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FellishBeast wrote...

Ang3l o Xn6 wrote...

For the last time they're is NO IT, people want to believe it but they're wrong. end to the story 06/26


lol nice :lol:


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just a few more days ... i cant wait!

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They are is no IT? lolar

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Ang3l o Xn6 wrote...

For the last time they're is NO IT, people want to believe it but they're wrong. end to the story 06/26


oh, I take it you don't like IT, tell us more about how the current endings make sense :D

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.

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 Hey everyone. Just letting you guys know I'm still hard at work on the vid, and TurboJ is co-producing with me to make sure I get it out on time. It's coming along fairly well, and we seem to be on schedule for an early/midday Monday release.

PM me if you want/need to speak to me, because I'll be on BSN but I wont be checking the thread very often over the weekend.... 

For anyone cruising the thread, here is my current video and a teaser for the one coming out on Monday:

Sounds of Possession
Choose Wisely

The editing seems to be coming along quite nicely. Can't wait to see the finished vid Posted Image

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FellishBeast wrote...

It could still be genius without IT, but IT was the most likely. Maybe Shepard is seeing into the future. Hah.


No, it can't. There is no clarifications they can make that would make the literal interpretation decent, let alone genius. IT is the only way to salvage. The only way. Even most literalists will tell you the ending can't be salvaged. You can shine a turd all you want, it's still a turd. As for Shepard, they told us that ME3 was the end of Shepard's story. But then again they told us a lot of things.

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Reading Jessica's tweets, that is what I expect. But to me that's not so bad, considering it means that they just keep their secretive attitide they had going on for the last couple of months. Also, isn't a good twist worth setting back the expectations down?

To have Bruce Willis' character being dead a better twist, what would Shyamalan do? More hints for it or more hints against it?

We know, that they still have a lot of DLC planned. And their words remain: "We always had big plans"; "if you guys knew what we planned, the reaction would be different...". I don't think more scenes showing Hackett telling to fall back is the big surprise.


They also said it took decades to find out if Deckard was a replicant. Are you prepared to wait until 2035 to find out? Because I'm sure as hell not. The way I eat I'll probably be dead by then.

It may not be that bad to you, but to me it's a slap in the face. This game doesn't have an ending until they either outright kill IT, or outright confirm it and give us an ending with dead Reapers. I. Want. An. Ending. This was a five year build-up. Telling us to wait for answers and talking about replicants is an insult.

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Seriously ITers, Where is this defeatist attitude on display coming from? Am I too dense to realise the battle it over or is it that I've refused to listen to the speculation of the masses who know just as much as we do: Which is nothing by the way. Because last time I checked the only two things the BioWare blog, tweets and podcast have 100% confirmed is that the EC is coming out on the 26th and that it's a hefty 1.9GB in size... where does that say the IT couldn't be true? Where in Walters or Hudson PR double talk, padding and pandering do they actually say anything of substance?. As far I'm concerned it's still GAME ON!


It comes from Jessica Merizan, where else? She's given bad lore info before and she's a grandmaster at PR double-speak but there's no double-speak about "EC won't confirm or deny IT." That's a simple statement of fact. And I can't recall her outright lying to us before. This isn't a lore tidbit hidden in an optional, late-game dialogue like EDI's Reaper tech origins. This is major information about a major release that the whole community is abuzz about. So yes, it's worrying as hell.

That said, I haven't given up. In fact in IT itself my belief is as strong as ever. I'm sure IT is true. Where my faith wavers is in BioWare's intentions. How long do they intend to drag it out? What's their long term plan?

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Since we're talking about ME3's quality parts.. imagine if the whole game was as good as Tuchanka

I can't even imagine that!


Rannoch's storyline would've been as good if they had more Legion. :(

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They should have run with Arian's script. xD

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Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


But that inherently means no clarity or closure...

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StElmo wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


But that inherently means no clarity or closure...


It might mean clarity, but only in the form of more details as to what went down in those strange last moments of the game.

But yeah, we cant really have closure without confirming or denying IT.

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Rifneno wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

It could still be genius without IT, but IT was the most likely. Maybe Shepard is seeing into the future. Hah.


No, it can't. There is no clarifications they can make that would make the literal interpretation decent, let alone genius. IT is the only way to salvage. The only way. Even most literalists will tell you the ending can't be salvaged. You can shine a turd all you want, it's still a turd. As for Shepard, they told us that ME3 was the end of Shepard's story. But then again they told us a lot of things.


-_-

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I still believe IT is true. It just looks like Bioware still isn't going to confirm it. Then again, A whopping 1.9 Gigs is like 1/8 of the total game, so one has to wonder if all of that stuff is really going to leave everything ambiguous. It's hard to imagine.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


But that inherently means no clarity or closure...


