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[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

Best LI in DA:O imo.

This I can very well agree on. I fall for her every time.

I used to. After DA2, I can't stand the sight of her. So now I usually play a femwarden and go with Alistair. Sex change and going manhunting would still be preferable to Morrigan.

Oh, you and your hatred for anything involving the Chantry.

Considering your attitude towards the Chantry I'd think you and Morrigan would get along quite well.

I still think Morrigan should've been a romance option for a female Warden, considering her attitude towards men.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

People who got the Control/Synth have all right to feel confused about the ending. People who chose a best Destroy were rewarded with the hint of a cliffhanger.
The former group can be rewarded with playing as a Darth Shepard. The latter will continue with the war. If you played KOTOR: you could decide to slowly deceive the Republic at the final missions without them knowing.

Same can happen for those who chose Control/Synth. If they don't like it, well, then that's Indoctrination for you. But ultimately, no one has to miss out on anything.

And I don't think that there were too many variables. If anything, the game code shows an extensive use of intended pistol switching that itself shows off the ability to micromanage something seemingly unnecessary. So the really necessary variables, like character plots, shouldn't pose any problem at all.

You know what, I'll semi-retract some of my previous statements. I've always said that if indoc were true, they should still give Synth/Ctrl players a chance at redemption. Now I'm leaning closer to just maybe. Why not let players fall into a trap that they were warned against previously in the story, with no way out? Certainly fits the bill of "reapers win" ending like bioware promised, which so far doesn't happen in any of the endings (at face value). The RGB choices will just be another "Morinth romance scene".

I’d like to see something like the following:

Pick Control + Low EMS =  Reapers Win


Pick Control + High EMS = Shepard still dies, but Reapers lose


Pick Destroy + Low EMS = Shepard dies HEROICALLY, but Reapers lose


Pick Destory + High EMS = Shepard lives, Reapers lose “Perfect Ending” 


Pick Synthesis = Shepard becomes like Saren believing that it’s possible to exist with the Reapers. Reapers win. 

Destroy=WIN regardless of EMS, PERIOD

All other  choices, result in Reapers remaining intact, free to continue at will.

There is no compromise, no hugs for the inter-galactic blenders, kill them.

There is no other solution, it's US or THEM, now make up yer friggen' mind already!!

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

[paxxton]

I proposed a few hot topics throughout this thread. Now it's your turn.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 03:32 .

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

Best LI in DA:O imo.

This I can very well agree on. I fall for her every time.

I used to. After DA2, I can't stand the sight of her. So now I usually play a femwarden and go with Alistair. Sex change and going manhunting would still be preferable to Morrigan.

Oh, you and your hatred for anything involving the Chantry.

Considering your attitude towards the Chantry I'd think you and Morrigan would get along quite well.

I still think Morrigan should've been a romance option for a female Warden, considering her attitude towards men.

Yes but she still would want to perform the dark ritual... that would be a bit extreme for some I guess.

[Arian Dynas]

Anyway, another post from our friend in the wings, Doomsday Device.

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The Crucible could basically be a Reaper trap. Nobody knows its origin. It is even being speculated upon in the game that it might be a Reaper Doomsday Device, for all they know. It's pretty suspicious that the plans persist to be around after thousands of cycles of harvesting. It's pretty suspicious that the Reapers would leave a path open to the heart of their fortress, only guarded by a single reaper. It's pretty suspicious the Reapers aren't swarming all over the Crucible.

For all we know, the Extended Cut could turn out to be the thing that nobody wants:

Indoctrination is true, except for the fact that it was inescapable. The Crucible was the Reapers' most sadistic trap. They let organics construct their own demise, cycle, after cycle, after cycle. Shepard was indoctrinated at the end of this cycle, and all the endings were an illusion, including the destroy ending in which Shepard survives. No matter what we choose, we all end up in the Reaper 'Matrix' anyway. The reapers were right. It was inescapable. It will always be. The reapers are the top dogs, and always will be, they told us so from the beginning. It would explain all the ridiculous garden-planet fairy-tale endings where your friends inexplicably flee and survive, and build a new future. Shepard's finally seeing it like the Illusive Man does.

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

Bioware will flip us the finger and say 'you asked for it'.

