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Hi folks - Anything besides arguments and the wailing and gnashing of teeth been going on today?

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yeah, hi guys.

i just saw the news about the dlc date and i knew it was time to return.

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BansheeOwnage

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Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 23 juin 2012 - 06:20 .


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Dwailing

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?


May I direct you to this page? https://docs.google....?pli=1&sle=true 

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GethPrimeMKII

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?


I personally haven't read it. I hear it contradicts the lore badly.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?

1. As A STORY ...It makes no sense. You lituratly end the book asking what was the point.
2.It ignores and makes multiple errors of the lore.
3.It has thing in it that makes you question to writer point at all or if he understoood the character or evern seriously though out the actions of the characters.


It's basicly written by someone who nows nothing about the story, lore, or character of ME and the ME books.
It's that bad...So bad that fans made an abriged version just to make fun of it.

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Big Bad wrote...

Hi folks - Anything besides arguments and the wailing and gnashing of teeth been going on today?


Nothing just troll's and IT fans breaking havick everywhere. But it's come here but it's died down for know.

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zambot wrote...

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I expected it to be a decendant of Aang, since to my limited knowledge, was the only one who know how to remove bending.


Don't feel bad.  I guessed the same thing.  


I feel better now.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


Thanks for the recommendation. Which book do you consider the best in terms of plot and style?

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I think it's time to call all IT supporters and IT believers back to the main site.

"LOTR- The beacon the beacon of Alderamin is lit.
Help is coming"

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?


I personally haven't read it. I hear it contradicts the lore badly.

Never read the book.....Read the rage comic instead...And what the rage comic says is all true...http://imgur.com/a/lAVji#0

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So byne what do we do on Monday do we just talk about II and the EC or do we say goodbye.

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SubAstris wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


Thanks for the recommendation. Which book do you consider the best in terms of plot and style?

ME:RETRIBUTION... 

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SubAstris

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


You're still downplaying the importance of the books and comics though. 


If information from the game directly contradicts something from the comics, playing the game, the former must take precedence


With the exception of Mass Effect Deception, nothing from the books or comics contradict the game's story. 


In regard to the comic that says that Shepard destroyed the Batarian Mass Relay, and the game in which it depends on your Shepard, then yes it does contradict

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masster blaster wrote...

So byne what do we do on Monday do we just talk about II and the EC or do we say goodbye.


I dont see why we'd say goodbye. If the EC neither confirms nor denies IT as Merizan seems to be saying, we can still speculate to our hearts' content.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So byne what do we do on Monday do we just talk about II and the EC or do we say goodbye.


I dont see why we'd say goodbye. If the EC neither confirms nor denies IT as Merizan seems to be saying, we can still speculate to our hearts' content.


Fine I will give you that but if IT comes true...

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Thanks.

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GethPrimeMKII

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SubAstris wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


Thanks for the recommendation. Which book do you consider the best in terms of plot and style?


I personally liked Mass Effect Revelations the most, because Saren is one of my favorite villians in Mass Effect. The book does a wonderful job of showing you just how evil and sadistic Saren is, even before he starts wreaking havoc with the geth. 

Revelations takes place before Mass Effect 1. The next book, Ascension, takes place after Mass Effect 1 and after Sheps death. Retribution takes place after Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 23 juin 2012 - 06:43 .


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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So byne what do we do on Monday do we just talk about II and the EC or do we say goodbye.


I dont see why we'd say goodbye. If the EC neither confirms nor denies IT as Merizan seems to be saying, we can still speculate to our hearts' content.


your going to waste time speculating because they throw you a cheap bone by not denying it?

no offense, but PR has you wrapped around their little finger. They want ITers to just deal any plotholes by attributing it to the theory, thus escaping all responsiblity to patch the game's plot IT or not.

At least, thats my speculation.

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StElmo wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So byne what do we do on Monday do we just talk about II and the EC or do we say goodbye.


I dont see why we'd say goodbye. If the EC neither confirms nor denies IT as Merizan seems to be saying, we can still speculate to our hearts' content.


your going to waste time speculating because they throw you a cheap bone by not denying it?

no offense, but PR has you wrapped around their little finger. They want ITers to just deal any plotholes by attributing it to the theory, thus escaping all responsiblity to patch the game's plot IT or not.

At least, thats my speculation.


IT or not, after the EC they arent going to fix any remaining plotholes anyways, so I dont see your point.

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Thanks for the suggestions, maybe I will take a look at the books...

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GethPrimeMKII

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SubAstris wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


You're still downplaying the importance of the books and comics though. 


If information from the game directly contradicts something from the comics, playing the game, the former must take precedence


With the exception of Mass Effect Deception, nothing from the books or comics contradict the game's story. 


In regard to the comic that says that Shepard destroyed the Batarian Mass Relay, and the game in which it depends on your Shepard, then yes it does contradict



Regardless the events of Arrival are canon as stated by the game creators themselves. Those who opt not to do Arrival (Why would you deprive yourself of such awesome DLC?) are not playing a completely canon storyline. Also, where are you coming up with this heirarchy that says the game trumps the books/comics? I challange you to read the books and comics and come back and tell me they do not add to your understanding of Mass Effect as a whole. 

P.S. You might learn a thing or two about indoctrination from reading.

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dreman9999 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


Mainly because I don't think the books  would be that good, especially having heard the comments about the latest one, but I think that's beside the point. Also, I'm not really a comics person


You're missing out then. You wont understand how certain events within the game came to be without reading the books and comics. You don't have anything to lose by reading them. You can ignore Mass Effect Deception if you wish, because it considered noncanon by the author. 


I would STRONGLY recommend skipping Deception.  That book, put quite bluntly, sucks.

What's the deal with Deception anyway?

1. As A STORY ...It makes no sense. You lituratly end the book asking what was the point.
2.It ignores and makes multiple errors of the lore.
3.It has thing in it that makes you question to writer point at all or if he understoood the character or evern seriously though out the actions of the characters.


It's basicly written by someone who nows nothing about the story, lore, or character of ME and the ME books.
It's that bad...So bad that fans made an abriged version just to make fun of it.


Almost like a certain video game ending (at face value), huh? ;)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 23 juin 2012 - 06:49 .


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I hope they explain how Shepard survives the Citadel blowing up and crash landing on earth...

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Effectively we are either going to be right or wrong come Tuesday, leaving room for interpretation won't be sufficient for me, if we are proven wrong then I'm going to have a ton of questions regarding all the evidence and clues that we have gathered. For me at least, after Tuesday the time for speculation is over.