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[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

Well, we can have closure and an open end.

No, we can't.  Because IT'ers don't have an ending until IT is either flatly debunked by BW or proven by BW and given a finish where Shepard wakes up and finishes the Reapers.  Because right now they're still reaping.  There is no middle ground.  IT must be confirmed or killed to have closure.

[TJBartlemus]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Thanks for responding, I can add your name to the list.

Well, if you want to be childish then its your choice

But if IT isn't 'debunked', you're going to look very stupid.

And guess what?  It won't be.  Bioware said it themselves, they are neither confirming nor denying.

So get ready to hide from the wave of shame coming your way

If it's proven true I will come here and say I was wrong, you  were right, sorry.

I am big enough to do that. However you know 99% of your cult won't be able to. So I'm fine with myself. Thanks for wondering though. 

edit - you also said you would laugh at me btw, so please don't call me childish when you yourself were nothing but childish back. You IT nuts are very hypocritical do you know that?

edit 2 - IT is the theory that the game isn't over. It's the theory that the EC will contain a game you can play that picks up after Shep picks Destroy option.

The problem is, and I and other not beliving in this THEORY like it's a religion is this simple fact.

So, untill Tue I have nothing more to say. Ta ta till then.

All of the bolded above are just straight up false. We are not a cult. Not once has any of us have labled us of a cult. This is not  a religion. We are not worshiping it like a god. For most of us it just provides an awnser to why the ending makes no sense. If it is false, so what? If IT wasn't true or at least a part of it, why doesn't BioWare just straight ahead say that it is false? Why do they edge around an awnser??

IT also isn't just provide an ending for after Destroy. If you choose the other two you will see the consequences of your choice. Good or Bad.

[UrgedDuke]

we've had a good run, but these could be our last days of speculating

[Jaze55]

TJBartlemus wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Thanks for responding, I can add your name to the list.

Well, if you want to be childish then its your choice

But if IT isn't 'debunked', you're going to look very stupid.

And guess what?  It won't be.  Bioware said it themselves, they are neither confirming nor denying.

So get ready to hide from the wave of shame coming your way

If it's proven true I will come here and say I was wrong, you  were right, sorry.

I am big enough to do that. However you know 99% of your cult won't be able to. So I'm fine with myself. Thanks for wondering though. 

edit - you also said you would laugh at me btw, so please don't call me childish when you yourself were nothing but childish back. You IT nuts are very hypocritical do you know that?

edit 2 - IT is the theory that the game isn't over. It's the theory that the EC will contain a game you can play that picks up after Shep picks Destroy option.

The problem is, and I and other not beliving in this THEORY like it's a religion is this simple fact.

So, untill Tue I have nothing more to say. Ta ta till then.

All of the bolded above are just straight up false. We are not a cult. Not once has any of us have labled us of a cult. This is not  a religion. We are not worshiping it like a god. For most of us it just provides an awnser to why the ending makes no sense. If it is false, so what? If IT wasn't true or at least a part of it, why doesn't BioWare just straight ahead say that it is false? Why do they edge around an awnser??

IT also isn't just provide an ending for after Destroy. If you choose the other two you will see the consequences of your choice. Good or Bad.

reserved

[Golferguy758]

Rifneno wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

We are?
Personally, if we don't get some closure out of this, well I can't really be bothered anymore, I've got all this "normal life" stuff going on and frankly I can't really be arsed speculating if we're not going to find out if we're right.

Agreed.  If EC is as utterly useless as Jessica Merizan has told us, I'm packing my bags too.

That

[StElmo]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

We are?
Personally, if we don't get some closure out of this, well I can't really be bothered anymore, I've got all this "normal life" stuff going on and frankly I can't really be arsed speculating if we're not going to find out if we're right.

Agreed.  If EC is as utterly useless as Jessica Merizan has told us, I'm packing my bags too.

That

I'm fearful that many ITers will cling to the fact it hasn't been "disproven", giving BW credit for something they aren' being straight about.

It's about sending a message, but if people still tell themselves it is good and continue to support plots that aren't cohesive, the industry will get less interesting as a whole.

I hope BW disprove or prove it, either way IT isn't the deal breaker, it is the plot holes. But leaving IT open means leaving plot holes.

Modifié par StElmo, 24 juin 2012 - 08:20 .