If this is what they'll do, remember I called it here.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

paxxton wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Control is bad for 2 simple reasons:

1. "Controlling" the Reapers. Haha.

2. No breath scene

Some people see it as a "sacrifice". Yeah, whatever... Even if Shepard wasn't indoctrinated and this is "the only reason TIM couldn't" as the catalyst says, control still seems like a thinly veiled ruse.

Control is the best option possible (if IT is wrong).

Uhhuh, yeah whatever.

[TSA_383]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anyway, another post from our friend in the wings, Doomsday Device.

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The Crucible could basically be a Reaper trap. Nobody knows its origin. It is even being speculated upon in the game that it might be a Reaper Doomsday Device, for all they know. It's pretty suspicious that the plans persist to be around after thousands of cycles of harvesting. It's pretty suspicious that the Reapers would leave a path open to the heart of their fortress, only guarded by a single reaper. It's pretty suspicious the Reapers aren't swarming all over the Crucible.

For all we know, the Extended Cut could turn out to be the thing that nobody wants:

Indoctrination is true, except for the fact that it was inescapable. The Crucible was the Reapers' most sadistic trap. They let organics construct their own demise, cycle, after cycle, after cycle. Shepard was indoctrinated at the end of this cycle, and all the endings were an illusion, including the destroy ending in which Shepard survives. No matter what we choose, we all end up in the Reaper 'Matrix' anyway. The reapers were right. It was inescapable. It will always be. The reapers are the top dogs, and always will be, they told us so from the beginning. It would explain all the ridiculous garden-planet fairy-tale endings where your friends inexplicably flee and survive, and build a new future. Shepard's finally seeing it like the Illusive Man does.

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

Bioware will flip us the finger and say 'you asked for it'.

If this is what they'll do, remember I called it here.

I don't see them ever giving players a choice with no way to "win"
Game design 101: make the game possible to win, otherwise you might as well just give everyone this message:

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Oh, you and your hatred for anything involving the Chantry.

Considering your attitude towards the Chantry I'd think you and Morrigan would get along quite well.

I still think Morrigan should've been a romance option for a female Warden, considering her attitude towards men.

It's more her mindblowing incompetence.  She was sent to Kirkwall to find out what's wrong.  So she arrives at a city where the templars are butchering unarmed women in the street for giving their cousin a sandwich and a couch for one night, and she leaves going "those mages are at it again, we can't have another Tevinter!"  Bonus points for her acting like Elthina was the only one in the city to bother saving from the coming crusade.

As for Morrigan, trust is one of the most important factors in a relationship.  I'm hard pressed to think of any character I trust less than Morrigan.  Not sure what you mean about her attitude towards men?  Self-righteous misandrist scumbags drive me insane but I never got that vibe off her.

[Arian Dynas]

Bumping because I want some opinions, and I only do this for you guys. So, thoughts damn it!

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, thought for my script, mentioned the idea that the Crucible is genuine, but missing a vital component, say something as simple as two wires being reversed, like plugging a AC plug into a DC socket, causing the whole crucible to explode if used, now assuming Coates is a traitor, how do you think this idea would go down? If your EMS is too low, Coates shoots Anderson and the Reapers win, if your EMS is slightly higher, Anderson shrugs off the shot, charges in and swaps the cables himself, being electrocuted in the process, if your EMS is very high, Anderson is able to convince Coates they have a chance and Coates himself breaks indoctrination and charges into the room and switches the cables, dying a hero as he is electrocuted, drawing similarities to the Control panels, though I need a way for the Allied forces to get this all important intel. Hmm, perhaps if Mordin or the Geth are alive then you have a chance to have them stumble across it as the Crucible prepares to dock? Or perhaps if you have more than 300 Crucible specific EMS?

[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Why do you think I said they don't fit the criteria for mammals?  I just like typing with carpal tunnel?

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

Modifié par Rifneno, 19 mai 2012 - 02:35 .

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Oh, you and your hatred for anything involving the Chantry.

Considering your attitude towards the Chantry I'd think you and Morrigan would get along quite well.

I still think Morrigan should've been a romance option for a female Warden, considering her attitude towards men.

It's more her mindblowing incompetence.  She was sent to Kirkwall to find out what's wrong.  So she arrives at a city where the templars are butchering unarmed women in the street for giving their cousin a sandwich and a couch for one night, and she leaves going "those mages are at it again, we can't have another Tevinter!"  Bonus points for her acting like Elthina was the only one in the city to bother saving from the coming crusade.

