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[FellishBeast]

Guys, I just realized that no matter what happens, we have been victorious. BioWare has officially deemed IT a "great theory."

Huzzah! :innocent:

Modifié par FellishBeast, 23 juin 2012 - 05:57 .

[Domanese]

Well I think the hardest evidence on top of everything in the game was the sound effects, with the dreams, but more then that the... what was it the ultrasound or such that was sprinkled about as the codex describes as part of indoctrination. So Im holding that line. I just hope they do not simply leave it unanswered. But who knows maybe they will give much more solid evidence to IT with the EC that we need to unearth.

[BleedingUranium]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Well here's what Jessica said about additional closure DLCs in the future: (Convo starts at the bottom and goes upwards)

*snip*

Definitely a "I can't really comment"

[Bill Casey]

jules_vern18 wrote...

I've changed my stance on IT and honestly hope that you folks are able to maintain your theory to the extent that it suits your desire for a better ending.  I think the EC may leave room for that, but it doesn't look like you're going to see it play out like you'd hoped (see Merizan tweet: EC will not confirm IT).  If they throw out a few nods and winks to allow the theory to continue, will that be enough?  I'm genuinely curious...do most of you need a definitive answer or are you ok with IT staying as it is - unconfirmed?

I'm fine with that...
At first, I was pissed the game cut out when it did, because IT was my initial impression...
Like beyond obvious that was what was going on. Right away...

My cognitive dissonance thereafter tore my brain apart a bit, but a little ambiguity isn't a bad thing...

I'm a little dissappointed the EC purportedly isn't a LotSB like expansion with more gameplay, but quite honestly, I don't need it because I already love the ending to Mass Effect 3...

Picture's worth a thousand words, so I'll just say...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 23 juin 2012 - 06:09 .

[Auralius Carolus]

*comes in through the front door*

1.9GB! That's a hunk of space for a few cinematics and sequences. And requiring a replay from before the Cerberus base run... with extra emphasis to things already shown. Hmmm.

Well, I guess our cards are out on the table. It'll suck for all of this to come to an end, and boy will the replay through be stressful... I just hope it's worth it.

[Andromidius]

You know, if I was one to grasp at straws I'd really read into Jessica saying "Its a great theory, but (at least right now) we're not saying more than that." And that's screaming 'wait and see what we have in mind, non-subtle wink!'

Oh, and here's an example for you. Sixth Sense: Directors Cut - Bruce Willis' character is a ghost.

Plots should never be revealed before release. Especially not plot twists. You can say 'but they aren't changing anything!' all you like, because the game was screaming 'Shepard is indoctrinated!' at me quite clearly already.

[BleedingUranium]

Bill Casey wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

I've changed my stance on IT and honestly hope that you folks are able to maintain your theory to the extent that it suits your desire for a better ending.  I think the EC may leave room for that, but it doesn't look like you're going to see it play out like you'd hoped (see Merizan tweet: EC will not confirm IT).  If they throw out a few nods and winks to allow the theory to continue, will that be enough?  I'm genuinely curious...do most of you need a definitive answer or are you ok with IT staying as it is - unconfirmed?

I'm fine with that...
At first, I was pissed the game cut out when it did, because IT was my initial impression...
Like beyond obvious that was what was going on. Right away...

My cognitive dissonance thereafter tore my brain apart a bit, but a little ambiguity isn't a bad thing...

I'm a little dissappointed the EC purportedly isn't a LotSB like expansion with more gameplay, but quite honestly, I don't need it because I already love the ending to Mass Effect 3...

Picture's worth a thousand words, so I'll just say...

While I fully agree, I'm going to nitpick Inception, because the ending wasn't actually ambiguous. The top was wobbling, which means he wasn't dreaming.

[FellishBeast]

Is American Psycho good? I thought it looked good, but it's been in my netflix envelope for about 2 months on the piano for about 2 months now.

Also, Donnie Darko is probably my favorite movie of all time. 

Modifié par FellishBeast, 23 juin 2012 - 06:12 .

[Rifneno]

Domanese wrote...

Well I think the hardest evidence on top of everything in the game was the sound effects, with the dreams, but more then that the... what was it the ultrasound or such that was sprinkled about as the codex describes as part of indoctrination. So Im holding that line. I just hope they do not simply leave it unanswered. But who knows maybe they will give much more solid evidence to IT with the EC that we need to unearth.

If I've said it once I've said it a million times... Not good enough.  We need an actual ending.

[TJBartlemus]

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

[Auralius Carolus]

Andromidius wrote...

You know, if I was one to grasp at straws I'd really read into Jessica saying "Its a great theory, but (at least right now) we're not saying more than that." And that's screaming 'wait and see what we have in mind, non-subtle wink!'

Oh, and here's an example for you. Sixth Sense: Directors Cut - Bruce Willis' character is a ghost.

Plots should never be revealed before release. Especially not plot twists. You can say 'but they aren't changing anything!' all you like, because the game was screaming 'Shepard is indoctrinated!' at me quite clearly already.

It's been a long time, but if memory serves, The Sixth Sense was a superb example of how to throw a plot twist without ending in a Deus Ex Machina.

That and Book of Eli, although a lot of people didn't get the profound nature of that implication.

One must simply pay close attention to the odd details through the story...

