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#25701
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Just to be clear, I'm not giving up hope entirely, I still think it fits better into the story than the face-value endings. But per their podcast, it seems less likely to happen than I orginally thought... OR maybe it's just because it has been announced on such short notice, 4 days.. It's like.. Are you sure Bioware? lol

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Salient Archer wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

@MaximizedAction: hahaha, oh Colbert. Hang on are you alluding to the fact that I'm a poorly-informed, well intentioned high-status idiot?


No sir, just being proud of ITers that don't lose hope and motivate others. That's what we need right now. And if Arian were here, he'd do the same damn thing. B)

We need to stay on track and keep in mind that those 3000+ IT-thread pages didn't just consist of gamerpoop jokes.

Haha, I did think as much. Oddly enough I was actually watching an episode of Colbert today.

I just haven't seen anything conclusive enough to make me waver from my beliefs, this is it, this is the crucible for us and we either stick to our guns and keep fighting or we waver from our resolve. I would much rather be disappointed that the EC never gave closure to the ITD than in my inability to support all the hard work so many amazing people have contributed to this thread.


Well said! We haven't all carried the IT along for all these months just to abandon it in the final days over ambiguous statements, have we? Even if we're all dead wrong (I don't think so) then at least we can say we stuck it out to the end and stood by all of our hard work, dedication, analysis, and evidence.

QFT Exactly my feelings on the matter. We didn't charge towards the finish line against all adversity only to give up a few meters from the finish line. IT being right or wrong doesn't even matter, it's our dedication, our relationships, our resolve, WE are the ITD.


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Merizan describes it mearly as an interpretation. That to me, pretty much says its not canon.

To which I say... WTF?

If IT isn't true, I have a list... a LIST... of things I will be asking them about.

Just a few:

What was up with Shepard's dreams? Why were there numerous indoctrination symptoms taking place if it didn't mean anything?

Why did we hear a Reaper 'growl' when Anderson interrupted Shepard with the child in the beginning? The same 'growl' that is described in one of the novels as what is heard when the Reaper's fail to maintain control over one of their subject's minds.

How the flying f*** did Shepard survive the Citadel explosion in Destroy? Did he just magically float down to Earth unharmed? Don't tell me that that rubble was the Citadel. It was concrete. Why the hell make it look like London if it never was. (can't wait to see this 'explained' in the EC if the IT isn't true)

And what the hell was the purpose of the breath scene to begin with?

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That's just a few. If Bioware does not confirm the IT with the EC, then they'll be getting a sh**load of questions from me about their 'artistic integrity'.

I am insulted if they expect me to accept the current endings. They go entirely against the trilogy.

So yeah, if the IT isn't true, or at least strongly suggested to be in the EC, then Bioware and I will have to have a little talk. :mellow:

Modifié par Makrys, 23 juin 2012 - 09:39 .


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Starbuck8 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Maybe I overdid that. Tricky bioware making it look green when it's really not. Lol, silly gooses.


^_^

It could be a color optical illusion effect like this www.richferguson.com/same-color.html


As a forensics student, I've been tested on this stuff.  Oh well, no harm done.  And we're still speculating, debunking, and being constructive.  IT Thread=Win

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Makrys wrote...

Merizan describes it mearly as an interpretation. That to me, pretty much says its not canon.

To which I say... WTF?

If IT isn't true, I have a list... a LIST... of things I will be asking them about.

Just a few:

What was up with Shepard's dreams? Why were there numerous indoctrination symptoms taking place if it didn't mean anything?

Why did we hear a Reaper 'growl' when Anderson interrupted Shepard with the child in the beginning? The same 'growl' that is described in one of the novels as what is heard when the Reaper's fail to maintain control over one of their subject's minds.

How the flying f*** did Shepard survive the Citadel explosion in Destroy? Did he just magically float down to Earth unharmed? Don't tell me that that rubble was the Citadel. It was concrete. Why the hell make it look like London if it never was. (can't wait to see this 'explained' in the EC if the IT isn't true)

And what the hell was the purpose of the breath scene to begin with?

---

That's just a few. If Bioware does not confirm the IT with the EC, then they'll be getting a sh**load of questions from me about their 'artistic integrity'.

I am insulted if they expect me to accept the current endings. It goes against everything about the trilogy.

So yeah, if the IT isn't true, or at least strongly suggested to be in the EC, then Bioware and I will have to have a little talk. :mellow:


You might want to get tickets to SDCC then ;)

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

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Oh, I never realized that was a Geth. Thanks.

