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[HellishFiend]

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

[Sero303]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

polor89 wrote...

Guys any news on the extended cut?

BioWare may reveal something at E3 next month.

That would be my guess as well, though I haven't been following to see if any VO sessions have been taking place.  EA is already going to receive a fair bit of attention at E3 this year (Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, and MOH namely), so that would be the time to get the message out on what they are doing. 

They should show the absolute minimum though if they have anything to show.  I'd rather not feel like I've seen all of it before I play it (looking at you Prometheus!).

I'm the same way, I refused to allow my wife, to progress further in the game then me, simply because I don't want to know what is going to happen,..before it happens? It's funny you mention promethues, we all saw the trailers,... but I have a feeling that there is so much more to see, ... let's just hope they don't the extended cut dlc...

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Those are vibrations caused by the Reaper's voice. It's the same thing that causes walls to shake when someone listens to very loud music.

I didn't notice the Reaper's eye lit up after it goes off-line. If you mean the moment it talks with Shepard, it's just for show.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 05:41 .

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Those are vibrations caused by the Reaper's voice. It's the same thing that causes walls to shake when someone listens to very loud music.

I dunno, I still feel its quite likely (maybe definite, even), that the Rannoch reaper is emitting indoctrination signals during that sequence. I also think he is just spewing garbage about preserving organics to set Shepard up for the indoctrination sequence at the end. I find it hard to believe that Bioware would retcon/trivialize the Sovereign dialog in ME1 by changing the Reaper's motivations right at the end. 

[blooregard]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Those are vibrations caused by the Reaper's voice. It's the same thing that causes walls to shake when someone listens to very loud music.

I dunno, I still feel its quite likely (maybe definite, even), that the Rannoch reaper is emitting indoctrination signals during that sequence. I also think he is just spewing garbage about preserving organics to set Shepard up for the indoctrination sequence at the end. I find it hard to believe that Bioware would retcon/trivialize the Sovereign dialog in ME1 by changing the Reaper's motivations right at the end. 

N...Nooo it is not a thing you can comprehend.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Those are vibrations caused by the Reaper's voice. It's the same thing that causes walls to shake when someone listens to very loud music.

I dunno, I still feel its quite likely (maybe definite, even), that the Rannoch reaper is emitting indoctrination signals during that sequence. I also think he is just spewing garbage about preserving organics to set Shepard up for the indoctrination sequence at the end. I find it hard to believe that Bioware would retcon/trivialize the Sovereign dialog in ME1 by changing the Reaper's motivations right at the end. 

It might be that the Reaper's voice signal has an indoctrinational component intertwined. On the other hand, it would be strange if no Reaper during the whole game said anything so the devs just chose this one.

Btw, there aren't many Reapers to defeat in ME3 which is a wasted gameplay opportunity.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 05:49 .

[paxxton]

blooregard wrote...

N...Nooo it is not a thing you can comprehend.

No no no no

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 05:54 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Those are vibrations caused by the Reaper's voice. It's the same thing that causes walls to shake when someone listens to very loud music.

I dunno, I still feel its quite likely (maybe definite, even), that the Rannoch reaper is emitting indoctrination signals during that sequence. I also think he is just spewing garbage about preserving organics to set Shepard up for the indoctrination sequence at the end. I find it hard to believe that Bioware would retcon/trivialize the Sovereign dialog in ME1 by changing the Reaper's motivations right at the end. 

It might be that the Reaper's voice signal has an indoctrinational component intertwined. On the other hand, it would be strange if no Reaper during the whole game said anything so the devs just chose this one.

Btw, there aren't many Reapers to defeat in ME3 which is a wasted gameplay opportunity.

No I would not agree. Too many dead Reaper would make them feel less threatening. By just having three of them and all of them beeing smaller Reapers and requireing extreme meaures (except for the last one) they dont ruin the dread that follows them.

Still I would not have minded a showdown with Harbinger...fingers crossed for EC.

[paxxton]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Btw, there aren't many Reapers to defeat in ME3 which is a wasted gameplay opportunity.