As for Morrigan, trust is one of the most important factors in a relationship.  I'm hard pressed to think of any character I trust less than Morrigan.  Not sure what you mean about her attitude towards men?  Self-righteous misandrist scumbags drive me insane but I never got that vibe off her.

I forget what it is she says, as I havent played in a while, but I remember getting the feeling she basically thinks of men as being mindless morons.

And you're surprised Leliana was not exactly competent on her own? She was only competent in DAO because she was following the Warden. Her backstory is about how she was incompetent and had to flee to hide in the chantry, wasnt it?

Plus she's kinda right about the Kirkwall mages. A larger than normal number were turning to blood magic, and even Orsino turned to blood magic.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anyway, another post from our friend in the wings, Doomsday Device.

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The Crucible could basically be a Reaper trap. Nobody knows its origin. It is even being speculated upon in the game that it might be a Reaper Doomsday Device, for all they know. It's pretty suspicious that the plans persist to be around after thousands of cycles of harvesting. It's pretty suspicious that the Reapers would leave a path open to the heart of their fortress, only guarded by a single reaper. It's pretty suspicious the Reapers aren't swarming all over the Crucible.

For all we know, the Extended Cut could turn out to be the thing that nobody wants:

Indoctrination is true, except for the fact that it was inescapable. The Crucible was the Reapers' most sadistic trap. They let organics construct their own demise, cycle, after cycle, after cycle. Shepard was indoctrinated at the end of this cycle, and all the endings were an illusion, including the destroy ending in which Shepard survives. No matter what we choose, we all end up in the Reaper 'Matrix' anyway. The reapers were right. It was inescapable. It will always be. The reapers are the top dogs, and always will be, they told us so from the beginning. It would explain all the ridiculous garden-planet fairy-tale endings where your friends inexplicably flee and survive, and build a new future. Shepard's finally seeing it like the Illusive Man does.

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

Bioware will flip us the finger and say 'you asked for it'.

If this is what they'll do, remember I called it here.

I don't see them ever giving players a choice with no way to "win"
Game design 101: make the game possible to win, otherwise you might as well just give everyone this message:

As much as I condone free choice, this kind of an inevitable ending holds beauty from a logical point of view. Because it's hard for me to imagine a logical way of ending the cycle that trillions of trillions of individuals could not do...
But TSA said it, the whole 'casual' fanbase would explode in rage. I would cheer...but that would be it, I guess.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

paxxton wrote...

Xavendithas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

paxxton wrote...
From Organics' perspective. Assume for a moment, however unthinkable this might seem, that the Reapers are in fact saving life by not allowing it to develop means to destroying itself. It's unpleasant for organics who aren't given a chance to try and annihalate themselves but it's necessary to preserve life.

Then to organics, Shepard is the biggest jerk of this cycle. This requires us, as organics, to realign ourselves to the Reapers' logic which we've been fighting for three games. I get it. Life needs to be pruned to make way for new life. Transcendence. Great. This totally makes me feel better about my "friends" (Garrus, Tali, Kaidan etc.) that I've grown to love through the three games, who's relationships could be said to be the core around which Mass Effect revolves. I'm totally not betraying them, I'm helping them against their will.

I see their logic, and I still reject it.

*spit*

That's why you should choose Control and save them by changing Reapers' "programs". Destroy actually kills them all (they are all partially synthetic). Of course this is that only if IT is wrong.

No. No. Just...No.

Even if IT is wrong and the endings are literal, I will gladly walk over and shoot that fraking tube. Every. Time.

Really? And then what?

Do you really need an answer?
OK the reapers are NO LONGER A THREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVAR!!!!!!

Is this starting to sink in?

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anyway, another post from our friend in the wings, Doomsday Device.

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The Crucible could basically be a Reaper trap. Nobody knows its origin. It is even being speculated upon in the game that it might be a Reaper Doomsday Device, for all they know. It's pretty suspicious that the plans persist to be around after thousands of cycles of harvesting. It's pretty suspicious that the Reapers would leave a path open to the heart of their fortress, only guarded by a single reaper. It's pretty suspicious the Reapers aren't swarming all over the Crucible.

