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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#29276
Lokanaiya

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waldstr18 wrote...

is it too early to tell you "i told you so"?


Harbinger's voice says "SO BE IT. THE CYCLE CONTINUES." if you do the reject ending. Just sayin'.

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LazyTechGuy

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

You can reject the Catalyst now. Doing so automatically dooms the Galaxy for this cycle and everyone dies.

Doesn't sound like IT. Dunno yet.

I appreciate that we can now reject him, but really? Everybody dies? Couldn't they at least have added the chance to win conventionally with very high EMS?


That's still possible. People are just now trying to explore that. 

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MissLiya

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So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?

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MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


It means part of the theory has been confirmed. Harbinger is posing as the Catalyst. So can anyone confirm this still happens at the highest readiness and EMS?

Modifié par Domanese, 26 juin 2012 - 11:14 .


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Silhouett3

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Wasn't that the literalists who thought Catalyst was a different entity from a Reaper and Crucible "changed him"B)

I'd say we just scored another for the IT

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Domanese wrote...

It means part of the theory has been confirmed. Harbinger is posing as the Catalyst. 


My mind is completely blown.....I must be the happiest guy on the forums right now :lol::lol::lol::o:o:o

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dorktainian

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MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago

#29283
LazyTechGuy

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Multiple people saying the voice sounds very similar to Harby's.

Reject may be the new way to reject IT. Though it appears to be an automatic loss. Still trying to confirm that though. Could be better with better EMS.

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MissMaster_2

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dorktainian wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago


So we win.

#29285
MissLiya

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Whats up with the statment of "NO new endings"?

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DirtyPhoenix

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I have returned, spoiled I may be.. can't stop the curiosity. So We win?????? :D

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So is it still part of the IT that "it was all a dream" is the actual "true" interpretation meant by the Bioware writers, and that they are going to give us all the totes brilliant "real" ending later?

Or have you guys basically retreated to "a fringe interpretation not explicitly contradicted by the story as shown that you may prefer as headcanon"?

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Vox Draco

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Domanese wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


It means part of the theory has been confirmed. Harbinger is posing as the Catalyst. So can anyone confirm this still happens at the highest readiness and EMS?


sadly, the most important part of IT, "rejecting" the Reaper-Logic. leads to automatic Reaper win? Plus there are cutscenes/epilogues explaining what happened to the planets after you picked one colour? *sigh* All this makes it hard for me to believe in IT being confirmed...but maybe someone finds the ultimate hidden clue?

Ah...I thought I had prepared myself for the dissapointment, but I still feel sad somehow...especially as there doesn't seem to be a reunion-ending for Shepard...the only thing that had made the literal-interpretation acceptable for me Posted Image 

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Domanese wrote...

It means part of the theory has been confirmed. Harbinger is posing as the Catalyst. 


My mind is completely blown.....I must be the happiest guy on the forums right now :lol::lol::lol::o:o:o


LOL I'd say that this is how Bioware decided to have thier cake and eat it too.  If you chose Synthesis or Control there is nothing that shows you if it is a trick.  Therefore it is absolute truth for those Shepards.  If you Choose Destroy, then they gave the player enough wiggle room to decide (in their head) if both EDI and the Geth are still alive.  (My headcannon from what ohter people have been saying is that EDIbot got detroyed but since the normandy is working I think EDI herself is sill around.  Plus no one sees the Geth dying nor living after Destroy is chosen)

And if you reject everything then you get to see that that brat is more than what he seems (which is what most people who chose destroy thought anyway).  And while this cycle didn't have what it took, you gave the next cycle enough info to get it done.

Modifié par Ilzairspar, 26 juin 2012 - 11:23 .


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Domanese

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago


So we win.



Not quite. We still have no idea what happens in the other two endings Control and Synthesis. Even with the extra scene of Liara heading to jungle planet this still could be what Shepard pictures in his mind. And it doesn't sound like theres any other footage past the breathing scene from people whom have played it but we do not know if that is maxed Readiness or not. (I cannot confirm it because I cannot yet play the EC)

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MissLiya

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago


So we win.


I dont know how about you, but I dont feel like I win, because now we have to wait till next explanation? And when it comes? I`m tired waiting. What the hell is this? Puzzle? I`m so damn close to be done with EA, so close. 
I just want the ending that fits universe and makes sence. I dont want to go through a labyrinth picking up the crumbs for this. 

Modifié par MissLiya, 26 juin 2012 - 11:24 .


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It's going to take a day or two to get reaction and anaylsis compiled. I'd hold off on I-told-you-sos from any of the sides at this point - but I suspect Ilzairspar isn't far off the mark.

Will have to reserve my judgment but the Reject ending initial reports make me wonder...

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LazyTechGuy

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People are saying they removed the "1M1" from the Citadel scenes.

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nullobject

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago


So we win.



Erm, shouldn't rejecting the Starchild result in Shepard waking up, not total failure?

Perhaps I win, as I predicted 2 days ago that the EC would have at least one ambiguous element (e.g. Starchild's voice sounding vaguely like Harbinger), and that ITs would proclaim this as absolute confimration of their theory.

Modifié par nullobject, 26 juin 2012 - 11:35 .


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Arian Dynas

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... I'm spoiled. And confused.

And potentially disappointed. I feel like my head is floating.

This is 2 gigabytes worth of stuff? Really?

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Arian Dynas

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Could there maybe be more, locked until it's released everywhere?

Or am I just looking for a way to save this?

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MissLiya

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Could there maybe be more, locked until it's released everywhere?

Or am I just looking for a way to save this?

you are, mate, you are... I`m hopeless as you :crying:

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Domanese

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Oops. Double post

Modifié par Domanese, 26 juin 2012 - 11:36 .


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Domanese

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Domanese wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

... I'm spoiled. And confused.

And potentially disappointed. I feel like my head is floating.

This is 2 gigabytes worth of stuff? Really?


Cannot really say for certain if those things are true or not since I still can't DL the extended cut quite yet. Im going off what others are claiming. Though I do hear the sound of agonized screams in Arizona. I think Spoony's heart exploded. 



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MissLiya

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And whats up with squadmates who were teleported to Normandy from Earth?