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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#28901
HellishFiend

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

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LegendSave is, as far as we could tell, a hidden save the game makes for you after you beat the game. It's placed just before Cronos station.

No, it's created when ordering the attack on CS and loaded after you've beaten the game.


Ah ok, thanks for clarifying. I didnt follow the LegendSave thread as much as I should have...

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HellishFiend wrote...

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Hi people! First time poster, but firm believer in the IT. I'm gonna be up most of the night anyway; might as well try to get in on the conversation(s).


Welcome. :happy: The beverages may or may not be spiked. 

Thanks! And that explains this aftertaste...

FellishBeast wrote...

viggorrah wrote...

Hi people! First time poster, but firm believer in the IT. I'm gonna be up most of the night anyway; might as well try to get in on the conversation(s).


We appreciate your "coming out." [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Yay thanks! :D


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Overload_C14 wrote...

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Overload_C14 wrote...

Just 3 more hours before bioware proves their genius or our dreams are crushed


Have a little faith....


Im trying :P
Im also going to be intrested on how me not buying any DLCs (and therefore noot interacting with objecrt Rho) will effect my playthrough, Seems like it'll be intresting seeing as to me that apears as the greatest area to be exposed to indoctrination aswell as their experiments while your out cold.



I'm torn between asking you to let us know and taking the time to find out for myself... 


I'm 99.9% sure The Arrival happened whether you actually bought it or not.

I'll be that 0.1%: it did. 

#28903
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Nah. Arrival may be canon lore-wise, but it's definitely possible for it not to have happened in any given playthrough. 


Are you sure? Then why is Shepard on earth on trial for blowing up a bunch of Batarians?


He's not. If you havent played Arrival, he's on trial for "The **** you done" according to Anderson. <_<

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HellishFiend wrote...

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Nah. Arrival may be canon lore-wise, but it's definitely possible for it not to have happened in any given playthrough. 


Are you sure? Then why is Shepard on earth on trial for blowing up a bunch of Batarians?


He's not. If you havent played Arrival, he's on trial for "The **** you done" according to Anderson. <_<


Oh. Well. Then. That's...unfortunate.

Isn't exposure to Object Rho a staple of IT?

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HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Nah. Arrival may be canon lore-wise, but it's definitely possible for it not to have happened in any given playthrough. 


Are you sure? Then why is Shepard on earth on trial for blowing up a bunch of Batarians?


He's not. If you havent played Arrival, he's on trial for "The **** you done" according to Anderson. <_<

:mellow: Very helpful, Anderson...


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Oh. Well. Then. That's...unfortunate.

Isn't exposure to Object Rho a staple of IT?

It is...that's where it's supposedly to have started.

Modifié par viggorrah, 26 juin 2012 - 06:22 .


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Anyone want to try to make sense of this?

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FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Nah. Arrival may be canon lore-wise, but it's definitely possible for it not to have happened in any given playthrough. 


Are you sure? Then why is Shepard on earth on trial for blowing up a bunch of Batarians?


He's not. If you havent played Arrival, he's on trial for "The **** you done" according to Anderson. <_<


Oh. Well. Then. That's...unfortunate.

Isn't exposure to Object Rho a staple of IT?


That's sorta still a matter of opinion, but I'd say yes. That being said, Arrival is canon because Shepard is cited as having done it in the Vega comic. 

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FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Nah. Arrival may be canon lore-wise, but it's definitely possible for it not to have happened in any given playthrough. 


Are you sure? Then why is Shepard on earth on trial for blowing up a bunch of Batarians?


He's not. If you havent played Arrival, he's on trial for "The **** you done" according to Anderson. <_<


Oh. Well. Then. That's...unfortunate.

Isn't exposure to Object Rho a staple of IT?


It seems to be very stong evidence to it, yes
Acording to what ive seen Arrival is done by a swat team that give their life because you dont do it (Even if this makes some things in ME3 not add up) and instead your on trial for working with/for TIM 
Ill post anything diffrent to what you guys report

#28909
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FellishBeast wrote...

Anyone want to try to make sense of this?


It mentions "morphology", which links to a lengthy article about a linguistic concept that causes my eyes to glaze over....

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FellishBeast wrote...

Guys, there is a dead tree in the middle of Whiterun...JUST like the ones in Shepard's dreams...

Speculations?

Edit: Sorry, the Christmas Eve adrenaline is kicking in....


Go get Nettlebane, you lazy husk!

But that is something that the VI actually should have picked up on...right?


