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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Arian Dynas

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I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.

#29302
Dantexr3

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We can't confirm or debunk because it's all still the same with the EC. We'll have to wait for a ME4.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.


Care to speculate about why Bioware would put several months of effort into making a long-promised ending DLC, that doesn't actually contain the "real" ending?

Any why would they say it's the only ending DLC they will be making, if the totes brilliant "real" ending is still on the way? Didn't they start on it ages ago, as part of their greatest twist ending in gaming history?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.


It is very likely that IT is true:

TLK Spires wrote...
i can confirm that the 'reject all options' choice is real. it only happens if you shoot the star child. his voice will get all scary, he'll say 'so be it' and guess what? YOU LOSE ANYWAY. you see a hologram of liara saying they failed


I see this as a first clue that IT may be correct.

If you reject - according to people - starchild sounds like Harbinger.This may further suggest the theory that Starchild is controlled by the reapers.

Liara says they failed to win against the reapers and starchild says "so be it."
It's an indication that IT may be true.

Part of the theory discusses how "Starchild" is just a fabrication of the Repears to throw shepard off - and have him not choose "Destroy".

When you reject the ending - and Starchild says "so be it" (in Reaper voice) - and Liara says that they weren't able to succeed - it further indicates that Starchild was just a fabrication by the reapers. 

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MissLiya wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Could there maybe be more, locked until it's released everywhere?

Or am I just looking for a way to save this?

you are, mate, you are... I`m hopeless as you :crying:


I agree with MissLiya, there aint no saving it now... Lets face it IT never existed and BW never intended to include it.. What a waste of FUDGING TIME!!!! I feel very tempted to go trade in all my ME and BW related games seeing they dont give a ****!

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nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.


Care to speculate about why Bioware would put several months of effort into making a long-promised ending DLC, that doesn't actually contain the "real" ending?

Any why would they say it's the only ending DLC they will be making, if the totes brilliant "real" ending is still on the way? Didn't they start on it ages ago, as part of their greatest twist ending in gaming history?

care to speculate why my kaidan magically teleported from Earth to Normandy again? 

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nullobject wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

So Harbinger is Catalyst? WTF is this means?


called this ages ago


So we win.



Erm, shouldn't rejecting the Starchild result in Shepard waking up, not total failure?

Perhaps I win, as I predicted 2 days ago that the EC would have at least one ambiguous element (e.g. Starchild's voice sounding vaguely like Harbinger), and that ITs would proclaim this as absolute confimration of their theory.

No, I don't think it would. Shepard's not a person of inaction. To outright reject the catalyst when the option to "destroy" the reapers is right there is kind of symbolic of giving up. Not entirely like some would think of synthesis, because I guess this is more like indifference and... and my game just FROZE after Coates finished talking to me...
<_<

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Indeed sound like nothing has been changed from the looks of it and is still open ended like Total Recall. Im honestly not sure how to take this.

Modifié par Domanese, 26 juin 2012 - 11:49 .


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MissLiya wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.


Care to speculate about why Bioware would put several months of effort into making a long-promised ending DLC, that doesn't actually contain the "real" ending?

Any why would they say it's the only ending DLC they will be making, if the totes brilliant "real" ending is still on the way? Didn't they start on it ages ago, as part of their greatest twist ending in gaming history?

care to speculate why my kaidan magically teleported from Earth to Normandy again? 


Easy, Bioware don't pay as much attention to this as you do. Next?

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TullyAckland (BioWare) just posted this:

You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.


Mind Blown....again! :o

Modifié par v0rt3x22, 26 juin 2012 - 11:49 .


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If I wasn't at school right now, I'd probably listen to Vigil all day and then cry myself to sleep lol

but honestly :(
this is all so sad

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Vox Draco wrote...

sadly, the most important part of IT, "rejecting" the Reaper-Logic. leads to automatic Reaper win? Plus there are cutscenes/epilogues explaining what happened to the planets after you picked one colour? *sigh* All this makes it hard for me to believe in IT being confirmed...but maybe someone finds the ultimate hidden clue?