For all we know, the Extended Cut could turn out to be the thing that nobody wants:

Indoctrination is true, except for the fact that it was inescapable. The Crucible was the Reapers' most sadistic trap. They let organics construct their own demise, cycle, after cycle, after cycle. Shepard was indoctrinated at the end of this cycle, and all the endings were an illusion, including the destroy ending in which Shepard survives. No matter what we choose, we all end up in the Reaper 'Matrix' anyway. The reapers were right. It was inescapable. It will always be. The reapers are the top dogs, and always will be, they told us so from the beginning. It would explain all the ridiculous garden-planet fairy-tale endings where your friends inexplicably flee and survive, and build a new future. Shepard's finally seeing it like the Illusive Man does.

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

Bioware will flip us the finger and say 'you asked for it'.

If this is what they'll do, remember I called it here.

I thought of that too and iirc it was tossed around a few times here too. I would actually very much like it and it would make sense with the LegendSave. Shep is has become a legend, we remember what Garrus said?
"If this war goes south, maybe we could freeze you for 50,000 years, Shepard. You could go from being merely famous to legendary."
Shep lives on through the time capsules becoming that legend.

[TSA_383]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Bumping because I want some opinions, and I only do this for you guys. So, thoughts damn it!

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, thought for my script, mentioned the idea that the Crucible is genuine, but missing a vital component, say something as simple as two wires being reversed, like plugging a AC plug into a DC socket, causing the whole crucible to explode if used, now assuming Coates is a traitor, how do you think this idea would go down? If your EMS is too low, Coates shoots Anderson and the Reapers win, if your EMS is slightly higher, Anderson shrugs off the shot, charges in and swaps the cables himself, being electrocuted in the process, if your EMS is very high, Anderson is able to convince Coates they have a chance and Coates himself breaks indoctrination and charges into the room and switches the cables, dying a hero as he is electrocuted, drawing similarities to the Control panels, though I need a way for the Allied forces to get this all important intel. Hmm, perhaps if Mordin or the Geth are alive then you have a chance to have them stumble across it as the Crucible prepares to dock? Or perhaps if you have more than 300 Crucible specific EMS?

It'd work, but I really don't think it's a path they'd be likely to go down.
Seems a bit contrived to suddenly say "and now someone has to die because somebody connected some cables the wrong way around"

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Why do you think I said they don't fit the criteria for mammals?  I just like typing with carpal tunnel?

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

You're forgetting one very important point.

THEY'RE ALIENS. I highly doubt our methods of animal classification would even be applicable to most alien species.

What would you call a seagoing creature with gills that births live young, nurses them, yet has moist skin, is amphibious because it carries water in sacks attached to it's gills as a natural oxygen tank? Not so easy to classify is it?

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Why do you think I said they don't fit the criteria for mammals?  I just like typing with carpal tunnel?

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

You're forgetting one very important point.

THEY'RE ALIENS. I highly doubt our methods of animal classification would even be applicable to most alien species.

What would you call a seagoing creature with gills that births live young, nurses them, yet has moist skin, is amphibious because it carries water in sacks attached to it's gills as a natural oxygen tank? Not so easy to classify is it?

I would call that inefficient and therefor highly unlikely.

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

I forget what it is she says, as I havent played in a while, but I remember getting the feeling she basically thinks of men as being mindless morons.

And you're surprised Leliana was not exactly competent on her own? She was only competent in DAO because she was following the Warden. Her backstory is about how she was incompetent and had to flee to hide in the chantry, wasnt it?

Plus she's kinda right about the Kirkwall mages. A larger than normal number were turning to blood magic, and even Orsino turned to blood magic.

Morrigan basically thinks of everyone else as being idiots until proven otherwise.
True enough.  I guess she was kind of... lacking in DAO.  Still, it also seemed quite a turnaround morally.  In DAO, she was against any needless killing.  She didn't even want Loghain's soldiers that just tried to kill her for asking everyone to calm down.  She was opposed to the Right of Annulment in Kinloch Hold even though things were... well, you know how they were.
Of course there were a lot of blood mages in Kirkwall.  The Chantry was locking them in a place with a paper-thin Veil.  You DO know about the Enigma of Kirkwall I hope?  They did the equivalent of taking David Archer to a rock concert.  And then afterwards, they raped, tortured, murdered, or worst of all, tranquilized seemingly random prisoners.  Saying Leliana was kind of right about the mages is like saying Hitler was kind of right about the jews because they acted crazy when he started cooking them.