No I would not agree. Too many dead Reaper would make them feel less threatening. By just having three of them and all of them beeing smaller Reapers and requireing extreme meaures (except for the last one) they dont ruin the dread that follows them.

Still I would not have minded a showdown with Harbinger...fingers crossed for EC.

OK, so at least more cinematics where the fleets destroy capital ships or are wiped out by them.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 06:10 .

[DJBare]

Just to clear up something

They both graduated as medical doctors, having been married to a senior psychiatric nurse I can tell you medical doctors have a great deal of contact with psychiatric doctors, they need to especially when medically treating people with psychiatric problems, they have all the information they need to play a mind game.

[delldo]

DJBare wrote...

Just to clear up something

They both graduated as medical doctors, having been married to a senior psychiatric nurse I can tell you medical doctors have a great deal of contact with psychiatric doctors, they need to especially when medically treating people with psychiatric problems, they have all the information they need to play a mind game.

[paxxton]

DJBare wrote...

Just to clear up something

They both graduated as medical doctors, having been married to a senior psychiatric nurse I can tell you medical doctors have a great deal of contact with psychiatric doctors, they need to especially when medically treating people with psychiatric problems, they have all the information they need to play a mind game.

Computer games and psychiatry - a perfect mixture.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 06:15 .

[Tirian Thorn]

DJBare wrote...

Just to clear up something

They both graduated as medical doctors, having been married to a senior psychiatric nurse I can tell you medical doctors have a great deal of contact with psychiatric doctors, they need to especially when medically treating people with psychiatric problems, they have all the information they need to play a mind game.

"Clearly"  Bioware is lazy.       

/end sarcasm

[RavenEyry]

I don't think Ray and Greg had any direct involvement, but I don't think they'd be against a mind screw.

[ArkkAngel007]

Sero303 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

polor89 wrote...

Guys any news on the extended cut?

BioWare may reveal something at E3 next month.

That would be my guess as well, though I haven't been following to see if any VO sessions have been taking place.  EA is already going to receive a fair bit of attention at E3 this year (Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, and MOH namely), so that would be the time to get the message out on what they are doing. 

They should show the absolute minimum though if they have anything to show.  I'd rather not feel like I've seen all of it before I play it (looking at you Prometheus!).

I'm the same way, I refused to allow my wife, to progress further in the game then me, simply because I don't want to know what is going to happen,..before it happens? It's funny you mention promethues, we all saw the trailers,... but I have a feeling that there is so much more to see, ... let's just hope they don't the extended cut dlc...

There is more to Prometheus, but there are so many major moments in the trailers that it seems that they have to show too much to get people interested in it.  Which seems odd to me. 

Unfortunantly, I was right on the frontlines regarding the script leak, so ME3 was fairly spoiled; though to me it's all about the experience that makes the magic happen, not the knowledge.  But I'd rather be surprised this time around regarding the EC.  If it's just cutscenes explaining the ending, fine, then I'll either finish my abandoned playthrough or YouTube it.  If it's more than that though...well, I'd rather see most of it on my playthrough and not in some overdramatic action trailer.

^I didn't know about that DJ.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 18 mai 2012 - 06:18 .

[GethPrimeMKII]

Slightly off topic but what happened to that "Pro-Ender compendium" thread from a few weeks ago?

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

 Hey all. I've been gone for a few days so I have a lot of catching up to do. In the meantime I wanted to bring up a new topic: the Rannoch Reaper.

Has anyone noticed how the camera pulses? At first I thought it was a glitch, but it seems to be deliberate. I'm thinking it could be infrasonic noise. As we know, infrasonic noise is below the range of hearing, but can be FELT subconsciously and as a vibration. Indoctrination signals?

Also, I've noticed that the Reaper's red eye stays lit even though he is supposedly dead, AND the camera angle shows it a lot during the ensuing geth/quarian peace/war cutscenes.

Thoughts, anyone?

Good to have you back!

My thoughts: Looking forward to replaying Rannoch tonight!

