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[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Well thats good. I was just using the Godwin excuse to try and end the argument since I was tired of it.

Here's an idea: Stop starting it then.

[Arian Dynas]

Oh just kiss and get over it already you two.

No I don't give a **** if you're both men, kiss now and get over it or I'll get the Winchester.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

RavenEyry wrote...

Mr. Sparkle's logic does have the possible defense that HE at least believes it. That doesn't excuse Shepard having no choice but to agree with him though.

Well one thing is for certain, we do have to pick something, or suffer a 'crit-miss-fail.'

[prettz]

so I got the Predator to show up on my side.

[DirtyPhoenix]

paxxton wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Control is bad for 2 simple reasons:

1. "Controlling" the Reapers. Haha.

2. No breath scene

Some people see it as a "sacrifice". Yeah, whatever... Even if Shepard wasn't indoctrinated and this is "the only reason TIM couldn't" as the catalyst says, control still seems like a thinly veiled ruse.

Control is the best option possible (if IT is wrong) and starchild is truthful.

Fixed xD, Though I can't still wrap my head around what he says. "You'll lose everything you have", whats the guarantee that Shep won't lose his/her humanity/mind andf restart the cycle? It certainly counts among everything he has.
*Mordin voice* Too many unknowns... problematic.

Modifié par pirate1802, 19 mai 2012 - 03:50 .

[hoodaticus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Good point. Cherry on top: content doesn't have to be visible or usable in normal gameplay to be considered for a game's rating either. Ever since that GTA "hot coffee" fiasco, they count locked, dummied, anything that's on the disc no matter how accessable.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually kind of wondered before if asari even have... those. Since they actually reproduce via that mindlink thing they do. And we've never seen a pregnant asari so it's not really guaranteed they have live birth. Could be eggs or something. They're not technically mammals because they don't fit one of the more basic criteria: hair. ... Anyway, nice to have an answer. Not so nice to have nightmares about it.

They wouldn't have "that rack" if they laid eggs.

Try telling that to the duck-billed platypus.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

estebanus wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Just when I thought I could'nt feel any dumber. To that point, here is my simple logic. IF star brat controls the Reapers, THEN star brat must die. end of line.

Now THAT is a bottom line I can accept!

Right alongside his semi-squishy blenders. For the Win!!

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Big Bad wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

What did Leliana say? A tear here, a little rip there, to show some skin.. I understand.
Oh wait... a Banshee doesn't wear any clothes. I wonder where else would a mutated and what it seems pregnant Asari pump its little grey mutant offspring through?

Ugh.  Now I'm going to be thinking about the Banshee reproductive track all evening.  Thanks ever so much!

Not to worry, they're ALIEN afterall.............................LOL

[Unschuld]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

I thought of that too and iirc it was tossed around a few times here too. I would actually very much like it and it would make sense with the LegendSave. Shep is has become a legend, we remember what Garrus said?
"If this war goes south, maybe we could freeze you for 50,000 years, Shepard. You could go from being merely famous to legendary."
Shep lives on through the time capsules becoming that legend.

I'd get behind this idea as a low ems lose scenario. 

[TSA_383]

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...
TJBartelmus writes...
Here is my take on it, which is up for debate, but the catalyst is effectively the leader of the reapers or at least part of them (he admits this by saying "I know you've thought about destroying us.") and when he is talking to Shepard he takes on the form of the child that has been haunting him. The only way to take that form is to have taken it from shepards head. So even if the theory isn't true (which I believe it is) the reapers were in shepards head. No doubt. Also what I found weird was that there was no final boss at the end of Mass Effect 3 like the end of the first 2. Why would they change now? My idea is that they haven't released the full game,and they have been working on this dlc or at least planning it for longer than they have said. A few extra scenes and more explanation wouldn't take 2 months and counting. 
[/quote][/quote]
Link to the thread? This is basically exactly how I reasoned it the first time around.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

What did Leliana say? A tear here, a little rip there, to show some skin.. I understand.
Oh wait... a Banshee doesn't wear any clothes. I wonder where else would a mutated and what it seems pregnant Asari pump its little grey mutant offspring through?

Ugh.  Now I'm going to be thinking about the Banshee reproductive track all evening.  Thanks ever so much!

Dont worry, Banshees are made from Ardat-Yakshi, and Ardat-Yakshi are sterile

Question; in ME2 morinth describes herself as "the genetic destiny of the Asari"
Why?

self-prophesied extinction?

[TSA_383]

Unschuld wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

I thought of that too and iirc it was tossed around a few times here too. I would actually very much like it and it would make sense with the LegendSave. Shep is has become a legend, we remember what Garrus said?
"If this war goes south, maybe we could freeze you for 50,000 years, Shepard. You could go from being merely famous to legendary."
Shep lives on through the time capsules becoming that legend.

I'd get behind this idea as a low ems lose scenario.

What, a "you suck so badly, you've not only resulted in the deaths of every important character, but you've also doomed the next 50000 years of civilisation" ending?
I like it.

Although if anyone can stop the reapers it's the Yahg + 50000 years...

