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[Zertz]

Okay. I think IT may be done. If this is fake ending 2 of 2, then SP DLC needs to launch soon (very few months?). That's test one.

But the Refusal option needs to be investigated. Catalyst doesn't sound like ME2/Arrival Harbinger when he says, "SO BE IT." If someone can compare that voice to the rumoured "SHEPARD" garbled line from Harbinger in the new Beam Run sequence that'd be interesting to get the result of.

I suspect there isn't a connection though.

[Razerath]

masster blaster wrote...

Razerath wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Razerath wrote...

I was right and a lot of you flamed me. I saw the end for what it was almost exactly as the EC tells it. There is proof of what I said in this topic and also this one that had been locked due to TONS of flaming against me.

http://social.biowar.../index/12730160

Just came in to say, those of you who just completely called me stupid are just plain mean and ignorant. I said the Catalyst was an ally and probably the best one organics have ever had and you all told me I was a troll.

Peace.

ya but Biowae never siad IT was wrong so ther may be future DLC on the horizon to lead up to ME4 in which what choices Shepard made at the end of ME3 will result in ME4 and maybe there will be consiquences, but You just have to belive.

Oh GOD, you couldn't see the ending for what it was because you lacked imagination to fill in the gaps. You get an EC holding your hand through it all which clearly debunks the IT as well as it can be without there being a message at the end saying, "IT was wrong".

You seriously need to give it up.

Well then why would they have a leak that Shepard if you pick Control will be the new villan in ME4 and why did they leak that if you pick destroy that it's the bestone out of all the endings.

Wow dude, wow.

[masster blaster]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Capeo wrote...

People, the already stated both that all SP DLC will be prior to the ending of ME3 and that future ME games will take place PRIOR to the events of this trilogy because, as Hudson said, they're would be no point setting future games in a "wasteland".

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Not necicsarly if I was a writer and did not want to disprove anything i would allow the Player to CONTINUE to see what they wanted to see even though it may not look like as it seems.

[v0rt3x22]

Overload_C14 wrote...

She doesnt seem to stand right, To me the womans lower body looks like a quarians, although her head seems asari shaped :S

hahahha this is getting really funny. 

Identifying the unknown alien 

[ThisOneIsPunny]

Razerath wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Razerath wrote...

I was right and a lot of you flamed me. I saw the end for what it was almost exactly as the EC tells it. There is proof of what I said in this topic and also this one that had been locked due to TONS of flaming against me.

http://social.biowar.../index/12730160

Just came in to say, those of you who just completely called me stupid are just plain mean and ignorant. I said the Catalyst was an ally and probably the best one organics have ever had and you all told me I was a troll.

Peace.

ya but Biowae never siad IT was wrong so ther may be future DLC on the horizon to lead up to ME4 in which what choices Shepard made at the end of ME3 will result in ME4 and maybe there will be consiquences, but You just have to belive.

Oh GOD, you couldn't see the ending for what it was because you lacked imagination to fill in the gaps. You get an EC holding your hand through it all which clearly debunks the IT as well as it can be without there being a message at the end saying, "IT was wrong".

You seriously need to give it up.

Really, just leave. There's no point in you jumping in here to try and change our thinking and what do you know, a lot of the evidence found in the game wasn't removed or debunked at all. It's actually looking like Merizan was right about IT not being confirmed OR denied, and there's even more to speculate on now than prior.

So, suck it up and be on your way Princess.
We've got analyzing to do.

[v0rt3x22]

Zertz wrote...

Okay. I think IT may be done. If this is fake ending 2 of 2, then SP DLC needs to launch soon (very few months?). That's test one.

But the Refusal option needs to be investigated. Catalyst doesn't sound like ME2/Arrival Harbinger when he says, "SO BE IT." If someone can compare that voice to the rumoured "SHEPARD" garbled line from Harbinger in the new Beam Run sequence that'd be interesting to get the result of.

I suspect there isn't a connection though.

You need to remember that EC was never planned.
IT may have been.

[OdanUrr]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Confused. Then the endings wouldn't be how?

With Shepard being alive at the end - doesn't that smell like continuation to you?
How did you interpret that scene?

First, I haven't seen the EC. My interpretation of the original breath scene (I don't know whether it's been modified now) was that it was a small easter egg that suggested Shepard survived the Destroy ending (ala ME1).

What I meant about the endings was that if you release something after them, then those are not really the endings. If you release B after A and B takes place after A, then A isn't really the ending but B is.

[nullobject]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Whaaa? That makes no sense to me. Why not?

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me. It would be wasted effort - if the sequence already establishes that it is a hallucination, why expand on it? Why not spend the time on the "real, true" ending DLC?

[masster blaster]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

I posted this before - but I guess it got lost in the speed of how fast this particular thread goes -

Someone noticed that when you pick the "Reject" ending - the grandfather at the end is replaced with an Asari.

It seems to me this may be Liara and your blue baby?

