stuff.

[Dwailing]

You know, I'm replaying the endings (So I can have a save right before the Cerberus Base, like BW recommended.), and I noticed something. When Anderson says, "Of course you can't, they own you now (Or something like that.)," He looks away from the camera. Every other time he spoke, the camera looked directly at his face, even if he didn't look directly into the camera. However, on that line, he looks distinctly AWAY from the camera. I just thought this was interesting.

[Rifneno]

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

ZeogYoru vas Tasi wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I do wonder... not suggesting it or anything, but if EC decides to ruin everybody's lunch, or at least 70/80% of us, we would demand another cut? , it sounds silly, but tbh if something is still terrible, it doesnt mean we have to leave it alone because "they tried"...

So you're saying, if they mess it up AGAIN, demand another ending? Possibly IT?

I like were this is going.

LOL

Count me out.  If they give us an ambiguous ending, something they literally promised us they would not do, BW can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.  I'll still remain sure that Shepard is indoctrinated but you won't find me talking about it on BSN or anywhere except perhaps friends in private conversations.

I'm reminded of when they brought up that "was Deckard a Replicant?" bit.  How many years, decades, did it take to get confirmation on that?  Besides which, there was a moral lesson in them not verifying that.  The lesson was to make fans think about the difference between a replicant and a human.  If he was a replicant and he was so close to human that we couldn't tell, then it blurs the line between the two.  THERE IS NO SUCH MORAL LESSON WITH INDOCTRINATION.  It just means that the Reapers weren't defeated.  And the Reapers not being defeated is not an acceptable ending.  Period.

Mind you, I haven't given up hope that EC will prove IT and give us a real ending.  I'm strictly speaking "if it doesn't."

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 23 juin 2012 - 01:24 .

[MegaSovereign]

Oh man this theory is on life support.

This is like the fall of Thessia. And Bioware is Kai Leng.

[ZerebusPrime]

Good grief this thread. I realize this will be buried in no time flat, but..........

Continuing my second playthrough and just finished Rannoch. Noticed two things:

1. The level where you have to expose the Reaper to orbital bombardment is partially a factory. And what is that factory producing? VR pods just like the one Legion used to send Shepard into the Geth concensus. Why would the Reapers want to build those en masse? Maybe another play on the Matrix? Some way to send Reaper code into organic brains? Eh, doesn't matter; we blew them all up.

2. When I first confronted that Reaper on Rannoch, I made the mistake of asking it for answers. The reply was nonsense, felt wrong, and Shepard came across as too sympathetic to the Reapers. This time, Renegade responses all the way. FAR more satisfying.


There is still that one tiny little troubling part with Legion fading out at the end of the Geth Consensus mission before you escape the consensus, but given the state of things if I start speculating I may find myself dogpiled.

[masster blaster]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Oh man this theory is on life support.

This is like the fall of Thessia. And Bioware is Kai Leng.

Then we're Commander SHepard and we will STOP AT NOTHING.

[Rifneno]

Ansible wrote...

Melancholic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math

Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files.

Uh...
Plus, think of all the programmed variables. Even 10 minutes, WALL TO WALL, as you say, could only be for one of the endings.

Then there are the other two.

Then all the variables of who lived, or died, which could be stored in a completely different cutscene.

10 minutes, but remember what she said about the number of variables for different endings. I think it will only add 10 minutes for one version of it, and if there are lots of versions, that could be a substantial amount of cutscenes.

No.  You're confusing cutscenes with FMV (full motion video).  FMV's are pre-rendered scenes that take up tons of space.  Cutscenes that play with the system rendering them take up very little space.  Mostly just audio.  So the only cutscenes you can count for massive space takers are FMV's, which never take tons of diverging paths into account.  Take the Sword battle for instance.  That's all FMV.  Do you see the volus bombing fleet?  How about the batarians?  No.  You see the minimum possible: turian, asari, alliance.  You get a short, few second cutscene that varies upon whether you saved the Destiny Ascension.  Then you get a relatively short one based on whether you saved the geth or quarians (if both, it defaults to quarian).  At the engagement, it diverges based on your EMS.  All variations of what you can take to sword combine to a grand total of only 400 megs.

[llbountyhunter]

Ansible wrote...

Melancholic wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I got some more math for you guys.  I checked a 90 meg .bik FMV.  It was 56 seconds.  That's about 1.6 megs a second.  10 minutes of SOLID, WALL TO WALL full motion video would only bring us to 960 megs.  Less than half the size of EC.

Dear Mass Effect Community,
1.9 gigs of EC being 10 minutes of content?  I call bull****.
Sincerely,
Basic Math

Cutscenes using the game engine are not .bik files, and take up much less space.

They only use pre-rendered movies for stuff the game engine can't pull off, like space battles.

They also reduce the graphics from PC crisp to Xbox blurry, because everyone gets the same .bik files.

Uh...
Plus, think of all the programmed variables. Even 10 minutes, WALL TO WALL, as you say, could only be for one of the endings.

Then there are the other two.

Then all the variables of who lived, or died, which could be stored in a completely different cutscene.

10 minutes, but remember what she said about the number of variables for different endings. I think it will only add 10 minutes for one version of it, and if there are lots of versions, that could be a substantial amount of cutscenes.

But mass effect covers every possible cutscene as well and thats only 10gig. 

This dlc is 20% of the original mass effect 3.

But i might be satified with a inception like ending as long as they adress all the other issues...

And this way no one can all like "haha told you IT is true/false!!!!"