I don't like that picture...definitely reeks of the green ending.:sick:


i always thought geth "lights" went from units with green, blue and red lights

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Oh! Never noticed that.. then this might not have to be Synthesis after all...

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Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan describes it mearly as an interpretation. That to me, pretty much says its not canon.

To which I say... WTF?

If IT isn't true, I have a list... a LIST... of things I will be asking them about.

Just a few:

What was up with Shepard's dreams? Why were there numerous indoctrination symptoms taking place if it didn't mean anything?

Why did we hear a Reaper 'growl' when Anderson interrupted Shepard with the child in the beginning? The same 'growl' that is described in one of the novels as what is heard when the Reaper's fail to maintain control over one of their subject's minds.

How the flying f*** did Shepard survive the Citadel explosion in Destroy? Did he just magically float down to Earth unharmed? Don't tell me that that rubble was the Citadel. It was concrete. Why the hell make it look like London if it never was. (can't wait to see this 'explained' in the EC if the IT isn't true)

And what the hell was the purpose of the breath scene to begin with?

---

That's just a few. If Bioware does not confirm the IT with the EC, then they'll be getting a sh**load of questions from me about their 'artistic integrity'.

I am insulted if they expect me to accept the current endings. It goes against everything about the trilogy.

So yeah, if the IT isn't true, or at least strongly suggested to be in the EC, then Bioware and I will have to have a little talk. :mellow:


You might want to get tickets to SDCC then ;)


I won't be able to. But I seriously hope SOMEONE has the balls to stand up to them if the EC is s***. Dammit, I've had it with this. Honestly, if the IT isn't true then EVERYTHING we saw in the game was just coincidences? Accidental? Come f******* on. 

If the EC doesn't confirm the IT, then I hope some people at SDCC stand up to Bioware. We don't need to take the s*** that is the current endings. Seriously, its such crap.

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UrgentArchengel wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Maybe I overdid that. Tricky bioware making it look green when it's really not. Lol, silly gooses.


^_^

It could be a color optical illusion effect like this www.richferguson.com/same-color.html


As a forensics student, I've been tested on this stuff.  Oh well, no harm done.  And we're still speculating, debunking, and being constructive.  IT Thread=Win


Yay B)

#25709
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 I'm not being constructive. I'm about to lose it. 

Which means... bed time. :P

Modifié par Makrys, 23 juin 2012 - 09:43 .


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Makrys wrote...

 I'm not being constructive. I'm about to lose it. 

Which means... bed time. -_-


Yes, may be good to sleep on it. Good night ^_^

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Where's Liara when I need to snuggle, and she holds me and tells me its going to be alright? :(

Modifié par Makrys, 23 juin 2012 - 09:46 .


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Makrys wrote...

Merizan describes it mearly as an interpretation. That to me, pretty much says its not canon.

To which I say... WTF?

If IT isn't true, I have a list... a LIST... of things I will be asking them about.

Just a few:

What was up with Shepard's dreams? Why were there numerous indoctrination symptoms taking place if it didn't mean anything?

Why did we hear a Reaper 'growl' when Anderson interrupted Shepard with the child in the beginning? The same 'growl' that is described in one of the novels as what is heard when the Reaper's fail to maintain control over one of their subject's minds.

How the flying f*** did Shepard survive the Citadel explosion in Destroy? Did he just magically float down to Earth unharmed? Don't tell me that that rubble was the Citadel. It was concrete. Why the hell make it look like London if it never was. (can't wait to see this 'explained' in the EC if the IT isn't true)

And what the hell was the purpose of the breath scene to begin with?

---

That's just a few. If Bioware does not confirm the IT with the EC, then they'll be getting a sh**load of questions from me about their 'artistic integrity'.

I am insulted if they expect me to accept the current endings. They go entirely against the trilogy.

So yeah, if the IT isn't true, or at least strongly suggested to be in the EC, then Bioware and I will have to have a little talk. :mellow:


even IF shepard was on the citadel.

with an explosion of this magnitude

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you don't get this

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you get this




#25713
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Makrys wrote...

Where's Liara when I need to snuggle? :(


Lol. And her comforting voice... :)

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Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Where's Liara when I need to snuggle? :(


Lol. And her comforting voice... :)


See... now I'm going to cry.

I seriously wish she was real. Like, I could find a woman exactly like her. :crying:

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Makrys wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Where's Liara when I need to snuggle? :(


Lol. And her comforting voice... :)


See... now I'm going to cry.

