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[Arian Dynas]

So yeah, pretty blah.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I kinda don't want it to come, actually. I'd miss all you guys terribly. 

Well, I'll be gone from these forums for a very long time, IT or not, and it'll probably not be IT, so yeah.

I think I'll first return here in 3 months, if I'm willing. I'll just have to see.

*THUMP* That's for doubting. Things will go well, cheer up.

*THUMP* That's for leaving, YOU WILL COME SEE US! I DEMAND IT!

And since all of you guys are good friends, and since I get enough spambots anyway, you can all reach me via IM or MSN at ariandynas at hotmail dot com, which is also my electronic mail adress.

And yes, if you are wondering why I typed that out, just because I get spambots already doesn't mean I want more.

I'll be gone because I'll be in the USA by wednesday. I'll probably have just enough time to finish the EC before going.

What difference does it make if you're stateside or not?

No laptops.

I'm visiting my grandparents in Idaho, and they've not got any computers.

Plus, I want to spend the vacation together with my brother and sister, so I wouldn't  have a lot of time to be here anyway.

[Andromidius]

Well that's fair enough. Hopefully there will be something awesome waiting for you when you get back.

[estebanus]

Andromidius wrote...

Well that's fair enough. Hopefully there will be something awesome waiting for you when you get back.

Hopefully...

[Arian Dynas]

Agreed.

And as I said, I am not cutting you guys out, so send me IMs, IMs everywhere damnit.

ariandynas at hotmail dot com.

[Salient Archer]

Hmm, I've been working on my insane play through in preparation for the EC and I just remembered a debate from awhile ago about Shepard not tending to his side wound (the one that bleeds after "Anderson's" death).

Anyway, it's interesting to point out that Jacob gets shot in the exact same spot during the ex-Cerberus scientist mission except the key difference is that Jacob is hobbling around favouring his wound, even pulling to one side to ease tension... it's interesting that BioWare would put such attention to detail here on such a minor character's animation but yet not on Shepard himself... oh wait, unless the wound was metaphorical that is, in that case it's exactly how it should be.

[TSA_383]

I'll be sticking around for celebrations/trolling/etc

Although I've got one of these on order so if I suddenly disappear just assume I've been hospitalised out of sheer stupidity
http://www.flyozone....ers/xt-16/info/

[Salient Archer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

And as I said, I am not cutting you guys out, so send me IMs, IMs everywhere damnit.

ariandynas at hotmail dot com.

can't say I use IM very much... and by 'very much' I mean 'at all'

Modifié par Salient Archer, 24 juin 2012 - 12:15 .

[excelon]

Don't drop IT just yet.

[estebanus]

excelon wrote...

Don't drop IT just yet.

Did we ever say we would?

[UrgentArchengel]

I recently played through Rannoch, and for some reason, the screen just kept pulsating when I talked to the reaper, it never happened w/ my other playthroughs. It stopped once it died and Tali/Leigon walk in. Strange.

[Salient Archer]

TSA_383 wrote...

I'll be sticking around for celebrations/trolling/etc

Although I've got one of these on order so if I suddenly disappear just assume I've been hospitalised out of sheer stupidity
http://www.flyozone....ers/xt-16/info/

http://www.controlle...px?OHID=1233007 here's my next purcase ... race you to the graveyard; last one there is a rotting corpse...

[TSA_383]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I recently played through Rannoch, and for some reason, the screen just kept pulsating when I talked to the reaper, it never happened w/ my other playthroughs. It stopped once it died and Tali/Leigon walk in. Strange.

I know it happened on my last playthrough - any chance you could give us a rundown of what happened in your playthroughs leading up to that?

Salient Archer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I'll be sticking around for celebrations/trolling/etc

Although I've got one of these on order so if I suddenly disappear just assume I've been hospitalised out of sheer stupidity [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
http://www.flyozone....ers/xt-16/info/

http://www.controlle...px?OHID=1233007 here's my next purcase ... race you to the graveyard; last one there is a rotting corpse...

DAMN my competitive streak

But hot damn that looks a lot of fun! Thankfully mine's ~180 times cheaper though

[Salient Archer]

TSA_383 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I recently played through Rannoch, and for some reason, the screen just kept pulsating when I talked to the reaper, it never happened w/ my other playthroughs. It stopped once it died and Tali/Leigon walk in. Strange.