Ah...I thought I had prepared myself for the dissapointment, but I still feel sad somehow...especially as there doesn't seem to be a reunion-ending for Shepard...the only thing that had made the literal-interpretation acceptable for me Posted Image 



For indoctrination to work it's magic in insidious ways, the mind should put at least some trust in it otherwise a hostile mind would have to be destroyed. No way a Shep shooting Catalyst would mean that Shed trusts it. That's like the biggest reason of IT in the first place: Shepard being friendly with the Catalyst which is a Reaper. It must be a ruse. Following the pathway Reapers offer leads to annihilation.

I'm in Europe, there are many more hours before I get to play it. So far this's my impression about the reject ending.

Modifié par Silhouett3, 26 juin 2012 - 11:52 .


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Plus now I fee like a moron for believing Gamble again!!!

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you guys knew all the stuff we are planning, you'd hold onto your copy of me3 forever."
http://twitter.com/g...942797880541185 

It should be...

"Easiest. Day. Ever. Seriously , if you guys just knew all the things we did to rape the franchise, you'd trade it in and forget BW forever."

http://twitter.com/g...42797880541185 

What a fudging joke.

Modifié par WolfyZA, 26 juin 2012 - 11:53 .


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Can someone upload EC game footage?

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nullobject wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I guess it's neither confirmed nor denied.

I guess I was right then. The EC is apparently a "tide over until the real expansion/DLC/sequel"

I think.

It's all so confusing right now, and I feel shell shocked.


Care to speculate about why Bioware would put several months of effort into making a long-promised ending DLC, that doesn't actually contain the "real" ending?

Any why would they say it's the only ending DLC they will be making, if the totes brilliant "real" ending is still on the way? Didn't they start on it ages ago, as part of their greatest twist ending in gaming history?

care to speculate why my kaidan magically teleported from Earth to Normandy again? 


Easy, Bioware don't pay as much attention to this as you do. Next?

If bugs like this doesnt bother developers who made a game, they should quit making games. And you should quit this thread. 

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EVERYONE!

CALM DOWN!

Don't get angry, there's no point to losing control.

Let's think about this rationally.

There might be something here we are missing, there might not, either way, there is no reason to start a riot over it.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

If I wasn't at school right now, I'd probably listen to Vigil all day and then cry myself to sleep lol

but honestly :(
this is all so sad


*Hugs tightly*

#29318
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Arian Dynas wrote...

EVERYONE!

CALM DOWN!

Don't get angry, there's no point to losing control.

Let's think about this rationally.

There might be something here we are missing, there might not, either way, there is no reason to start a riot over it.


Might be a bit hard but I am doing my best. After all i haven't had a crack at it yet and from the sounds of it neither have you. ^_^

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You guys should be celebrating!

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

You guys should be celebrating!

what we should celebrate? 
greediness of EA? 

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

You guys should be celebrating!


uh.. why?

#29322
Arian Dynas

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

You guys should be celebrating!


Um, why?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

EVERYONE!

CALM DOWN!

Don't get angry, there's no point to losing control.

Let's think about this rationally.

There might be something here we are missing, there might not, either way, there is no reason to start a riot over it.


There is something here you're missing, namely:

The endings you got are the real endings. Bioware actually meant for you to take them seriously. The people who made them thought they were good. They really didn't expect them to be received so poorly.

And even though most people dislike them, they aren't prepared to admit they screwed up. So they've made this free DLC that addresses a few of the issues that can be fixed without a massive amount of work, and within that they've tossed a bone to people believeing in IT, in the hope they can retain you people as fans.

It's that simple. There are no more endings coming. The harby voice is the bone they've tossed you, to nourish your headcanon if you can't cope with the word of god.

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MissLiya wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

You guys should be celebrating!

what we should celebrate? 
greediness of EA? 


Get off your high horse. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said before, and I am sick of bile.

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Has anybody tried playing the ending with +4k EMS to see if it unlocks any easter eggs?