I seriously wish she was real. Like, I could find a woman exactly like her. :crying:


Aw. Maybe watch some Liara cut scenes and get some sleep you! (try not to think about EC or you're just not going to be able to fall asleep lol)

Edit: Just not the one where she shows you the time capsule. I dunno why but that one always makes me so sad.

Modifié par Starbuck8, 23 juin 2012 - 09:53 .


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Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Where's Liara when I need to snuggle? :(


Lol. And her comforting voice... :)


See... now I'm going to cry.

I seriously wish she was real. Like, I could find a woman exactly like her. :crying:


Aw. Maybe watch some Liara cut scenes and get some sleep you! (try not to think about EC or you're just not going to be able to fall asleep lol)

Edit: Just not the one where she shows you the time capsule. I dunno why but that one always makes me so sad.


That time capsule scene is evidence for how Bioware can shine. That, and that poetic Krogan of which already a comic was created: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/12692532/1#12692532

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MaximizedAction wrote...

That time capsule scene is evidence for how Bioware can shine. That, and that poetic Krogan of which already a comic was created: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/12692532/1#12692532


Haha awww Charr...

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Makrys wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Merizan describes it mearly as an interpretation. That to me, pretty much says its not canon.

To which I say... WTF?

If IT isn't true, I have a list... a LIST... of things I will be asking them about.

Just a few:

What was up with Shepard's dreams? Why were there numerous indoctrination symptoms taking place if it didn't mean anything?

Why did we hear a Reaper 'growl' when Anderson interrupted Shepard with the child in the beginning? The same 'growl' that is described in one of the novels as what is heard when the Reaper's fail to maintain control over one of their subject's minds.

How the flying f*** did Shepard survive the Citadel explosion in Destroy? Did he just magically float down to Earth unharmed? Don't tell me that that rubble was the Citadel. It was concrete. Why the hell make it look like London if it never was. (can't wait to see this 'explained' in the EC if the IT isn't true)

And what the hell was the purpose of the breath scene to begin with?

---

That's just a few. If Bioware does not confirm the IT with the EC, then they'll be getting a sh**load of questions from me about their 'artistic integrity'.

I am insulted if they expect me to accept the current endings. It goes against everything about the trilogy.

So yeah, if the IT isn't true, or at least strongly suggested to be in the EC, then Bioware and I will have to have a little talk. :mellow:


You might want to get tickets to SDCC then ;)


I won't be able to. But I seriously hope SOMEONE has the balls to stand up to them if the EC is s***. Dammit, I've had it with this. Honestly, if the IT isn't true then EVERYTHING we saw in the game was just coincidences? Accidental? Come f******* on. 

If the EC doesn't confirm the IT, then I hope some people at SDCC stand up to Bioware. We don't need to take the s*** that is the current endings. Seriously, its such crap.


yeah it was excruciating watching the non-confrontational questions at pax, I mean, what the hell? If you're such big fans, ask the tough questions.

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Because when you're standing ten feet in front of real people who've put something together with heart and soul that both of you care deeply about, it's really hard to act like the raging blowhards most of us are on the internet.

That, and I think they screen questions.

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Since we're talking about ME3's quality parts.. imagine if the whole game was as good as Tuchanka

I can't even imagine that!

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I doesn't read the whole 1000 posts, but I know bout IT. So, my theory about is true or not is this:

After you beat the game, wathc the credtis then the Stargazer scene, after that you got a message to buy the coming DLCs to extend Shepard's story. Then the autosave put you back before attacking the Cerberus Base.

And this info is official from the FAQ:

What save game should I load to play the Extended Cut?

[SPOILERS] To experience the Extended Cut, load a save game from before the attack on the Cerberus Base and play through to the end of the game. The Extended Cut endings will differ depending on choices made throughout the Mass Effect series, so multiple playthroughs with a variety of different decisions will be required to experience the variety of possibilities offered by the new content.

#25722
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Makrys wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Where's Liara when I need to snuggle? :(


Lol. And her comforting voice... :)


See... now I'm going to cry.

I seriously wish she was real. Like, I could find a woman exactly like her. :crying:


Same here, bro.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Since we're talking about ME3's quality parts.. imagine if the whole game was as good as Tuchanka

I can't even imagine that!


*Imagines it* :o
Not that I think that most of the game wasn't awesome. But Tuchanka... ^_^
Lol well I think I'm gonna get to bed myself. Here's hoping the thread doesn't explode again before I log on tomorrow :P

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Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."

Yeah, the IT got never confirmed nor denied. But that's enough for me to believe in the IT.