It might mean clarity, but only in the form of more details as to what went down in those strange last moments of the game.

But yeah, we cant really have closure without confirming or denying IT.


Gosh freaking darnit! (excuse my language) Can't they not dick us around just for once? I'm so tired of not getting straight answers. Just tell me what's what so I can decide if I hate you or not.....uugh.

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Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


They've said that they're not going to deny it...
Show me where they've said they're not going to confirm it ;)

We'll see on tuesday, but still.

Was just playing some multiplayer - is it just me or does fighting Cerberus with a Reegar Carbine feel a bit like cheating? :whistle:

Modifié par TSA_383, 23 juin 2012 - 11:37 .


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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I still believe IT is true. It just looks like Bioware still isn't going to confirm it. Then again, A whopping 1.9 Gigs is like 1/8 of the total game, so one has to wonder if all of that stuff is really going to leave everything ambiguous. It's hard to imagine.


Actually it's 1/5.

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StElmo wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


But that inherently means no clarity or closure...


Not necessarily. I think it will provide clarity and closure to an extent.

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Corik wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I still believe IT is true. It just looks like Bioware still isn't going to confirm it. Then again, A whopping 1.9 Gigs is like 1/8 of the total game, so one has to wonder if all of that stuff is really going to leave everything ambiguous. It's hard to imagine.


Actually it's 1/5.


I think the more important stat is "25% larger than Lair of the Shadow Broker"...

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TSA_383 wrote...

Corik wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I still believe IT is true. It just looks like Bioware still isn't going to confirm it. Then again, A whopping 1.9 Gigs is like 1/8 of the total game, so one has to wonder if all of that stuff is really going to leave everything ambiguous. It's hard to imagine.


Actually it's 1/5.


I think the more important stat is "25% larger than Lair of the Shadow Broker"...


But size isn't everything... you need firepower too.

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Corik wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Corik wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I still believe IT is true. It just looks like Bioware still isn't going to confirm it. Then again, A whopping 1.9 Gigs is like 1/8 of the total game, so one has to wonder if all of that stuff is really going to leave everything ambiguous. It's hard to imagine.


Actually it's 1/5.


I think the more important stat is "25% larger than Lair of the Shadow Broker"...


But size isn't everything... you need firepower too.

Ahh i see you have a tiny gun..
nahh im just joshing you Posted Image but yes you are correct.
But still, seeing as the EC is 1/6 of the size of the full game should tell you there is more than what has been said Posted Image

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Silent Rogue wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Silent Rogue wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and

twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216323581741760512
"we made it clear at PAX East we weren't going to be perscriptive about IT. If you believe in IT the EC shouldn't change that."


Damn. It seems a bit obvious now that they will neither deny nor confirm IT in the EC. I think they're trying to please both parties - those that like the endings as they are (can't see how, tho) and those that don't and really like IT. If so it's not the way to go. Absolutely not. It will be like the Shepard's breathes scene viewed as an easter egg - showing they're not commited to face facts.


But that inherently means no clarity or closure...


Not necessarily. I think it will provide clarity and closure to an extent.


Sorry to pick you up on this, but where were the words "to an extent" in the press release?

Just sayin.

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Well, the size might sound like more than it is. I mean, think of all the different cutscenes they had to create for it, with a lot of different variables. I think cutscenes take up a lot of space. And it will definately have a lot more than a "normal" DLC.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, the size might sound like more than it is. I mean, think of all the different cutscenes they had to create for it, with a lot of different variables. I think cutscenes take up a lot of space. And it will definately have a lot more than a "normal" DLC.


FMVs (for scenes that ickle consoles can't render due to their aged hardware) are what takes up the space, every other cutscene is a few MB, tops.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, the size might sound like more than it is. I mean, think of all the different cutscenes they had to create for it, with a lot of different variables. I think cutscenes take up a lot of space. And it will definately have a lot more than a "normal" DLC.

Yeah but think about it;
look at how many variations are in the game altogether. now look at the EC which is 1/6 the size of the entire game. Im no expert but i dont think that all that data can just be a bunch of variations Posted Image

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, the size might sound like more than it is. I mean, think of all the different cutscenes they had to create for it, with a lot of different variables. I think cutscenes take up a lot of space. And it will definately have a lot more than a "normal" DLC.


It depends upon the type.  Pre-rendered FMV's are extremely high in size.  Normal cutscenes that are locally rendered are very small, mostly the size of the audio.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, the size might sound like more than it is. I mean, think of all the different cutscenes they had to create for it, with a lot of different variables. I think cutscenes take up a lot of space. And it will definately have a lot more than a "normal" DLC.


Yes. Most of the size will be cinematics. Gameplay takes very little space.