[Cyberfrog81]

So is that the general consensus? Unless Shepard continues the fight or becomes a Reaper or Reaper victim, the IT adventure is over?

I'm going to mentally prepare myself for the EC only "fixing" or at least improving the ending for literalists. The best the rest of us can hope for is being laughed at for weeks and months.

[Taco Del Marr]

MassEffected555 wrote...

byne wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

byne wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

byne wrote...


MassEffected555, I remember you. You've been nothing but  childish regarding IT the entire time. Dont lecture us  about being childish.

Byne I have a post all for you congratulating you come Tuesday, don't worry I didn't forget you. I won't tell you what the post is about because I want to keep it a suprise, but I will say this. I am on to you and tuesday I will let you know how. 

I dont know what it means to be 'on to me,' because last I checked I wasnt plotting anything nefarious, or doing anything shady.

But good luck with whatever you're on to.

I think you are a genius, a master. That's really all I can say. I am impressed now that I understand you.

Oh. I suppose you think I'm a master troll or something? Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats false.

All I will say is this again:

I am on to you!

That's it from me till Tue. I don't want to accidentily ruin the suprise.

And he called us nuts

[IronSabbath88]

Alright, I'll be honest and frank. I'm with you guys that if EC is useless, I definitely won't be speculating anymore and that's pretty much it for me. I'll enjoy the trilogy but no IT anymore, and taking a long look at any future ME titles that come out.

That said though.. I have to raise a point...

Hackett gives Joker the order, we see that... but whose to say Joker actually follows through? Joker has been known to do some crazy **** in the past and that scene infront of the memorial wall.. whose to say it doesn't happen before the Earth assault? I dunno.. it seems all too strange for me that BioWare would clearly show us those two screens. They give away the fact that the endings are to be taken literally and everything has an explanation....

But what if they throw a curveball?

That's all I'll say on the matter. If there's no curveball and they just throw us a screwball (har har, see what I did there?) then so be it, I'm done. This is my last bit of speculation. You guys have been great!

[Taco Del Marr]

StElmo wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

We are?
Personally, if we don't get some closure out of this, well I can't really be bothered anymore, I've got all this "normal life" stuff going on and frankly I can't really be arsed speculating if we're not going to find out if we're right.

Agreed.  If EC is as utterly useless as Jessica Merizan has told us, I'm packing my bags too.

That

I'm fearful that many ITers will cling to the fact it hasn't been "disproven", giving BW credit for something they aren' being straight about.

It's about sending a message, but if people still tell themselves it is good and continue to support plots that aren't cohesive, the industry will get less interesting as a whole.

From as far as I can tell if we aren't proven right the majority of us will take off, if bioware leaves the ending open for interpretation it would be as bad as if they had just disproved us because that means we don't have an ending and won't be recieving one.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

So is that the general consensus? Unless Shepard continues the fight or becomes a Reaper or Reaper victim, the IT adventure is over?

I'm going to mentally prepare myself for the EC only "fixing" or at least improving the ending for literalists. The best the rest of us can hope for is being laughed at for weeks and months.

If it makes you feel better, most of people who are skeptical of IT don't really think EC is likely to improve the ending for them either. I'd say only a small percentage of people think the EC is going to be helpful at this point.

[RaenImrahl]

MassEffected555 wrote...

See that guy I quoted first? THAT'S why I am waiting, waiting so patiently, to rub this IT nonsense down your throats. I don't care if that makes me a bad, little or POS person, I am going to LOVE IT. 

Come Tuesday, it's time for fun. 

MassEffected555 wrote...

Thanks for responding, I can add your name to the list.

No.  User banned.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Guys.. just thought about something

What if the final scene, the "Normandy crash", is not a crash at all?
What if the wave reached the Normandy..destroyed it.. and killed them all?

Maybe Bioware wanted to go full "Lost" and the planet is actually paradise.. hence all the happy smiling and stuff...

that would even resolve the problem with the squadmates teleporting

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 24 juin 2012 - 08:33 .

[masster blaster]

Look from watching part two of IT I can say it was intend and they do support IT and watch the video



You'll see what I am talking about.

And when IT is proven true we can't rub it in the people who were apposed IT because we won't be like them when they tried to troll us when we were trying to proven IT right.