We don't even know for sure that damned thing isn't a Reaper plant, let alone how it detects indoctrination. I'd hazard a guess that it checks the target's mind for "Reapers are teh awesome!" It was obviously checking Shepard's mind since it saw the cipher and assumed he was a fasc--er, prothean.

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The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.

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Rifneno wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Guys, there is a dead tree in the middle of Whiterun...JUST like the ones in Shepard's dreams...

Speculations?

Edit: Sorry, the Christmas Eve adrenaline is kicking in....


Go get Nettlebane, you lazy husk!

But that is something that the VI actually should have picked up on...right?


We don't even know for sure that damned thing isn't a Reaper plant, let alone how it detects indoctrination. I'd hazard a guess that it checks the target's mind for "Reapers are teh awesome!" It was obviously checking Shepard's mind since it saw the cipher and assumed he was a fasc--er, prothean.


Javik: "Fascism was punishable by death in my cycle.  ...oh wait...."

#28913
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MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


My guess is that come tomorrow this post will either be hilarious or be "last edited x hours ago" ;)

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HellishFiend wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


My guess is that come tomorrow this post will either be hilarious or be "last edited x hours ago" ;)


Yea by tomorrow this thread will grow another 500 pages. I'm not gonna fish through all those posts to edit a day old comment.

#28915
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MegaSovereign wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


My guess is that come tomorrow this post will either be hilarious or be "last edited x hours ago" ;)


Yea by tomorrow this thread will grow another 500 pages. I'm not gonna fish through all those posts to edit a day old comment.


Hilarious it is, then. :)

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MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


Most appropriate place for this pic EVER.
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Javik: "Fascism was punishable by death in my cycle. ...oh wait...."


I was talking to a friend of mine about Javik and the topic of his douchebaggery to Liara came up. She said she wanted to tell him, "I saw your race destroyed... wouldn't mind seeing it again." God how I wish we had dialogue options like that for Javik.

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Let's hope Bioware had this planned all along...or at the very least stole the idea. If not...let's just hope they can fix the ending to make it at the very least decent.

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HellishFiend wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


My guess is that come tomorrow this post will either be hilarious or be "last edited x hours ago" ;)


Yea by tomorrow this thread will grow another 500 pages. I'm not gonna fish through all those posts to edit a day old comment.


Hilarious it is, then. :)


I'll command my Reapers to **** this thread up.

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FellishBeast wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

A tip when playing EC: Fear the worst, hope for the best.


+1


A tip for before playing EC: If the DLC has been out for more than an hour, don't go to any gaming sites or even type in "mass effect" in a search engine. Spoilers can ruin your day, especially when you've been waiting almost 4 months.

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Rifneno wrote...

I was talking to a friend of mine about Javik and the topic of his douchebaggery to Liara came up. She said she wanted to tell him, "I saw your race destroyed... wouldn't mind seeing it again." God how I wish we had dialogue options like that for Javik.


It's just sad to think though that despite how misguided and immoral they were in most cases, it was their actions that enabled the current cycle to stand any chance of mounting a defense against the Reapers. 

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

A tip when playing EC: Fear the worst, hope for the best.


+1


A tip for before playing EC: If the DLC has been out for more than an hour, don't go to any gaming sites or even type in "mass effect" in a search engine. Spoilers can ruin your day, especially when you've been waiting almost 4 months.

And for the love of god avoid youtube at all costs XD

#28922
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MegaSovereign wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
Hilarious it is, then. :)


I'll command my Reapers to **** this thread up.


Those arent daydreams you're having... those are indoctrination hallucinations.... :bandit:

#28923
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btw if someone got trouble with time zones:
http://wwp.greenwich.../mountain-time/

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

btw if someone got trouble with time zones:
http://wwp.greenwich.../mountain-time/

Countdown? 
http://www.7is7.com/... 3 Extended Cut

#28925
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Rifneno wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The only indoctrinating that will happen is my Shepard indoctrinating the Reapers.

JUST WATCH.


Most appropriate place for this pic EVER.
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HellishFiend wrote...

Javik: "Fascism was punishable by death in my cycle. ...oh wait...."


I was talking to a friend of mine about Javik and the topic of his douchebaggery to Liara came up. She said she wanted to tell him, "I saw your race destroyed... wouldn't mind seeing it again." God how I wish we had dialogue options like that for Javik.


I would prefer a random Javik conversation, anywhere in the game:

"Why are you stalking the Commander?"
"I... you don't..."
"I do, and there is no need to answer. I already know."

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