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[Icinix]

RavenEyry wrote...

I thought the pistol was just narrative convenience the first time, but all this weirdness surrounding it makes it suspicious. I've recently begun to wonder just how you lost all your old guns. Since it's possible to be carrying up to five and they're nowhere to be seen after the beam, it kind of implies reaper death rays disintergrate guns. But not that carnifex that happens to be lying around where Shep falls, even though there aren't any bodies close.

Off-topic: Clint Eastwood would be great for Zaeed if they ever make those films they keep talking about.

The pistols (carnifex and predator) do have some symbology going on.

There is just a few times where it magically becomes one or the other - I've gone through the start of ME3 on three seperate characters in the last few hours, the mars mission clearly has assigned weapons on display in all the in game cinematics - except one point. After you have shot charging Eva. The gun is suddenly a Predator again. Its the only point the gun changes in a cutscene to something not equipped in the whole start.

Sure, it could just be one of those wacky things with game design, but its another case of the Predator making an appearance. The only change to other scenes is there is no alternative outcome - and its still the equipped gun with ammo mods you were using for the mars mission when you're shooting at her.

[RealStyli]

I read Parabolee77's blog on I.T.

I thought it was very good but no mention that some of us I.T. believers don't think the child at the start of ME3 is real? I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary that is convincing yet the signs are there to support the theory.

I'm in the camp that believes that Shep's indoctrination was escalated (if not initiated) during his/her exposure to Object Rho in the ME2 Arrival DLC. I replayed it recently with my FemShep playthrough and I felt during the battle for Object Rho that that was the case.

[MaximizedAction]

RealStyli wrote...

I read Parabolee77's blog on I.T.

I thought it was very good but no mention that some of us I.T. believers don't think the child at the start of ME3 is real? I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary that is convincing yet the signs are there to support the theory.

I'm in the camp that believes that Shep's indoctrination was escalated (if not initiated) during his/her exposure to Object Rho in the ME2 Arrival DLC. I replayed it recently with my FemShep playthrough and I felt during the battle for Object Rho that that was the case.

In defense of the blog: It's hard to give justice to all our 'hypothesis', especially if only one person is collecting them.
In reality, a full-fledged article on IT would need multiple authors.
We have many variaties of interpretations for single scenes like the kid on the roof. But my guess is that soon Parabolee77 will add this to the blog.

My take is, that since it doesn't make sense in a futuristic Vancouver to have jungle plants grow on the roof without someone eventually removing them, just as much as have dead trees in London.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 mai 2012 - 03:55 .

[Icinix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

I read Parabolee77's blog on I.T.

I thought it was very good but no mention that some of us I.T. believers don't think the child at the start of ME3 is real? I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary that is convincing yet the signs are there to support the theory.

I'm in the camp that believes that Shep's indoctrination was escalated (if not initiated) during his/her exposure to Object Rho in the ME2 Arrival DLC. I replayed it recently with my FemShep playthrough and I felt during the battle for Object Rho that that was the case.

In defense of the blog: It's hard to give justice to all our 'hypothesis', especially if only one person is collecting them.
In reality, a full-fledged article on IT would need multiple authors.
We have many variaties of interpretations for single scenes like the kid on the roof. But my guess is that soon Parabolee77 will add this to the blog.

My take is, that since it doesn't make sense in a futuristic Vancouver to have jungle plants grow on the roof without someone eventually removing them, just as much as have dead trees in London.

Yeah, and there are people like myself who think something like indoctrination is happening, but doesn't necessarily believe its not something else going on as well. Such as Cerberus trying to take control, or the Crucible testing Shepard in a philosophers stone type test.

[MaximizedAction]

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

I read Parabolee77's blog on I.T.

I thought it was very good but no mention that some of us I.T. believers don't think the child at the start of ME3 is real? I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary that is convincing yet the signs are there to support the theory.

I'm in the camp that believes that Shep's indoctrination was escalated (if not initiated) during his/her exposure to Object Rho in the ME2 Arrival DLC. I replayed it recently with my FemShep playthrough and I felt during the battle for Object Rho that that was the case.

In defense of the blog: It's hard to give justice to all our 'hypothesis', especially if only one person is collecting them.
In reality, a full-fledged article on IT would need multiple authors.
We have many variaties of interpretations for single scenes like the kid on the roof. But my guess is that soon Parabolee77 will add this to the blog.

My take is, that since it doesn't make sense in a futuristic Vancouver to have jungle plants grow on the roof without someone eventually removing them, just as much as have dead trees in London.