But all I can say is Shepard is the dark Knight and it's time for Shepard to rises!

Modifié par masster blaster, 24 juin 2012 - 08:37 .

[infinite_regress]

This may be a silly question, but why are some ITers claiming they will pack their bags if IT isn't shown to be true in the EC? Is there no possibility that if nothing in the EC clearly states that Shep is indoctrinated/in the process of indoctrination, that it could simply point to the idea even more? As in, provide more evidence (or more strongly indicate that you all have been on the right track) in support of IT but that we will have to wait once again for the truth to be fully unveiled at a later date, such as in future DLC?

If I'm totally off the mark, and have missed something important such as a statement that the EC is the be-all-end-all then disregard my question!

[masster blaster]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Guys.. just thought about something

What if the final scene, the "Normandy crash", is not a crash at all?
What if the wave reached the Normandy..destroyed it.. and killed them all?

Maybe Bioware wanted to go full "Lost" and the planet is actually paradise.. hence all the happy smiling and stuff...

that would even resolve the problem with the squadmates teleporting

just watch


 You'll see there's nothing to worry about.

[Golferguy758]

RaenImrahl wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

See that guy I quoted first? THAT'S why I am waiting, waiting so patiently, to rub this IT nonsense down your throats. I don't care if that makes me a bad, little or POS person, I am going to LOVE IT. 

Come Tuesday, it's time for fun. 

MassEffected555 wrote...

Thanks for responding, I can add your name to the list.

No.  User banned.

I... I...love you.

[masster blaster]

Byne are you going to add IT documentation part two to the front page?

[Ctoagu]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Guys.. just thought about something

What if the final scene, the "Normandy crash", is not a crash at all?
What if the wave reached the Normandy..destroyed it.. and killed them all?

Maybe Bioware wanted to go full "Lost" and the planet is actually paradise.. hence all the happy smiling and stuff...

Except that Bioware never made a proven afterlife within the Mass Effect universe. Death there is the same Great Unknown that it is in real life. Why change that now? Hell, Shepard spent two years dead, and (s)he never had anything to say on the matter.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

masster blaster wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Guys.. just thought about something

What if the final scene, the "Normandy crash", is not a crash at all?
What if the wave reached the Normandy..destroyed it.. and killed them all?

Maybe Bioware wanted to go full "Lost" and the planet is actually paradise.. hence all the happy smiling and stuff...

that would even resolve the problem with the squadmates teleporting

just watch


 You'll see there's nothing to worry about

I'm on it right now..

[v0rt3x22]

So who thinks that "IT" was carefully planned by BioWare all along?

Or am I the only one on these forums who thinks that?

[nightcobra]

infinite_regress wrote...

This may be a silly question, but why are some ITers claiming they will pack their bags if IT isn't shown to be true in the EC? Is there no possibility that if nothing in the EC clearly states that Shep is indoctrinated/in the process of indoctrination, that it could simply point to the idea even more? As in, provide more evidence (or more strongly indicate that you all have been on the right track) in support of IT but that we will have to wait once again for the truth to be fully unveiled at a later date, such as in future DLC?

If I'm totally off the mark, and have missed something important such as a statement that the EC is the be-all-end-all then disregard my question!

more than wanting the IT be true, i'd rather have an ending than a stop to the story.
if important plot points and plot holes aren't addressed then i'll pack the bags and go.

however if they by some miracle manage to explain the plotholes without using IT and deliver closure to all your important choices in a satisfying manner then i'm okay with it, if somewhat more cautious about bioware's next releases.

[Taco Del Marr]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Guys.. just thought about something

What if the final scene, the "Normandy crash", is not a crash at all?
What if the wave reached the Normandy..destroyed it.. and killed them all?

Maybe Bioware wanted to go full "Lost" and the planet is actually paradise.. hence all the happy smiling and stuff...

That would actually could have worked as an ending if say your shepard died, and hes with the crew including those who had died earlier like Mordin and Thane in sort of gladiator-esque ending.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

So who thinks that "IT" was carefully planned by BioWare all along?

Or am I the only one on these forums who thinks that?

some of us used to think that.. but I think there are few left by now

[masster blaster]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

So who thinks that "IT" was carefully planned by BioWare all along?

Or am I the only one on these forums who thinks that?

I do watch



  The hope will come up again for IT.