That's something that makes absolutely no sense to me
if the Reapers wipe out everything in the Refusal ending, the Asari ought to be dead too

Well it's Liara and my guess is tha t she had enof time to modify the beaconcapsule and remember Asari live for a thousand years so who know.

First, it's not Liara. Second, you're missing the point. If you really refuse the starchild's offer, the cycle continues and the Reaper WIPE OUT the Asari.

ya but She could have modify her image and used it in her time capsule because remember the Prothean Vi looked like a Prothean so maybe she did the same thing.

[MissLiya]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Razerath wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Razerath wrote...

I was right and a lot of you flamed me. I saw the end for what it was almost exactly as the EC tells it. There is proof of what I said in this topic and also this one that had been locked due to TONS of flaming against me.

http://social.biowar.../index/12730160

Just came in to say, those of you who just completely called me stupid are just plain mean and ignorant. I said the Catalyst was an ally and probably the best one organics have ever had and you all told me I was a troll.

Peace.

ya but Biowae never siad IT was wrong so ther may be future DLC on the horizon to lead up to ME4 in which what choices Shepard made at the end of ME3 will result in ME4 and maybe there will be consiquences, but You just have to belive.

Oh GOD, you couldn't see the ending for what it was because you lacked imagination to fill in the gaps. You get an EC holding your hand through it all which clearly debunks the IT as well as it can be without there being a message at the end saying, "IT was wrong".

You seriously need to give it up.

Really, just leave. There's no point in you jumping in here to try and change our thinking and what do you know, a lot of the evidence found in the game wasn't removed or debunked at all. It's actually looking like Merizan was right about IT not being confirmed OR denied, and there's even more to speculate on now than prior.

So, suck it up and be on your way Princess.
We've got analyzing to do.

that`s right, it`s not the end. 

[Modernpreacher]

The alien at the end of Refuse is just another humanoid race that has evolved since the last Reaper invasion. The Reapers always leave primitive races alone so the cycle can continue, so that eventually one of them can get to the top of the tower and pick one of the RGB colors...

Hopefully next time around.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

Next time they're really going to Balefire the sodding Reapers.

[v0rt3x22]

OdanUrr wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Confused. Then the endings wouldn't be how?

With Shepard being alive at the end - doesn't that smell like continuation to you?
How did you interpret that scene?

First, I haven't seen the EC. My interpretation of the original breath scene (I don't know whether it's been modified now) was that it was a small easter egg that suggested Shepard survived the Destroy ending (ala ME1).

What I meant about the endings was that if you release something after them, then those are not really the endings. If you release B after A and B takes place after A, then A isn't really the ending but B is.

My point exactly - which is why I never interepreted anything we got from BioWare so far "A true ending". I think its a build up to something else that's coming.

Have you seen the matrix trilogy?

In the second movie you see the guy who's possessed by Agent Smith - waking up. And that's how the movie ended. And it was a direct tie in to the 3rd movie.

That's how I interpret the "Shepard alive" thing (which btw is still in EC)

[Nemesis1812]

masster blaster wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

All the endings (except refusal)

Destroy: Reapers are destroyed along with geth and edi, all fleets manage to warp into their home systems, except joker, Mass relays are damaged. Ending is narrated by Hackett, he tells how everthing will eventually be rebuild, including the Citadel. Normandy is repaired and flies off the jungle planet.

Control: Shepard takes control of all the reapers. Same things happen, but the epilogue is narrated by Shepard with some reaper echo in his voice. He directs the reapers to help galaxy rebuild and stays as its guardian.

Synthesis: All synthetic and organic life merge to better understand each other. EDI narrates the ending and tells how she is now truly alive. Reapers are freed, they become friendly and help the galaxy rebuild, the knowledge of the preserved civilizations inside them is shared among all. Organics and syntethics, including the reapers, continue to exist in harmony.

I' m sorry but I actually had to do some work for the past couple of hours so I missed some stuff!  Is this it then?  These are our options?  No big reveal, no trick to the ending?  The Synthesis abomination is truly the intented best ending:crying:

is IT dead?

[TiminatorT2000]

v0rt3x22 wrote...


You need to remember that EC was never planned.
IT may have been.

I think a possiblity is that IT was originally planned but they were rushed and were forced to stick with these endings. Even if it is planned and they release dlc after this that comes out with the "real" ending I think what they did here makes very little sense. 

There's no reason for them to have not to release this dlc as  extending IT if they plan to do it all along, there's more then enough content here to extend IT and come out with new endings, if they do come out with IT dlc then I don't think I'll be buying it, I've been jerked around enough.

[v0rt3x22]

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Whaaa? That makes no sense to me. Why not?

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me. It would be wasted effort - if the sequence already establishes that it is a hallucination, why expand on it? Why not spend the time on the "real, true" ending DLC?

I have an explaination - but it pisses off the guys who don't believe in IT.
My theory is two fold - 

a) People didn't like it
People didn't understand it.

For those who didn't like it - they are trying to make it better
For those who didn't understand it - as you say - they are expanding on it to make it stand out more and obvious.

Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

[OdanUrr]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Have you seen the matrix trilogy?

Enjoyed Plato's Allegory in the first one.

Enjoyed the fighting in the second one.

Disappointed with the third one.

[v0rt3x22]

Nemesis1812 wrote...

is IT dead?

According to some yes - not me. I'm still fighting here. could really use some help 

[FellishBeast]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Whaaa? That makes no sense to me. Why not?

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me. It would be wasted effort - if the sequence already establishes that it is a hallucination, why expand on it? Why not spend the time on the "real, true" ending DLC?

I have an explaination - but it pisses off the guys who don't believe in IT.
My theory is two fold - 

a) People didn't like it
People didn't understand it.

For those who didn't like it - they are trying to make it better
For those who didn't understand it - as you say - they are expanding on it to make it stand out more and obvious.

Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

Dude...I'm sorry, but it's over. This is coming from someone who was expecting IT to be true...

[v0rt3x22]

OdanUrr wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Have you seen the matrix trilogy?

Enjoyed Plato's Allegory in the first one.

Enjoyed the fighting in the second one.

Disappointed with the third one.

Past the point. Go read what I wrote about the second movie and how it ends.
It's an open ending - similar to the one we have here.

[nullobject]

v0rt3x22 wrote...
Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

[Silhouett3]

From what I'm hearing the ending at face value doesn't make sense yet again:

Catalyst isn't influenced/"changed" by Crucible, hence the Reject ending.
For the RGB choices to work out as Catalyst says, you must be trusting a lying Reaper.
If you don't accept the Reaper way of thinking and "end this on own terms" then the Catalyst doesn't feel necessary anymore to talk with a voice similar to a child.

So the ending still sounds like manipulation to meB) Correct me if I'm missing anything

[v0rt3x22]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...


You need to remember that EC was never planned.
IT may have been.

I think a possiblity is that IT was originally planned but they were rushed and were forced to stick with these endings. Even if it is planned and they release dlc after this that comes out with the "real" ending I think what they did here makes very little sense. 

There's no reason for them to have not to release this dlc as  extending IT if they plan to do it all along, there's more then enough content here to extend IT and come out with new endings, if they do come out with IT dlc then I don't think I'll be buying it, I've been jerked around enough.

Well but this is where we are and I have no reason whatsoever to belief that IT has been debunked.

[davishepard]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Whaaa? That makes no sense to me. Why not?

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me. It would be wasted effort - if the sequence already establishes that it is a hallucination, why expand on it? Why not spend the time on the "real, true" ending DLC?

I have an explaination - but it pisses off the guys who don't believe in IT.
My theory is two fold - 

a) People didn't like it
People didn't understand it.

For those who didn't like it - they are trying to make it better
For those who didn't understand it - as you say - they are expanding on it to make it stand out more and obvious.

Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

You are not suppose to exam the game files to understand the story. 

[Razerath]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Razerath wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Razerath wrote...

I was right and a lot of you flamed me. I saw the end for what it was almost exactly as the EC tells it. There is proof of what I said in this topic and also this one that had been locked due to TONS of flaming against me.

http://social.biowar.../index/12730160

Just came in to say, those of you who just completely called me stupid are just plain mean and ignorant. I said the Catalyst was an ally and probably the best one organics have ever had and you all told me I was a troll.

Peace.

ya but Biowae never siad IT was wrong so ther may be future DLC on the horizon to lead up to ME4 in which what choices Shepard made at the end of ME3 will result in ME4 and maybe there will be consiquences, but You just have to belive.

Oh GOD, you couldn't see the ending for what it was because you lacked imagination to fill in the gaps. You get an EC holding your hand through it all which clearly debunks the IT as well as it can be without there being a message at the end saying, "IT was wrong".

You seriously need to give it up.

Really, just leave. There's no point in you jumping in here to try and change our thinking and what do you know, a lot of the evidence found in the game wasn't removed or debunked at all. It's actually looking like Merizan was right about IT not being confirmed OR denied, and there's even more to speculate on now than prior.

So, suck it up and be on your way Princess.
We've got analyzing to do.

Losers gonna lose. BioWare didn't say that Reapers aren't actually costumed mimes either.

I will leave because of idiots like you. It's unbelieveable that I called this ALL just a day or so ago and was flamed into my thread being locked by people just like you or more specifically The Angry One. I called almost everything that just happened in the EC in this thread: http://social.biowar.../index/12730160

And do you know why I called it all? Because it was damn obvious from the first endings if you had half a brain and didn't have ADD. All you had to do was fill in a few gaps with a little logic to get to the point where you could say, "Oh **** the Reapers are doing this all for the greater good? Starchild is my friend actually?" and if you could accept that you would have seen the nice ending for what it was intended to be.

This IT theory craps all over BioWare who actually wrote a decent ending and had to make an EC just for you all to have your hands held through this. How uttely lame.

Good ****ing bye.

[v0rt3x22]

nullobject wrote...

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this.