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byne wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Interesting tweet from Gamble just now:

"For those who think you have to start over: The Cerberus Base autosave is automatically created after you finish ME3! Just load that one"

While this may not be news - it's interesting in relationship to IT - that it creates an autosave at that location AFTER you beat the game.


Not to me. I saw it as a, "Here, start from this point if you want to see what happens if you pick another option or missed that last TIM option."

Also, Shepard dies in most cases, so starting the game at this point just before the point of no return makes the most sense.


Ok I didn't actually mean that the interesting part is the tweet - but the interesting part is that the game makes a last save - at the cerberus base AFTER you complete it.

That's usually a sign that any choice after that - is not in the save - and thus - if there is more content on its way (as BioWare have stated "keep your save games") - it poses the question why it makes an autosave at that location.

Remember the discussion that was going on with ME1 - where you had to go through the entire credits - because otherwise the game wouldn't save the last choice you made: "Who becomes councilor". It was said back then by BioWare that the game saved that last choice after the credits.

So I'm just wondering what this may mean for future content and "IT" - if the game makes a last save at the cerberus base. 



My games never saved who became councilor. I always had to pick again during the little chat with Miranda and Jacob after Lazarus station.


The game never saves who became councilor.  Everyone has to decide in ME2 who they want to be councilor.  I think the reason for this is that ME1 gives you the option at the end of refusing to give your support to one candidate or the other.  However, since they can't have that in ME2, you have to make the decision in ME2.  Oh, and the final save in ME1 is made right after the choice to save/sacrifice/kill the Council (Yes, I know there are only two outcomes, but there are three choices that lead to those outcomes, and the reasoning behind each choice that leads to the death of the Council is different depending on which one you chose.).

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

maxloef wrote...

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For one time it is a good time to be in germany (from a gamer's perspective).
EC will launch at 11am local time on Xbox 360.
No need to be awake to whole night for me :D


im sorry to tell you thats not the case, 6am PST is 2PM GMT+1 which is Netherlands (me) and Germany

And where do you have 6am from ?
Mike Gamble said it will be released at 2am PST on Xbox Live.
2am +9hrs = 11am in good old germany ;)


which means ONLY 13 HOURS LEFT WOOOHOOOO
Though I have school first :( so no EC for me until 5 PM



WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Interesting tweet from Gamble just now:

"For those who think you have to start over: The Cerberus Base autosave is automatically created after you finish ME3! Just load that one"

While this may not be news - it's interesting in relationship to IT - that it creates an autosave at that location AFTER you beat the game.

It actually loads the Legend Save, and then creates a copy as autosave from it.


Yea but the interesting question is - why there?


I'm guessing that you'll be able to meet your ME2 companions before the Cronos station. That's when sexytime takes place, after all, and they said that the ME2 companions would get "some more lovin" in the Ec.


Even though I find it pretty funny that two people mention sexy time - you guys are missing the point:

What I'm asking is:

Lets assume for a moment that a post-ending DLC comes out in the future - between Cerb and ending - you still make significant choices.

But if the save game is created before Cerb - and then imported in a future DLC - doesn't that ignore any choices that you've made post Cerb? I'm asking why that might be.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

maxloef wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

For one time it is a good time to be in germany (from a gamer's perspective).
EC will launch at 11am local time on Xbox 360.
No need to be awake to whole night for me :D


im sorry to tell you thats not the case, 6am PST is 2PM GMT+1 which is Netherlands (me) and Germany

And where do you have 6am from ?
Mike Gamble said it will be released at 2am PST on Xbox Live.
2am +9hrs = 11am in good old germany ;)


which means ONLY 13 HOURS LEFT WOOOHOOOO
Though I have school first :( so no EC for me until 5 PM


When my school noticed that nobody ever does anything in school anyway for the last 2 weeks they made it so that everybody has to do 2 weeks of social service. That means i have to watch little children (kindergarten to elementary school) from 8am to 4pm, then take the bus and walk half an hour, so I'll probably be able to start at the same time as you.

*highfive*

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paxxton wrote...

Do you feel it in your guts that the EC will prove IT or is your faith starting to shake? Posted Image


I want a good DLC.

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Because it's the point of no return, you can't do anything else but CS and London after starting CS, so to have the chance to play a DLC that doesn't play on these locations it has to be created before CS.

An eventual "Retake Omega" DLC could not take place before the Cerberus HQ mission IMO, what's your thought about it ?

It has to take place before CS, why do you think it could not?
Retaking Omega is just something like Rannoch.