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Why do you think I said they don't fit the criteria for mammals?  I just like typing with carpal tunnel?

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

You're forgetting one very important point.

THEY'RE ALIENS. I highly doubt our methods of animal classification would even be applicable to most alien species.

What would you call a seagoing creature with gills that births live young, nurses them, yet has moist skin, is amphibious because it carries water in sacks attached to it's gills as a natural oxygen tank? Not so easy to classify is it?

Actually, I'm not forgetting that.  Because I'm not saying what classication they DO fit into, only that they DON'T fit into what we call mammals.  Hence we couldn't be sure they had live birth simply because of their breasts.

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Why do you think I said they don't fit the criteria for mammals?  I just like typing with carpal tunnel?

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme

You're forgetting one very important point.

THEY'RE ALIENS. I highly doubt our methods of animal classification would even be applicable to most alien species.

What would you call a seagoing creature with gills that births live young, nurses them, yet has moist skin, is amphibious because it carries water in sacks attached to it's gills as a natural oxygen tank? Not so easy to classify is it?

Actually, I'm not forgetting that.  Because I'm not saying what classication they DO fit into, only that they DON'T fit into what we call mammals.  Hence we couldn't be sure they had live birth simply because of their breasts.

Oh, well nevermind then. We are of one mind here.

Also, lookie! Another post from someone who can't post.

TJBartelmus writes...
Here is my take on it, which is up for debate, but the catalyst is effectively the leader of the reapers or at least part of them (he admits this by saying "I know you've thought about destroying us.") and when he is talking to Shepard he takes on the form of the child that has been haunting him. The only way to take that form is to have taken it from shepards head. So even if the theory isn't true (which I believe it is) the reapers were in shepards head. No doubt. Also what I found weird was that there was no final boss at the end of Mass Effect 3 like the end of the first 2. Why would they change now? My idea is that they haven't released the full game,and they have been working on this dlc or at least planning it for longer than they have said. A few extra scenes and more explanation wouldn't take 2 months and counting. 

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

I forget what it is she says, as I havent played in a while, but I remember getting the feeling she basically thinks of men as being mindless morons.

And you're surprised Leliana was not exactly competent on her own? She was only competent in DAO because she was following the Warden. Her backstory is about how she was incompetent and had to flee to hide in the chantry, wasnt it?

Plus she's kinda right about the Kirkwall mages. A larger than normal number were turning to blood magic, and even Orsino turned to blood magic.

Morrigan basically thinks of everyone else as being idiots until proven otherwise.
True enough.  I guess she was kind of... lacking in DAO.  Still, it also seemed quite a turnaround morally.  In DAO, she was against any needless killing.  She didn't even want Loghain's soldiers that just tried to kill her for asking everyone to calm down.  She was opposed to the Right of Annulment in Kinloch Hold even though things were... well, you know how they were.
Of course there were a lot of blood mages in Kirkwall.  The Chantry was locking them in a place with a paper-thin Veil.  You DO know about the Enigma of Kirkwall I hope?  They did the equivalent of taking David Archer to a rock concert.  And then afterwards, they raped, tortured, murdered, or worst of all, tranquilized seemingly random prisoners.  Saying Leliana was kind of right about the mages is like saying Hitler was kind of right about the jews because they acted crazy when he started cooking them.

Well now that I've been Godwin'd I assume the argument is over.

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Bumping because I want some opinions, and I only do this for you guys. So, thoughts damn it!

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, thought for my script, mentioned the idea that the Crucible is genuine, but missing a vital component, say something as simple as two wires being reversed, like plugging a AC plug into a DC socket, causing the whole crucible to explode if used, now assuming Coates is a traitor, how do you think this idea would go down? If your EMS is too low, Coates shoots Anderson and the Reapers win, if your EMS is slightly higher, Anderson shrugs off the shot, charges in and swaps the cables himself, being electrocuted in the process, if your EMS is very high, Anderson is able to convince Coates they have a chance and Coates himself breaks indoctrination and charges into the room and switches the cables, dying a hero as he is electrocuted, drawing similarities to the Control panels, though I need a way for the Allied forces to get this all important intel. Hmm, perhaps if Mordin or the Geth are alive then you have a chance to have them stumble across it as the Crucible prepares to dock? Or perhaps if you have more than 300 Crucible specific EMS?