Yeah, and there are people like myself who think something like indoctrination is happening, but doesn't necessarily believe its not something else going on as well. Such as Cerberus trying to take control, or the Crucible testing Shepard in a philosophers stone type test.

Yep, and all seem logically justifyable.
Though from a statistical point of view, and the cosmological principle of mediocrity , why should our cycle be any different than all the previous once which likely had similar organizations and the Crucible built?
Why should our Cerberus suddenly have a real possibility of being a real opponent for the Reapers? There must've been many TIMs before our Jack Harper. Javik told about splitter groups. Cerberus is no different (I think).

Shepard must oppose the Reapers, not secondary anthagonists. That is the hero's story.

EDIT:
Come to think of it, due to there having been so many cycles that couldn't defeat the Reapers, there are only 2 logically satisfying explainations for why Shepard can dowhat 10k cycles couldn't:
a) Shepard must be at least equally special ("The chosen one" all over again).
By some lucky coincidence Shepard will encounter the off switch.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 mai 2012 - 04:16 .

[Rifneno]

Icinix wrote...
The pistols (carnifex and predator) do have some symbology going on.

There is just a few times where it magically becomes one or the other - I've gone through the start of ME3 on three seperate characters in the last few hours, the mars mission clearly has assigned weapons on display in all the in game cinematics - except one point. After you have shot charging Eva. The gun is suddenly a Predator again. Its the only point the gun changes in a cutscene to something not equipped in the whole start.

Sure, it could just be one of those wacky things with game design, but its another case of the Predator making an appearance. The only change to other scenes is there is no alternative outcome - and its still the equipped gun with ammo mods you were using for the mars mission when you're shooting at her.

Actually I think that's just a bug fix.  Originally when people got to that scene with a scorpion (via new game plus) they'd get stuck at that scene.  The scorpion doesn't do any damage on impact so Eva was impossible to damage.  So she'd always kill Shepard.  They probably just changed it so it always goes to a predator to avoid that in the first patch.

[Makrys]

Ya know... I'm just dropping in here to say that most of my fellow IT colleagues are not online right now... so I could really use some back up from any of you. Specifically here: http://social.biowar...ndex/12113600/7

Just need some reinforcements if anyone cares to help. I'm surrounded by people in that thread who just think I'm ludicrous for believing in IT. And usually I have a group behind me for support. But not at the moment. So, any troops ya'll could spare? I could use some aid fighting the battle on a different front. 

Modifié par Makrys, 18 mai 2012 - 04:23 .

[Icinix]

Rifneno wrote...

Icinix wrote...
The pistols (carnifex and predator) do have some symbology going on.

There is just a few times where it magically becomes one or the other - I've gone through the start of ME3 on three seperate characters in the last few hours, the mars mission clearly has assigned weapons on display in all the in game cinematics - except one point. After you have shot charging Eva. The gun is suddenly a Predator again. Its the only point the gun changes in a cutscene to something not equipped in the whole start.

Sure, it could just be one of those wacky things with game design, but its another case of the Predator making an appearance. The only change to other scenes is there is no alternative outcome - and its still the equipped gun with ammo mods you were using for the mars mission when you're shooting at her.

Actually I think that's just a bug fix.  Originally when people got to that scene with a scorpion (via new game plus) they'd get stuck at that scene.  The scorpion doesn't do any damage on impact so Eva was impossible to damage.  So she'd always kill Shepard.  They probably just changed it so it always goes to a predator to avoid that in the first patch.

Sorry, didn't explain that well, you still keep your regular gun in the firing sequence, complete with mods and ammo powers and whatever ammo count you went into the scene with. But it changes to the Predator in the cutscene section.

You can still fail because of your choice of weapon, ammo etc.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

I read Parabolee77's blog on I.T.

I thought it was very good but no mention that some of us I.T. believers don't think the child at the start of ME3 is real? I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary that is convincing yet the signs are there to support the theory.

I'm in the camp that believes that Shep's indoctrination was escalated (if not initiated) during his/her exposure to Object Rho in the ME2 Arrival DLC. I replayed it recently with my FemShep playthrough and I felt during the battle for Object Rho that that was the case.

In defense of the blog: It's hard to give justice to all our 'hypothesis', especially if only one person is collecting them.
In reality, a full-fledged article on IT would need multiple authors.
We have many variaties of interpretations for single scenes like the kid on the roof. But my guess is that soon Parabolee77 will add this to the blog.

My take is, that since it doesn't make sense in a futuristic Vancouver to have jungle plants grow on the roof without someone eventually removing them, just as much as have dead trees in London.