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paxxton wrote...

Do you feel it in your guts that the EC will prove IT or is your faith starting to shake? Posted Image


I don't think it will prove it.

If anything it'll add more clues.

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Uncle Jo wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

 There's a guy who claims to have debunked IT: 

http://social.biowar.../index/12745009 

ATTACK!!!!!! :lol:

No. I've taken a look at his/her thread and it doesn't look like trolling. In either way s/he is way too late. The EC is coming out tomorrow.


Exactly. There's really no point in debating anything so close to release.

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Hold me Lex0r I feel scared :(

Don't worry. Everyone here has got your back!


Just watch the hands :P


Do you really think any of us would... *flashes back to the LotSB romance scene with Liara*  I understand your concerns.  We'll be careful.

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Xavendithas wrote...

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Because it's the point of no return, you can't do anything else but CS and London after starting CS, so to have the chance to play a DLC that doesn't play on these locations it has to be created before CS.

An eventual "Retake Omega" DLC could not take place before the Cerberus HQ mission IMO, what's your thought about it ?


Aria has already committed her forces to the war on the Reapers. It seems as though any attempt to retake Omega would have to occur after the war is finished and her mercenaries are not tied up any longer.

There is an unused sound file where Aria says something like "now that I'm back on Omega you can have all my forces"

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ivenoidea wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

maxloef wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

For one time it is a good time to be in germany (from a gamer's perspective).
EC will launch at 11am local time on Xbox 360.
No need to be awake to whole night for me :D


im sorry to tell you thats not the case, 6am PST is 2PM GMT+1 which is Netherlands (me) and Germany

And where do you have 6am from ?
Mike Gamble said it will be released at 2am PST on Xbox Live.
2am +9hrs = 11am in good old germany ;)


which means ONLY 13 HOURS LEFT WOOOHOOOO
Though I have school first :( so no EC for me until 5 PM


When my school noticed that nobody ever does anything in school anyway for the last 2 weeks they made it so that everybody has to do 2 weeks of social service. That means i have to watch little children (kindergarten to elementary school) from 8am to 4pm, then take the bus and walk half an hour, so I'll probably be able to start at the same time as you.

*highfive*


oh god, that would probably be hell for me. Children are so loud and annoying :unsure:

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

 There's a guy who claims to have debunked IT: 

http://social.biowar.../index/12745009 

ATTACK!!!!!! :lol:


I like how a lot of the things he points out he doesn't even address.  /facepalm

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lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...


Hold me Lex0r I feel scared :(

Don't worry. Everyone here has got your back!


Just watch the hands :P



Aaaawwwww..


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I see what you did there.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

 There's a guy who claims to have debunked IT: 

http://social.biowar.../index/12745009 

ATTACK!!!!!! :lol:

No. I've taken a look at his/her thread and it doesn't look like trolling. In either way s/he is way too late. The EC is coming out tomorrow.


Exactly. There's really no point in debating anything so close to release.


Agreed.  We'll just have to wait and see tomorrow.  BTW, when I say goodbye tonight, I'm gone until I've finished the EC.  Possibly until I've finished the EC twice, just to keep my eye out for clues if it seems like there's more evidence of a hallucination.

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lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you feel it in your guts that the EC will prove IT or is your faith starting to shake? Posted Image


I want a good DLC.

No motivational? Posted Image

The EC will be good, that's for sure.

Modifié par paxxton, 25 juin 2012 - 08:10 .


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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Interesting tweet from Gamble just now:

"For those who think you have to start over: The Cerberus Base autosave is automatically created after you finish ME3! Just load that one"

While this may not be news - it's interesting in relationship to IT - that it creates an autosave at that location AFTER you beat the game.

It actually loads the Legend Save, and then creates a copy as autosave from it.


Yea but the interesting question is - why there?


I'm guessing that you'll be able to meet your ME2 companions before the Cronos station. That's when sexytime takes place, after all, and they said that the ME2 companions would get "some more lovin" in the Ec.


Even though I find it pretty funny that two people mention sexy time - you guys are missing the point:

What I'm asking is:

Lets assume for a moment that a post-ending DLC comes out in the future - between Cerb and ending - you still make significant choices.

But if the save game is created before Cerb - and then imported in a future DLC - doesn't that ignore any choices that you've made post Cerb? I'm asking why that might be.

There wont be any post ending DLC.

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Huh, so I just got back from the store. I went to buy a new xbox controller since the right bumper on my old crappy one stopped working. Without that bumper I cant play a vanguard in MP.