Oh by the way Unschuld you've missed some important indoctrination theory developments:
http://social.biowar...286/10#12131985

[BatmanTurian]

Just want to say, according to the current theories. The Big Bang was the beginning of time and because of this possibility called Dark Energy (which is used in ME by the way), the universe is being expanded faster than the speed of light.

At some point in the future, time/space will be so stretched that matter itself will be ripped apart and time will stop (for anyone still measuring time at that point) because space/time will be ripped. This Theory is called the Big Rip, which most Theoretical Physicists believe will be the end of the universe. There are some proponents for the Big Crunch, where the universe expands to a certain size then contracts in on itself, but most scientists have given up on it. One reason is that if the universe contracts, then time itself will run backwards, making effect coming before cause.

Therefore, time is not infinite, especially in a universe involving the idea of Dark Energy, which ME has. It has a beginning and it has a really horrific ending. So anyone saying " given an infinite amount of time " doesn't understand that the universe will end physically and with it any sequence of events we could call time.

And even if it doesn't end physically, like Rifneo said, there is a finite amount of gas to make stars and once those stars go out, then there can be no organic life except some advanced Kardashev 4 civilization hugging red dwarfs. Once there is no organic life, then organics cannot produce synthetics inevitably, as the Starchild implies. Therefore, organics will not always exist and will not always create synthetics.

Even the Reapers (unless they bored a hole into another universe) would be torn apart in the Big Rip. Even incomprehensible monsters are made of matter and that matter will be torn apart at the atomic level in the Big Rip.

Why am I saying all of this? To prove the absolutes in Starchild's logic are wrong. Within a certain timescale, what he says may be possible. But the universe is not and never will be infinite. It has a shelf life and we realized it the moment we realized everything else in the universe is rushing away from us faster than the speed of light and that there will be a time when there will be no stars in the sky at all and everything will be close to absolute zero, the energy of the universe expended and the universe reaching absolute entropy.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 19 mai 2012 - 05:33 .

[BleedingUranium]

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice writes...
I realized I haven't told you guys my 'Doomsday Scenario' yet. I wasn't planning to, because it doesn't seem very likely. However, the 'Admiral Hackett and EDI will return' interview, which mentioned 'losing the game' changed my mind.

So here it is: the Doomsday Scenario. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUN!

The 'time capsule' will be dug up in the next cycle. Shepard will be known as the grand hero from the previous cycle, yet not even (s)he was able to defeat the Reapers.

Mass Effect is the story about the end of the human race. We went down, just like all who came before us. But in grand style, and nobody can say we didn't try.

I thought of that too and iirc it was tossed around a few times here too. I would actually very much like it and it would make sense with the LegendSave. Shep is has become a legend, we remember what Garrus said?
"If this war goes south, maybe we could freeze you for 50,000 years, Shepard. You could go from being merely famous to legendary."
Shep lives on through the time capsules becoming that legend.

I'd get behind this idea as a low ems lose scenario.

What, a "you suck so badly, you've not only resulted in the deaths of every important character, but you've also doomed the next 50000 years of civilisation" ending?
I like it.

Although if anyone can stop the reapers it's the Yahg + 50000 years...

Oh by the way Unschuld you've missed some important indoctrination theory developments:
http://social.biowar...286/10#12131985

That link doesn't work now, but I have a pretty good idea what was on the other end

[DJBare]

Can anybody make out the sound that starts about 1 second into this video and tapers off toward the end.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

DJBare wrote...

Can anybody make out the sound that starts about 1 second into this video and tapers off toward the end.

Sounds like some kind of groan or wail of pain.

EDIT: sorry thought you said end. In the beggining just sounds like a sharp hiss of wind, with an added echo effect since Shepard is unconsious.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 19 mai 2012 - 05:32 .

[Arian Dynas]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Just want to say, according to the current theories. The Big Bang was the beginning of time and because of this possibility called Dark Energy (which is used in ME by the way), the universe is being expanded faster than the speed of light.

At some point in the future, time/space will be so stretched that matter itself will be ripped apart and time will stop (for anyone still measuring time at that point) because space/time will be ripped. This Theory is called the Big Rip, which most Theoretical Physicists believe will be the end of the universe. There are some proponents for the Big Crunch, where the universe expands to a certain size then contracts in on itself, but most scientists have given up on it. One reason is that if the universe contracts, then time itself will run backwards, making effect coming before cause.

Therefore, time is not infinite, especially in a universe involving the idea of Dark Energy, which ME has. It has a beginning and it has a really horrific ending. So anyone saying " given an infinite amount of time " doesn't understand that the universe will end physically and with it any sequence of events we could call time.

And even if it doesn't end physically, like Rifneo said, there is a finite amount of gas to make stars and once those stars go out, then there can be no organic life except some advanced Kardashev 4 civilization hugging red dwarfs. Once there is no organic life, then organics cannot produce synthetics inevitably, as the Starchild implies. Therefore, organics will not always exist and will not always create synthetics and even the Reapers (unless they bored a hole into another universe) would be torn apart in the Big Rip. Even incomprehensible monsters are made of matter and that matter will be torn apart at the atomic level in the Big Rip.