[Andromidius]

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

[BleedingUranium]

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Remeber, for a little while after ME3 came out, BW was dropping quite a lot of IT type hints, then, abruptly stopped, and has remained extremely vague, while not dismissing IT ever. Why the change? Because IT was gaining momentum, like this thread, it got itself going, then they didn't need to hint anymore, and are still being vague, so if IT if absolutly confirmed in EC, it will still remain a bit of a twist, even to us ITers.

[Domanese]

Rifneno wrote...

Domanese wrote...

Well I think the hardest evidence on top of everything in the game was the sound effects, with the dreams, but more then that the... what was it the ultrasound or such that was sprinkled about as the codex describes as part of indoctrination. So Im holding that line. I just hope they do not simply leave it unanswered.

If I've said it once I've said it a million times... Not good enough.  We need an actual ending.

But who knows maybe they will give much more solid evidence to IT with the EC that we need to unearth. <--- SARCASM! Just to clarify.

[Andromidius]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

You know, if I was one to grasp at straws I'd really read into Jessica saying "Its a great theory, but (at least right now) we're not saying more than that." And that's screaming 'wait and see what we have in mind, non-subtle wink!'

Oh, and here's an example for you. Sixth Sense: Directors Cut - Bruce Willis' character is a ghost.

Plots should never be revealed before release. Especially not plot twists. You can say 'but they aren't changing anything!' all you like, because the game was screaming 'Shepard is indoctrinated!' at me quite clearly already.

It's been a long time, but if memory serves, The Sixth Sense was a superb example of how to throw a plot twist without ending in a Deus Ex Machina.

That and Book of Eli, although a lot of people didn't get the profound nature of that implication.

One must simply pay close attention to the odd details through the story...

Exactly.

Though the problem is, the guy who did Sixth Sense keeps doing the same story regardless of the movie.  So its lost all potential impact.

But yeah, its about observation and interpretation.

[ArtGerhardt]

FellishBeast wrote...

Is American Psycho good? I thought it looked good, but it's been in my netflix envelope for about 2 months on the piano for about 2 months now.

Also, Donnie Darko is probably my favorite movie of all time. 

American Pyscho is one of my favorite movies. It's insane, brilliant, scary, intense, and funny all at the same time. One of Christian Bales best performances also.

Pop it in and watch it. It's not too long, and it's intense pretty much right off the bat. I whole heartedly recommend watching it at least once. I've watched it almost 10 times. Faster paced than Donnie Dark. I assume you like the darker side of movies too if you like Donnie darko so i'd say there's an 90%+ chance you'll love american psycho. It's pure mind-f****.

Modifié par ArtGerhardt, 23 juin 2012 - 06:25 .

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

Yuna said it best.

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

Yuna said it best.

I kinda agree.  I don't want it to be obvious, but I want a proper ending.

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

Yuna said it best.

I kinda agree.  I don't want it to be obvious, but I want a proper ending.

The only people they could ****** off are the people who hate the literal ending (and BW) anyway

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

Yuna said it best.

I kinda agree.  I don't want it to be obvious, but I want a proper ending.

The only people they could ****** off are the people who hate the literal ending (and BW) anyway

That's the vast majority of people here.  The literal ending, as it currently stands, is baaaaaaaaaaaad.

[Auralius Carolus]

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Well, first off people treat Jessica as if she were a prophet. She's been "inaccruate", shall we say, in the past; significantly so.

You know those .gifs and home videos of cats going berserk over laser pointers? Yeah, that's basically the relationship between the BSN and Bioware Community Figures.

[Auralius Carolus]

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What I don't get is why won't BioWare follow IT?? Even if it wasn't their plan from the beginning about 80% or more believe that IT was true. (At least before Jessica started putting out a bunch of stuff on twitter) So why not go with the higher percentage?? So I'm fairly certain that to keep getting money EA would make the smart choice in picking IT. Cause pi**ing a lot of people off won't get them any income...

Because it would upset other people.  They want to appeal to everyone.

Quite if it will work remains to be seen.  But being ambigeous seems to be their plan.

Yuna said it best.

Rikku>Yuna. Pure fact. The Chinchillas have confirmed it, even.

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote..

The literal ending, as it currently stands, is baaaaaaaaaaaad.

No. Stop right there. Saying the literal endings are bad is like saying the core of the sun is a little warm. There comes a point when an understatement becomes sugar coating, and sugar coating becomes falsehood, and a falsehood becomes so great that it begins loops back around into being truth in an act that may well rip the fabric of reality as we know it. Who knows what would pour forth from such a sunder? Perhaps some grotesque mockery of that which we know as life, beings neither living nor dead yet both, that which devours hope itself in a futile attempt to sate its eternal gnawing famine. Perhaps. So please. Please. Don't sugar coat it.

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Rikku>Yuna. Pure fact. The Chinchillas have confirmed it, even.

Bah. I can't stand Rikku. If she acted her age, she wouldn't be able to say "ma-ma" yet.

[Destructorlio]

Well, I'm devastated. It seems pretty clear IT will not be a feature of the EC. I will try and keep an open mind until I play the EC, but my hopes have definitely plummeted. However I just want to say, regardless of what is or is not in the EC, I've had a lot of fun in this forum, and that's because of you good people and your interesting brains. Many thanks for all the intelligent debate and argument- you managed to be even more entertaining than the game itself.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need a very stiff drink.

[Auralius Carolus]

Rifneno wrote...

Bah. I can't stand Rikku. If she acted her age, she wouldn't be able to say "ma-ma" yet.

Bull hockies.

Well, Auron>Every other character in that game.