Make the Crucible a matter pump. It would inject matter into the Citadel Mass Accelerator and fire it at set points in space.

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[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

I forget what it is she says, as I havent played in a while, but I remember getting the feeling she basically thinks of men as being mindless morons.

And you're surprised Leliana was not exactly competent on her own? She was only competent in DAO because she was following the Warden. Her backstory is about how she was incompetent and had to flee to hide in the chantry, wasnt it?

Plus she's kinda right about the Kirkwall mages. A larger than normal number were turning to blood magic, and even Orsino turned to blood magic.

Morrigan basically thinks of everyone else as being idiots until proven otherwise.
True enough.  I guess she was kind of... lacking in DAO.  Still, it also seemed quite a turnaround morally.  In DAO, she was against any needless killing.  She didn't even want Loghain's soldiers that just tried to kill her for asking everyone to calm down.  She was opposed to the Right of Annulment in Kinloch Hold even though things were... well, you know how they were.
Of course there were a lot of blood mages in Kirkwall.  The Chantry was locking them in a place with a paper-thin Veil.  You DO know about the Enigma of Kirkwall I hope?  They did the equivalent of taking David Archer to a rock concert.  And then afterwards, they raped, tortured, murdered, or worst of all, tranquilized seemingly random prisoners.  Saying Leliana was kind of right about the mages is like saying Hitler was kind of right about the jews because they acted crazy when he started cooking them.

Well now that I've been Godwin'd I assume the argument is over.

*facepalm*  I thought you were smart enough to realize Godwin's Law doesn't apply to discussions actually about genocide.  It was a running joke about people comparing politicians they don't agree with or CEOs they don't like and such to Hitler.  Comparing a match to a sun.  Now the Internet is full of people screaming it like a meme in conversations where the comparison is actually valid such as to other brutal dictators that killed en masse over race or religion.  Godwin's Law has become exactly what it originally made fun of: a mindless attack used mostly when reason has been abandoned.

You're right about one thing though.  It sure as hell is over.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

I forget what it is she says, as I havent played in a while, but I remember getting the feeling she basically thinks of men as being mindless morons.

And you're surprised Leliana was not exactly competent on her own? She was only competent in DAO because she was following the Warden. Her backstory is about how she was incompetent and had to flee to hide in the chantry, wasnt it?

Plus she's kinda right about the Kirkwall mages. A larger than normal number were turning to blood magic, and even Orsino turned to blood magic.

Morrigan basically thinks of everyone else as being idiots until proven otherwise.
True enough.  I guess she was kind of... lacking in DAO.  Still, it also seemed quite a turnaround morally.  In DAO, she was against any needless killing.  She didn't even want Loghain's soldiers that just tried to kill her for asking everyone to calm down.  She was opposed to the Right of Annulment in Kinloch Hold even though things were... well, you know how they were.
Of course there were a lot of blood mages in Kirkwall.  The Chantry was locking them in a place with a paper-thin Veil.  You DO know about the Enigma of Kirkwall I hope?  They did the equivalent of taking David Archer to a rock concert.  And then afterwards, they raped, tortured, murdered, or worst of all, tranquilized seemingly random prisoners.  Saying Leliana was kind of right about the mages is like saying Hitler was kind of right about the jews because they acted crazy when he started cooking them.

Well now that I've been Godwin'd I assume the argument is over.

*facepalm*  I thought you were smart enough to realize Godwin's Law doesn't apply to discussions actually about genocide.  It was a running joke about people comparing politicians they don't agree with or CEOs they don't like and such to Hitler.  Comparing a match to a sun.  Now the Internet is full of people screaming it like a meme in conversations where the comparison is actually valid such as to other brutal dictators that killed en masse over race or religion.  Godwin's Law has become exactly what it originally made fun of: a mindless attack used mostly when reason has been abandoned.

You're right about one thing though.  It sure as hell is over.

Well thats good. I was just using the Godwin excuse to try and end the argument since I was tired of it.