Yeah, and there are people like myself who think something like indoctrination is happening, but doesn't necessarily believe its not something else going on as well. Such as Cerberus trying to take control, or the Crucible testing Shepard in a philosophers stone type test.

Yep, and all seem logically justifyable.
Though from a statistical point of view, and the cosmological principle of mediocrity , why should our cycle be any different than all the previous once which likely had similar organizations and the Crucible built?
Why should our Cerberus suddenly have a real possibility of being a real opponent for the Reapers? There must've been many TIMs before our Jack Harper. Javik told about splitter groups. Cerberus is no different (I think).

Shepard must oppose the Reapers, not secondary anthagonists. That is the hero's story.

EDIT:
Come to think of it, due to there having been so many cycles that couldn't defeat the Reapers, there are only 2 logically satisfying explainations for why Shepard can dowhat 10k cycles couldn't:
a) Shepard must be at least equally special ("The chosen one" all over again).
By some lucky coincidence Shepard will encounter the off switch.

The reason this cycle stands a chance is partly because Shepard is special, there is no denying that. He is the kind of person others for thousand of years could only strive to be.

But this cycles chance also rests on the Protheans sacrifice. Ilos is what has given this cycle a chance, else it would have been the standard procedure all over again.

[Kaelef]

Answer: no

/thread

[Unschuld]

Makrys wrote...

Ya know... I'm just dropping in here to say that most of my fellow IT colleagues are not online right now... so I could really use some back up from any of you. Specifically here: http://social.biowar...ndex/12113600/7

Just need some reinforcements if anyone cares to help. I'm surrounded by people in that thread who just think I'm ludicrous for believing in IT. And usually I have a group behind me for support. But not at the moment. So, any troops ya'll could spare? I could use some aid fighting the battle on a different front. 

I'd say don't even bother. IsaacShep has turned into one of the most hypocritical people on this forums in my eyes. He had fun months ago playing the victim while protesting for m/m LI's in ME3, which I actually supported out of equality. Now that he's got what he wants, he's content with playing the opposite as an aggressor who tells everyone who has opposing ideas that they're flat-out wrong. I'd be content if he actually argued against IT, if it wasn't through obvious baiting threads and inflammitory "I'm right, you're wrong" posts.

Seboist is a Cerberus apologist with a TIM fetish who purely exists on these forums to complain about them becoming the big bad in the game, and to post pictures of himself actually stabbing copies of Dragon Age with a knife.

Just leave it be. He's not worth the effort.

At this point, that entire thread is like arguing against a brick wall.

Modifié par Unschuld, 18 mai 2012 - 04:36 .

[Stigweird85]

Makrys wrote...

Ya know... I'm just dropping in here to say that most of my fellow IT colleagues are not online right now... so I could really use some back up. Specifically here: http://social.biowar...ndex/12113600/7

Just need some reinforcements if anyone cares to help.

I've posted but tbh, I think it is futile. People have made up their own minds and arguing on either side is like hitting a brick wall. A few people are up for discussion most are not

I'm pretty much in the live and let live attitude at the moment. We don't know the answer, we may never know the answer.

[Makrys]

Yeah, thanks guys for the support. And as of now, I agree, Unschuld. It's rather pointless. So I'll probably remove myself from that thread. But still... it just freaking annoys me that the anti-IT crowd are so butthurt over anything that might prove them wrong. The IT crowd would probably respond with "Erm... oh well", if the EC disproves the IT. But if the IT were to be true, it seems the opposite crowd would be rioting in the streets. Pathetic. And most of them don't really even know what the IT is... which is actually funny.

Modifié par Makrys, 18 mai 2012 - 04:36 .

[IronSabbath88]

I really just wish they'd finish the EC soon. I'm honestly ready to bury this theory for the good or the bad. If we're able to say that IT was correct after all, awesome. If not, whatever, I'm just sick of the stupid bickering that's been going on.

I'm a fan of this trilogy and will continue to be regardless of how it ends. I just want it to be given the proper end.

[Unschuld]

Makrys wrote...

Yeah, thanks guys for the support. And as of now, I agree, Unschuld. It's rather pointless. So I'll probably remove myself from that thread. But still... it just freaking annoys me that the anti-IT crowd are so butthurt over anything that might prove them wrong. The IT crowd would probably respond with "Erm... oh well", if the EC disproves the IT. But if the IT were to be true, it seems the opposite crowd would be rioting in the streets. Pathetic. And most of them don't really even know what the IT is... which is actually funny.