I know it happened on my last playthrough - any chance you could give us a rundown of what happened in your playthroughs leading up to that?

Salient Archer wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I'll be sticking around for celebrations/trolling/etc

Although I've got one of these on order so if I suddenly disappear just assume I've been hospitalised out of sheer stupidity [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
http://www.flyozone....ers/xt-16/info/

http://www.controlle...px?OHID=1233007 here's my next purcase ... race you to the graveyard; last one there is a rotting corpse...

DAMN my competitive streak

But hot damn that looks a lot of fun! Thankfully mine's ~180 times cheaper though

Now that I've checked out what you're getting I'm starting to think you're getting the better bang for your buck.190k is pretty affordable for what it is but lets just say it took some 'persuading' with the wife ... might wait before I mention the running and maintenance costs.

[Andromidius]

You'd think for a site selling such expensive products it would have better quality web design.

Oh, and adding me to MSN might be a mistake. I tend to talk, A LOT.

Edit: Sigh.  That 'EC known content' thread is full of inaccuracies.  Not even sure how people can manage it.  Being unclear whether Jennifer Hale is confirmed as part of the returning cast?  Ermm...  Yeah.  Its very well known that she is, so it throws everything else said into doubt.

Modifié par Andromidius, 24 juin 2012 - 12:57 .

[TiminatorT2000]

Rifneno wrote...

Blah blah blah, whine whine whine. You don't like it, get the **** out of the IT thread. It's that simple. This is our haven. Get the hell out if you don't like it. 

.

They asked why we get mad about IT I'm simply awnsering the question, if you don't like it don't read my posts.

Rifneno wrote... 
 You raving literalists rule the rest of the forum with your hateful ignorance. 
.

 

This is what I'm talking about , insulting all literalist's over nothing.

Rifneno wrote...
You hypocrite. "when BW is clearly doing the opposite"? BW is clearly not supporting either side. Then right in the next sentence you rant about our confirmation bias. You bloody hypocrite. 

  

It's pretty clear that not changing the ending = not changing the ending, IT would require a changed ending which BW said it wouldn't do which pretty much denies IT.I mean yes they've said they won't outright say it's false, but if they don't show Shepard wakeing up from IT in EC then IT is pretty much false.

[lex0r11]

excelon wrote...

Don't drop IT just yet.

[Arian Dynas]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Blah blah blah, whine whine whine. You don't like it, get the **** out of the IT thread. It's that simple. This is our haven. Get the hell out if you don't like it. 

.

They asked why we get mad about IT I'm simply awnsering the question, if you don't like it don't read my posts.

Rifneno wrote... 
 You raving literalists rule the rest of the forum with your hateful ignorance. 
.

 

This is what I'm talking about , insulting all literalist's over nothing.

Rifneno wrote...
You hypocrite. "when BW is clearly doing the opposite"? BW is clearly not supporting either side. Then right in the next sentence you rant about our confirmation bias. You bloody hypocrite. 

  

It's pretty clear that not changing the ending = not changing the ending, IT would require a changed ending which BW said it wouldn't do which pretty much denies IT.I mean yes they've said they won't outright say it's false, but if they don't show Shepard wakeing up from IT in EC then IT is pretty much false.

Ignore my ill tempered compatriot.

He merely does not suffer those he considers to be fools gladly.

This I will explain to you however, and you will listen, or you will be branded a fool in my book as well.

INDOCTRINATION THEORY HINGES ITSELF ON THE ENDING NOT CHANGING, SINCE IT PRESUPPOSES THE INTENTION HAVING ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

[Andromidius]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

It's pretty clear that not changing the ending = not changing the ending, IT would require a changed ending which BW said it wouldn't do which pretty much denies IT.I mean yes they've said they won't outright say it's false, but if they don't show Shepard wakeing up from IT in EC then IT is pretty much false.

Sigh.  Again, go read what IT actually says, because you seem very confused.

Not to mention the words 'not disproving IT' means...strangely...they aren't debunking IT.  Is that hard to understand?

Its an alternative interpretation.  Bioware wanted speculation.  The only reason EC exists is because people were angry about the literal ending.  Not because people thought It was right, and they wanted to disprove it.


