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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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paxxton

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I think I missed the outpour of posts during the weekend. Posted Image

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TJBartlemus wrote...

So here is a recent post on twitter by Michael Gamble:

Nikos Tsesmetzis
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all of the content of the Extended Cut can be seen AFTER the game's
final choice, right? there's nothing before the beam, right?Michael Gamble[/b]

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@Loaderini there is content before the beam :)

And this just makes my theory sound more and more plausible. So I hope it is more content that can help with my WNT.

I guess at this point everyone is hoping they are right.


This is exactly what they wanted :pinched:

paxxton wrote...

I think I missed the outpour of posts during the weekend. Posted Image


If you want, you can faithfully recreate the experience of reading 80 pages of mostly trolling by smashing your face repeatedly onto a desk or a wall until you feel suitably brain-damaged.

Modifié par TSA_383, 24 juin 2012 - 09:48 .


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@TSA_383 Some of your stuff made it onto the part 2 just not the infrasound.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Okay, yeah. He tossed aside the Coates idea without actually addressing it properly. That's not good. Is he aware of the more recent discoveries about him?


I assume my infrasound research didn't make the cut then? ;)


Seems not :(

And its a shame too, because its very compelling stuff.  Wonder why it wasn't included?  Unless he doesn't know...  but then he does mention you in the video shortly after while talking about the Shepard / Anderson / TIM conversation.

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Oh, the 2nd part of the documentary by CleverNoob is out? I need to watch it right away!

Modifié par paxxton, 24 juin 2012 - 09:51 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

So here is a recent post on twitter by Michael Gamble:

Nikos Tsesmetzis
@Loaderini
@GambleMike
all of the content of the Extended Cut can be seen AFTER the game's
final choice, right? there's nothing before the beam, right?Michael Gamble[/b]

@
GambleMike
@Loaderini there is content before the beam :)

And this just makes my theory sound more and more plausible. So I hope it is more content that can help with my WNT.

I guess at this point everyone is hoping they are right.


This is exactly what they wanted :pinched:


In which way is it what they wanted?? :blush:

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Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...

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TSA_383 wrote...

You can find all the shadowmap files in Umodel but I don't have anything to read them with - but yeah, the shadow maps change from scene to scene - throughout the citadel sequence there are loads of such little subtle tweaks in lighting and such - have you ever tried turning around in the bloody keeper corridor when you reach the end of it?

Also folks, decided that I'm going to try slowing down the bits from the start and end of the prothean visions and put those on youtube - I remember seeing stuff of interest there ;)


The evidence you offered him about the listener stuff made my jaw hit the floor, so I am really interested in your dissection of the prothean visions. perhaps you could check the ones from the From Ashes DLC mission too?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

@TSA_383 Some of your stuff made it onto the part 2 just not the infrasound.

Andromidius wrote...
Seems not :(

And its a shame too, because its very compelling stuff.  Wonder why it wasn't included?  Unless he doesn't know...  but then he does mention you in the video shortly after while talking about the Shepard / Anderson / TIM conversation.

He probably didn't have time, given that it really had to be out today or early tomorrow, ideally today so that people have 24 hours to talk about it :P

What stuff of mine went in? I'm about to go watch the Grand Prix (heard it was epic!).
Please tell me he covered the "Bioware's Clues/Red Herring" thread, I was quite pleased with that :lol:

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TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think I missed the outpour of posts during the weekend. Posted Image


If you want, you can faithfully recreate the experience of reading 80 pages of mostly trolling by smashing your face repeatedly onto a desk or a wall until you feel suitably brain-damaged.


Then yell at a wall for four hours straight.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 24 juin 2012 - 09:51 .


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

I've never once seen a dead crewmember coming out.

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TSA_383 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

@TSA_383 Some of your stuff made it onto the part 2 just not the infrasound.

Andromidius wrote...
Seems not :(

And its a shame too, because its very compelling stuff.  Wonder why it wasn't included?  Unless he doesn't know...  but then he does mention you in the video shortly after while talking about the Shepard / Anderson / TIM conversation.

He probably didn't have time, given that it really had to be out today or early tomorrow, ideally today so that people have 24 hours to talk about it :P

What stuff of mine went in? I'm about to go watch the Grand Prix (heard it was epic!).
Please tell me he covered the "Bioware's Clues/Red Herring" thread, I was quite pleased with that :lol:


he covered it, made it plausible, but found it weak.

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@Megumi Occasional fails aside, is the second part of the documentary any good? Honestly, I still need to set aside the time to watch part one.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

I've never once seen a dead crewmember coming out.


My dead Javik came out on my middle ems playthrough. I don't have proof because I use an Xbox though.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

I've never once seen a dead crewmember coming out.


Pretty sure thats what happened on my very first playthrough. Saw Liara die and then walk out of the Normandy.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

I've never once seen a dead crewmember coming out.


Oh, believe me, it has been known to happen.

But now, for something else..
one thing I always found weird was.. I mean.. wouldn't the Crucible pulse take a sh*tload of time until it has finally reached the entire universe?
It moves only slightly faster than the Normandy, and the universe is really, really big. Like, maybe endless. The pulse would still be going in a few, if not a thousand or a million years.

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 24 juin 2012 - 09:56 .


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lol They say the DLC "wont change the end", but they put content BEFORE the end. That is, in a sense, changing the end.

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The time for an answer has almost arrived. Anyone nervous?

Modifié par Malanek999, 24 juin 2012 - 09:56 .


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh my gosh, @ about 34 mins he says if you got low EMS you see your dead squadmates and later see them walk out of the Normandy... didn't he ever watch a low EMS video? No one gets out with low EMS...


well, there's kinda low EMS, and there's very low EMS. With very low EMS, yeah, nobody gets out. With middle EMS, he's right.

I've never once seen a dead crewmember coming out.


Oh, believe me, it has been known to happen.

But now, for something else..
one thing I always found weird was.. I mean.. wouldn't the Crucible pulse take a sh*tload of time until it has finally reached the entire universe?
It moves only slightly faster than the Normandy, and the universe is really, really big. Like, may endless. The pulse would still be going in a few, if not a thousand or a million years.


It appears the pulse fades after a distance from our star to the Oort Cloud. I'm not sure how any AU's that is, but it's a good rough estimate.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 24 juin 2012 - 09:57 .


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Dwailing wrote...

@Megumi Occasional fails aside, is the second part of the documentary any good? Honestly, I still need to set aside the time to watch part one.

Most sounds biased but when he is rating he seems to want to appease both sides and gives nearly everything a plausible so far, not leaning to either side. His conclusions sometimes have some minor flaws from my point of view, but it's save to say so far it's way better then his first try.
I'm at ~40mins btw.

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Watching Indocumentary 2 :)

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The time for an answer has almost arrived. Anyone nervous?


Why? What do I have to lose? The respect of people I don't even know or care about? Oh no, that would be terrible!:o




<_<

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The time for an answer has almost arrived. Anyone nervous?


I am, but only because I fear for the worst

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Daryslash wrote...

lol They say the DLC "wont change the end", but they put content BEFORE the end. That is, in a sense, changing the end.


Didn't think of that. good catch.