Anyways, I just noticed I bought a wired xbox controller.

I wasnt even aware they made wired xbox controllers.

Although, I think I actually prefer it. Theres a lot of room without the battery pack getting in the way.

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estebanus wrote...

I see what you did there.



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Just so happens that Bioware would release the EC on the very day that I have to make up a missed drill... Thanks a lot Bioware, now I have to go all day tomorrow without looking at the forums plus the time it takes me to finish EC. I am thankful for EC, it just seems my timing is terrible.

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Andromidius wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

 There's a guy who claims to have debunked IT: 

http://social.biowar.../index/12745009 

ATTACK!!!!!! :lol:


I like how a lot of the things he points out he doesn't even address.  /facepalm


oh god...help!.....I'm starting to get angry....the non believers are collecting themselves.....with ridiculous claims:

IT has already been debunked by the fact that it will (confirmed) not be featured in the EC 

 <_<

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

There is an unused sound file where Aria says something like "now that I'm back on Omega you can have all my forces"


I didn't realize that. Now that I'm thinking about it, didn't Gamble say somewhere that there wouldn't be any 'post' ending DLC?

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you feel it in your guts that the EC will prove IT or is your faith starting to shake? Posted Image


I don't think it will prove it.

If anything it'll add more clues.

I suppose the EC will set the stage for Mass Effect 4. Mark my words. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you feel it in your guts that the EC will prove IT or is your faith starting to shake? Posted Image


I want a good DLC.

No motivational? Posted Image



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MegumiAzusa wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Interesting tweet from Gamble just now:

"For those who think you have to start over: The Cerberus Base autosave is automatically created after you finish ME3! Just load that one"

While this may not be news - it's interesting in relationship to IT - that it creates an autosave at that location AFTER you beat the game.

It actually loads the Legend Save, and then creates a copy as autosave from it.


Yea but the interesting question is - why there?


I'm guessing that you'll be able to meet your ME2 companions before the Cronos station. That's when sexytime takes place, after all, and they said that the ME2 companions would get "some more lovin" in the Ec.


Even though I find it pretty funny that two people mention sexy time - you guys are missing the point:

What I'm asking is:

Lets assume for a moment that a post-ending DLC comes out in the future - between Cerb and ending - you still make significant choices.

But if the save game is created before Cerb - and then imported in a future DLC - doesn't that ignore any choices that you've made post Cerb? I'm asking why that might be.

There wont be any post ending DLC.


...aaand what makes you say that?

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Interesting tweet from Gamble just now:

"For those who think you have to start over: The Cerberus Base autosave is automatically created after you finish ME3! Just load that one"

While this may not be news - it's interesting in relationship to IT - that it creates an autosave at that location AFTER you beat the game.


Not to me. I saw it as a, "Here, start from this point if you want to see what happens if you pick another option or missed that last TIM option."

Also, Shepard dies in most cases, so starting the game at this point just before the point of no return makes the most sense.


Ok I didn't actually mean that the interesting part is the tweet - but the interesting part is that the game makes a last save - at the cerberus base AFTER you complete it.

That's usually a sign that any choice after that - is not in the save - and thus - if there is more content on its way (as BioWare have stated "keep your save games") - it poses the question why it makes an autosave at that location.

Remember the discussion that was going on with ME1 - where you had to go through the entire credits - because otherwise the game wouldn't save the last choice you made: "Who becomes councilor". It was said back then by BioWare that the game saved that last choice after the credits.

So I'm just wondering what this may mean for future content and "IT" - if the game makes a last save at the cerberus base. 



My games never saved who became councilor. I always had to pick again during the little chat with Miranda and Jacob after Lazarus station.


The game never saves who became councilor.  Everyone has to decide in ME2 who they want to be councilor.  I think the reason for this is that ME1 gives you the option at the end of refusing to give your support to one candidate or the other.  However, since they can't have that in ME2, you have to make the decision in ME2.  Oh, and the final save in ME1 is made right after the choice to save/sacrifice/kill the Council (Yes, I know there are only two outcomes, but there are three choices that lead to those outcomes, and the reasoning behind each choice that leads to the death of the Council is different depending on which one you chose.).

  No, if you chose "It's not up to me"  udina becomes a member of the council.

If you chose  anderson in me1 and then say in me2 that you chose udina, udina becomes the council member.

But  you don't really chose who the council member will be, your just giving your "vote"

but on the other hand, even if anderson is council in me2, it doesn't matter as he wont be in me3 as we all know (another dumb thing done by bioware showing that   it didn't really matter who you chose)