The sad thing is, that's exactly how I see it happening either way. Even if IT was vindicated by the EC (with Bioware having it as their original plan), I guarantee you the people speaking so loudly against it would switch to "Bioware is lazy and just latched onto a ****ty fan idea" in order to save face that they were actually wrong. Talk about confirmation bias and conspiracy theories...

[Makrys]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I really just wish they'd finish the EC soon. I'm honestly ready to bury this theory for the good or the bad. If we're able to say that IT was correct after all, awesome. If not, whatever, I'm just sick of the stupid bickering that's been going on.

I'm a fan of this trilogy and will continue to be regardless of how it ends. I just want it to be given the proper end.

Amen. I agree with everything you said. That's exactly how I feel. As long as the ending respects the trilogy and gives it a proper end, then I'm fine with it. IT doesn't have to be true, but it would make the most sense. And I really don't know how they explain it without the IT. However, I just want a damn good ending. The trilogy deserves it, so deliver on it. That's all any of us are really asking.

[Unschuld]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I really just wish they'd finish the EC soon. I'm honestly ready to bury this theory for the good or the bad. If we're able to say that IT was correct after all, awesome. If not, whatever, I'm just sick of the stupid bickering that's been going on.

I'm a fan of this trilogy and will continue to be regardless of how it ends. I just want it to be given the proper end.

My thoughts exactly, except for the first part. As much as I think the bickering is a stupid waste of time, I think they [Bioware] should take as much time as they need to develope a quality product. I just wish I had a time machine to take me to that date.


Maybe I'll just leave the forums for a while and work on my Datsun.

[Icinix]

Unschuld wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I really just wish they'd finish the EC soon. I'm honestly ready to bury this theory for the good or the bad. If we're able to say that IT was correct after all, awesome. If not, whatever, I'm just sick of the stupid bickering that's been going on.

I'm a fan of this trilogy and will continue to be regardless of how it ends. I just want it to be given the proper end.

My thoughts exactly, except for the first part. As much as I think the bickering is a stupid waste of time, I think they [Bioware] should take as much time as they need to develope a quality product. I just wish I had a time machine to take me to that date.


Maybe I'll just leave the forums for a while and work on my Datsun.

..datsun?

That sounds awfully Australian of you.....

[IronSabbath88]

Unschuld wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I really just wish they'd finish the EC soon. I'm honestly ready to bury this theory for the good or the bad. If we're able to say that IT was correct after all, awesome. If not, whatever, I'm just sick of the stupid bickering that's been going on.

I'm a fan of this trilogy and will continue to be regardless of how it ends. I just want it to be given the proper end.

My thoughts exactly, except for the first part. As much as I think the bickering is a stupid waste of time, I think they [Bioware] should take as much time as they need to develope a quality product. I just wish I had a time machine to take me to that date.


Maybe I'll just leave the forums for a while and work on my Datsun.

Oh don't get me wrong, I definitely want them to take their time and make this perfect.

Regarding that statement you made about the anti people using their excuse of Bioware just "latching" onto the theory, you couldn't be any more right in that sense. A lot of these people are quite unpleasant.

[Unschuld]

Icinix wrote...

..datsun?

That sounds awfully Australian of you.....

Ha!

No, I live in one of the other "colonies".

Aussies weren't the only ones to get Datsuns, but they do have better access to proper engines for swapping.

[paxxton]

polor89 wrote...

Guys any news on the extended cut?

BioWare may reveal something at E3 next month.

[RavenEyry]

Unschuld wrote...
No, I live in one of the other "colonies".

Fawklands?

[Unschuld]

paxxton wrote...

polor89 wrote...

Guys any news on the extended cut?

BioWare may reveal something at E3 next month.

I don't expect anything more than a snippet. I kindof hope that it wouldn't ruin whatever comes next.

[Unschuld]

RavenEyry wrote...

Unschuld wrote...
No, I live in one of the other "colonies".

Fawklands?

Haha, no. Closer to 42* North.

[ArkkAngel007]

paxxton wrote...

polor89 wrote...

Guys any news on the extended cut?

BioWare may reveal something at E3 next month.

That would be my guess as well, though I haven't been following to see if any VO sessions have been taking place.  EA is already going to receive a fair bit of attention at E3 this year (Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, and MOH namely), so that would be the time to get the message out on what they are doing. 

They should show the absolute minimum though if they have anything to show.  I'd rather not feel like I've seen all of it before I play it (looking at you Prometheus!).

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 18 mai 2012 - 05:09 .