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[MegaSovereign]

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...


Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:


3) Keep the Citadel intact

Funny you should mention that.  Remember how in Control the Citadel leaves with the Reapers, presumably for dark space (Or somewhere else far away.)?  Well, think about this for a sec: what going to happen to all the people on the Citadel?  It seems doubtful that the Citadel could be completely self-sufficient, considering that the war had already strained supplies.  If the Reapers and the Citadel are gone for good, then Shepard doomed all those people to a slow and painful death.

What? The Citadel does not leave with the Reapers. The only thing it does after the Control ending is close back up.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 24 juin 2012 - 01:52 .

[Dwailing]

OdanUrr wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

But instead i got  bull****, couldn't believe myself and after the three paths opened started walking towards destroy, stopped to consider synthesis because it sounded a bit like what Adam Jensen was, then started looking for a fourth option.

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

[Dwailing]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...


Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:


3) Keep the Citadel intact

Funny you should mention that.  Remember how in Control the Citadel leaves with the Reapers, presumably for dark space (Or somewhere else far away.)?  Well, think about this for a sec: what going to happen to all the people on the Citadel?  It seems doubtful that the Citadel could be completely self-sufficient, considering that the war had already strained supplies.  If the Reapers and the Citadel are gone for good, then Shepard doomed all those people to a slow and painful death.

What? The Citadel does not leave with the Reapers. The only thing it does after the Control ending is close back up.

Let me look again.  Give me one minute.

[BatmanTurian]

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding on to my last post:

Controlling the Reapers is an unethical means to win the war. But the series is plagued with examples of how this is not necessarily a bad thing. A big one is how Mordin used Maelon's data to extract a cure to the genophage, despite the fact that the cure had unethical means.

After playing through Horizon, the idea of control being a viable option became clear. There are so many parallels between Horizon and Maelon's data that it's crazy.

Soooo.... then control is actually Renagade.

Could be viewed that way. It's the practical/unethical approach. Kind of like keeping the Collector base.

unethical isn't necessarily practical.

Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:

1) End the War

2) Keep your synthetic allies alive

3) Keep the Citadel intact

You really do sound like TIM. Just as Ieldra sounds like Saren.

TIM doesn't give a **** about saving anything that isn't human. If he took control he'd use them to secure human dominance.


I hope that comment was a joke.

It was... I forgot the smilie. You're friendly, we just disagree.

[TJBartlemus]

Lokanaiya wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Jackal13th wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

hay i am in high school and i play mass effect and I understand what I talk about some times.

if you are in high school and want to talk about mass effect it start a thred and start the chat i have beenn platying mass effect sence it first came out . still..but thats is a deferant topic .

Good God!!! Do all High Schooler's now have a horrible grasp of the English language??? I thought it was just Masster Blaster... *sigh*

I'm in high school, and all of my posts have been gramatically correct and puncuated correctly, barring the occasional typo, of course. Just thought I'd point that out.

Just as a general statement...I meant nothing negative. (It was just a way to root out those of us who are high schooler's) Bwhahahaha!!! (That was a joke....)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 24 juin 2012 - 01:58 .

[llbountyhunter]

Dwailing wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

But instead i got  bull****, couldn't believe myself and after the three paths opened started walking towards destroy, stopped to consider synthesis because it sounded a bit like what Adam Jensen was, then started looking for a fourth option.

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

The difference is that in deus ex trashumanism enhances diversity and growth

And synthesis opposes both.


Although i chose the left corridor in deus..

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 24 juin 2012 - 01:58 .

[Dwailing]

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...


Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:


3) Keep the Citadel intact

Funny you should mention that.  Remember how in Control the Citadel leaves with the Reapers, presumably for dark space (Or somewhere else far away.)?  Well, think about this for a sec: what going to happen to all the people on the Citadel?  It seems doubtful that the Citadel could be completely self-sufficient, considering that the war had already strained supplies.  If the Reapers and the Citadel are gone for good, then Shepard doomed all those people to a slow and painful death.

What? The Citadel does not leave with the Reapers. The only thing it does after the Control ending is close back up.

Let me look again.  Give me one minute.

You're right, you don't actually SEE it leave.  However, when I thought about it after seeing it, it kind of looked, to me anyway, like it was going to leave with the Reapers.

[Dwailing]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Emiya_Archer wrote...

But instead i got  bull****, couldn't believe myself and after the three paths opened started walking towards destroy, stopped to consider synthesis because it sounded a bit like what Adam Jensen was, then started looking for a fourth option.

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

The difference is that in deus ex trashumanism enhances diversity and growth

And synthesis opposes both.

*Anderson Voice* Exactly.

[BatmanTurian]

Dwailing wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...


Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:


3) Keep the Citadel intact

Funny you should mention that.  Remember how in Control the Citadel leaves with the Reapers, presumably for dark space (Or somewhere else far away.)?  Well, think about this for a sec: what going to happen to all the people on the Citadel?  It seems doubtful that the Citadel could be completely self-sufficient, considering that the war had already strained supplies.  If the Reapers and the Citadel are gone for good, then Shepard doomed all those people to a slow and painful death.

What? The Citadel does not leave with the Reapers. The only thing it does after the Control ending is close back up.

Let me look again.  Give me one minute.

You're right, you don't actually SEE it leave.  However, when I thought about it after seeing it, it kind of looked, to me anyway, like it was going to leave with the Reapers.

It does close, which is... interesting.

[MegaSovereign]

BatmanTurian wrote...
It was... I forgot the smilie. You're friendly, we just disagree.

TIM is my favorite character. So I took it as a half complement/half insult.

[OdanUrr]

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

[MegaSovereign]

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

But think of the free wi-fi!

[FellishBeast]

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you play FemShep?

[Dwailing]

Funny, I just noticed that the "Catalyst" is identified as Child in the subtitles.

[BatmanTurian]

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

Circuitry grafted throughout your body and organs replaced by tech all in an instant sounds painful actually.

[BatmanTurian]

MegaSovereign wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

But think of the free wi-fi!

ME universe already has a free Extranet. lol.

[llbountyhunter]

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you chose the left corridor as well?

[OdanUrr]

FellishBeast wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you play FemShep?

I played both though I'm not entirely certain what prompted you to ask such a question.

[FellishBeast]

OdanUrr wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you play FemShep?

I played both though I'm not entirely certain what prompted you to ask such a question.

[MegaSovereign]

Dwailing wrote...

Funny, I just noticed that the "Catalyst" is identified as Child in the subtitles.

The subtitles is trolling us.

It was like that with the Geth VI replacement of Legion.

"Legion: We are not Legion."

[OdanUrr]

llbountyhunter wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you chose the left corridor as well?

I chose all three. Ironically, my first choice was Synthesis, but that was because I couldn't find that ending on YouTube and I wanted to see if there was any difference between it and the other two. Imagine my surprise.<_<

[masster blaster]

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding on to my last post:

Controlling the Reapers is an unethical means to win the war. But the series is plagued with examples of how this is not necessarily a bad thing. A big one is how Mordin used Maelon's data to extract a cure to the genophage, despite the fact that the cure had unethical means.

After playing through Horizon, the idea of control being a viable option became clear. There are so many parallels between Horizon and Maelon's data that it's crazy.

Soooo.... then control is actually Renagade.

Could be viewed that way. It's the practical/unethical approach. Kind of like keeping the Collector base.

unethical isn't necessarily practical.

Ofcourse, but Controlling the Reapers is practical if it means that you can:

1) End the War

2) Keep your synthetic allies alive

3) Keep the Citadel intact

So we think we can control them but remember each Reaper is independent and they beleive that their was are right no matter who you are, and the Starbrat smiles when you pick Control.

[Iconoclaste]

TJBartlemus wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

Where does it state that the Catalyst created himself or the cycle? <---Entirely non-rhetorical. If someone created him, then yes, he would be like a reaper. But that would mean that there was someone (or even a group of beings), at some point, that created the Catalyst and the reapers to fulfill a role that became obsolete once the cycle was over.

I've got a question for YOU. Or maybe questions... (Not anyone else, just thisisme8) Do you believe the star child as real? And if you do, can you explain to me on the fact that if the Citadel is his home, why did Sovereign need to access the Citadel to open the relay? The only reason the relay wouldn't activate was because the Protheans disabled the device that signals from outside to the keepers for them to activate it. If the star child was always there, why can't he do it himself? It makes me wonder what his real purpose is there for if he can't do anything...

The answer to your question is in your question : the Protheans disabled the signaling capability of the "device". If Starkid had the capacity to "enable" this device back, he could have done so. Seems like he couldn"t, hinting to the possibility that the Protheans did more than just a "software" modification.

[llbountyhunter]

OdanUrr wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'll admit, I don't oppose transhumanism.  However, I completely disagree with Synthesis.  Like one guy put it, it's raping the entire galaxy.

I don't think any man should make such a choice on behalf of the entire galaxy.

I'm guessing you chose the left corridor as well?

I chose all three. Ironically, my first choice was Synthesis, but that was because I couldn't find that ending on YouTube and I wanted to see if there was any difference between it and the other two. Imagine my surprise.<_<

Lol yeah..... but was talking about deus ex... you know... the left hallway.

[Vaya]

thisisme8 wrote...

Where does it state that the Catalyst created himself or the cycle?  <---Entirely non-rhetorical.  If someone created him, then yes, he would be like a reaper.  But that would mean that there was someone (or even a group of beings), at some point, that created the Catalyst and the reapers to fulfill a role that became obsolete once the cycle was over.

the star child flat out states

"we created the cycle so that never happens"

about a minute into the conversation