But the thing with the lit eye: I was quite disappointed by Thane still moving his eyeballs after he died - or at least I think he died. I know, it's probably the engine that causes all NPC to have a random eye movement for realism, which is cool, but killed the credibility of that particular scene.
While this is probably hard to deactivate manually, I think there were moments in ME3 where red Reaper eyes went on. So the reverse should've been possible, too.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 mai 2012 - 06:19 .

[ArkkAngel007]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Slightly off topic but what happened to that "Pro-Ender compendium" thread from a few weeks ago?

Wasn't around for that (slumming it in the friendlier multiplayer discussions).  Was it some sort of list of people who like the ending as is or a collection of reasons why they liked the endings (both perhaps)?

[DJBare]

RavenEyry wrote...

I don't think Ray and Greg had any direct involvement, but I don't think they'd be against a mind screw.

I don't know if the had direct involvement, but they are certainly in a position to be consulted.

[balance5050]

 What do you guys make of this interview that talks with Hacket's VA about the EC:

http://www.g4tv.com/...ending-content/ 

The end of the game is losing?

[Makrys]

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this interview that talks with Hacket's VA about the EC:

http://www.g4tv.com/...ending-content/ 

The end of the game is losing?

I was JUST about to post about that. I thought it was interesting. It sounds like if you chose synthesis or control, you DID lose, ie. gave into indoctrination so the game ends. So it sounds like they're giving a little epilogue scene, or expanding on what happens if you 'lose' to indoctrination. That's what I'm thinking anyway.

[GethPrimeMKII]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Slightly off topic but what happened to that "Pro-Ender compendium" thread from a few weeks ago?

Wasn't around for that (slumming it in the friendlier multiplayer discussions).  Was it some sort of list of people who like the ending as is or a collection of reasons why they liked the endings (both perhaps)?

It was a thread with a list of several links containing supposedly irrefutable evidence supporting the face value ending and disproving IT. An entertaining thread if one is looking for a good laugh.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 18 mai 2012 - 06:26 .

[ArkkAngel007]

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this interview that talks with Hacket's VA about the EC:

http://www.g4tv.com/...ending-content/ 

The end of the game is losing?

That may be more in the context of how people felt about the ending, that no matter what they were losing due to the loss of the Relays and the crash of the Normandy (not to mention Shepard's "death").  I can see where all three of them can fit in the endings if they are taken literally and are only extended.  Hackett calling the retreat, EDI maybe arguing with Joker or giving a report on the energy wave, and the VS giving a ground report.

With devil's advocate out of the way, I hope it's a sign that they are doing more than just a handful of cutscenes.

^Oh, so it was one of those threads.  People need to grow up and get a life outside of this game.  Maybe we are putting a lot of thought in this theory, but it's something we do on the side.  These people who complain on how they got physically sick from the endings or get really offended/throw tantrums about lore or whatever...they either need to go find something else to occupy their mind for a while, or they need to get psychological help.  Sorry if that's offensive to anyone, but it just seems unhealthy when it's to that degree.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 18 mai 2012 - 06:29 .

[MaximizedAction]

Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this interview that talks with Hacket's VA about the EC:

http://www.g4tv.com/...ending-content/ 

The end of the game is losing?

I was JUST about to post about that. I thought it was interesting. It sounds like if you chose synthesis or control, you DID lose, ie. gave into indoctrination so the game ends. So it sounds like they're giving a little epilogue scene, or expanding on what happens if you 'lose' to indoctrination. That's what I'm thinking anyway.

Yes, my first thought was, too, "Is he talking about Control/Synthesis?"

But I guess they will have to add something to Destroy, too, or this forum goes beserk, even we won't be save here.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this interview that talks with Hacket's VA about the EC:

http://www.g4tv.com/...ending-content/ 

The end of the game is losing?

"When the player or if the player loses or gets killed it's too abrubt."

The game ending abruplty is certainly true. Now if Shepard loses or gets killed during any part of the game, the game loads the last checkpoint if the player chooses. I honestly don't think he knows or understands how the ending really went down in the game.