Edit:

Modifié par Andromidius, 24 juin 2012 - 01:18 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Blah blah blah, whine whine whine. You don't like it, get the **** out of the IT thread. It's that simple. This is our haven. Get the hell out if you don't like it. 

.

They asked why we get mad about IT I'm simply awnsering the question, if you don't like it don't read my posts.

Rifneno wrote... 
 You raving literalists rule the rest of the forum with your hateful ignorance. 
.

 

This is what I'm talking about , insulting all literalist's over nothing.

Rifneno wrote...
You hypocrite. "when BW is clearly doing the opposite"? BW is clearly not supporting either side. Then right in the next sentence you rant about our confirmation bias. You bloody hypocrite. 

  

It's pretty clear that not changing the ending = not changing the ending, IT would require a changed ending which BW said it wouldn't do which pretty much denies IT.I mean yes they've said they won't outright say it's false, but if they don't show Shepard wakeing up from IT in EC then IT is pretty much false.

You know I agree with you, Rifneno was beeing unnecesarily rude, but it is really no suprise when we here in this thread have been pestered by Litteralist for 3 months claiming the IT is rubbish without anything to back up their word and citing outdated arguments as proof.

Also you simply continue this thrend in your last sentence where you disaply a lack of understanding for the IT. It wont change the ending, every single one of the scene s we saw will remain, but it will cast new light over waht they meant. All we need is closure afterwards.

Edit: Arian the Ninja strikes again

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 24 juin 2012 - 01:22 .

[nightcobra]

Andromidius wrote...

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

It's pretty clear that not changing the ending = not changing the ending, IT would require a changed ending which BW said it wouldn't do which pretty much denies IT.I mean yes they've said they won't outright say it's false, but if they don't show Shepard wakeing up from IT in EC then IT is pretty much false.

Sigh.  Again, go read what IT actually says, because you seem very confused.

Not to mention the words 'not disproving IT' means...strangely...they aren't debunking IT.  Is that hard to understand?

Its an alternative interpretation.  Bioware wanted speculation.  The only reason EC exists is because people were angry about the literal ending.  Not because people thought It was right, and they wanted to disprove it.


Edit:

it seems people can't find the distinction between:

-changing what was shown by replacing it with another set of events

-have the same events but shown through a different perspective. 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 24 juin 2012 - 01:23 .

[Arian Dynas]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Edit: Arian the Ninja strikes again

And yet, ironically, I think I managed to say it better, in fewer words than either of you. 

And I'm not the ninja by the way. I Am The Warrior!

[TiminatorT2000]

Arian Dynas wrote...

INDOCTRINATION THEORY HINGES ITSELF ON THE ENDING NOT CHANGING, SINCE IT PRESUPPOSES THE INTENTION HAVING ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

The intention dose not mean it was always there though, I get what your saying but it seems like a copout to me.  I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this issue.

Andromidius wrote...

Not to mention the words 'not disproving IT' means...strangely...they aren't debunking IT.  Is that hard to understand?

Its an alternative interpretation.  Bioware wanted speculation.  The only reason EC exists is because people were angry about the literal ending.  Not because people thought It was right, and they wanted to disprove it.

 

I reconize there not technically debunking IT, but anything other then comfirming it is pretty much a tacid admission that it's not true.You may feel differently but that's just my personal opinion.

[Andromidius]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

it seems people can't find the distinction between:

-changing what was shown by replacing it with another set of events

-have the same events but shown through a different perspective. 

Exactly.

[Andromidius]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...
I reconize there not technically debunking IT, but anything other then comfirming it is pretty much a tacid admission that it's not true.You may feel differently but that's just my personal opinion.

Again, I have to explain this clearly.

Stating that the EC contains IT would be a spoiler.  It would anger people on both sides.

Stating that IT is what happens in the story would ruin the immersion and feel very dumbed down.  This would anger a lot of people on both sides.

Adding a few extra subtle hints or clarity to what happened wouldn't be changing the ending.  It would be improving the build up to the ending.

And opinions can be wrong, just saying.

Arian Dynas wrote...
And yet, ironically, I think I managed to say it better, in fewer words than either of you. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

*mutters something about not knowing latin to make myself seem smarter*

Modifié par Andromidius, 24 juin 2012 - 01:33 .