Why am I saying all of this? To prove the absolutes in Starchild's logic are wrong. Within a certain timescale, what he says may be possible. But the universe is not and never will be infinite. It has a shelf life and we realized it the moment we realized everything else in the universe is rushing away from us faster than the speed of light.

I personally eschew to the ekonpyiretic universe model, the one that states there was in fact no big bang, and all matter in the universe was created by the quantum membrane of this universe and another colliding with oneanother, causing massive matter generating explosions and beginning the expansion of matter into the then (essentially) empty universe, which will then continue until matter has expanded to the point that it will be equivalent to 1 hydrogen molocule per trillions of lightyears, at which point, the universe again effectively empty will be drawn into a collision with another similarly empty 'brane.

It's actually a pretty hot theory right now, none of the troubles dealing with explaining a singularity (where physics breaks down) or with the concept that "time" (as experienced by quantum mechanics, not time as we know it which is coterminous with space) ever started.

Which also leads to a rather interesting theory that as the universe expands, time moves forward as space increases, but that one could just be pure hogwash.

[TSA_383]

BleedingUranium wrote...
That link doesn't work now, but I have a pretty good idea what was on the other end

Damn mods ruining my fun

DJBare wrote...

Can anybody make out the sound that starts about 1 second into this video and tapers off toward the end.

I do believe that's one of the whisper noises from the dream sequence. The effects ones rather than the former squadmates.

Modifié par TSA_383, 19 mai 2012 - 05:40 .

[Bill Casey]

www.youtube.com/watch

This sounds like "die shepard"...

[Sero303]

Arian Dynas wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Just want to say, according to the current theories. The Big Bang was the beginning of time and because of this possibility called Dark Energy (which is used in ME by the way), the universe is being expanded faster than the speed of light.

At some point in the future, time/space will be so stretched that matter itself will be ripped apart and time will stop (for anyone still measuring time at that point) because space/time will be ripped. This Theory is called the Big Rip, which most Theoretical Physicists believe will be the end of the universe. There are some proponents for the Big Crunch, where the universe expands to a certain size then contracts in on itself, but most scientists have given up on it. One reason is that if the universe contracts, then time itself will run backwards, making effect coming before cause.

Therefore, time is not infinite, especially in a universe involving the idea of Dark Energy, which ME has. It has a beginning and it has a really horrific ending. So anyone saying " given an infinite amount of time " doesn't understand that the universe will end physically and with it any sequence of events we could call time.

And even if it doesn't end physically, like Rifneo said, there is a finite amount of gas to make stars and once those stars go out, then there can be no organic life except some advanced Kardashev 4 civilization hugging red dwarfs. Once there is no organic life, then organics cannot produce synthetics inevitably, as the Starchild implies. Therefore, organics will not always exist and will not always create synthetics and even the Reapers (unless they bored a hole into another universe) would be torn apart in the Big Rip. Even incomprehensible monsters are made of matter and that matter will be torn apart at the atomic level in the Big Rip.

Why am I saying all of this? To prove the absolutes in Starchild's logic are wrong. Within a certain timescale, what he says may be possible. But the universe is not and never will be infinite. It has a shelf life and we realized it the moment we realized everything else in the universe is rushing away from us faster than the speed of light.

I personally eschew to the ekonpyiretic universe model, the one that states there was in fact no big bang, and all matter in the universe was created by the quantum membrane of this universe and another colliding with oneanother, causing massive matter generating explosions and beginning the expansion of matter into the then (essentially) empty universe, which will then continue until matter has expanded to the point that it will be equivalent to 1 hydrogen molocule per trillions of lightyears, at which point, the universe again effectively empty will be drawn into a collision with another similarly empty 'brane.

It's actually a pretty hot theory right now, none of the troubles dealing with explaining a singularity (where physics breaks down) or with the concept that "time" (as experienced by quantum mechanics, not time as we know it which is coterminous with space) ever started.

Which also leads to a rather interesting theory that as the universe expands, time moves forward as space increases, but that one could just be pure hogwash.

Nothing to see here folks, keep moving,...
just two guys discussing the quantum mechanics of how exactly the universe will end eons upon eons from now, much like yoru decisions in Mass Effect 3, it doesn't matter...
Move along,....

[Bill Casey]

The universe is actually made of ham...
And in 37 years, it will spoil...
It's a bit technical...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 19 mai 2012 - 05:44 .

[BatmanTurian]

Arian Dynas wrote...


I personally eschew to the ekonpyiretic universe model, the one that states there was in fact no big bang, and all matter in the universe was created by the quantum membrane of this universe and another colliding with oneanother, causing massive matter generating explosions and beginning the expansion of matter into the then (essentially) empty universe, which will then continue until matter has expanded to the point that it will be equivalent to 1 hydrogen molocule per trillions of lightyears, at which point, the universe again effectively empty will be drawn into a collision with another similarly empty 'brane.

It's actually a pretty hot theory right now, none of the troubles dealing with explaining a singularity (where physics breaks down) or with the concept that "time" (as experienced by quantum mechanics, not time as we know it which is coterminous with space) ever started.

Which also leads to a rather interesting theory that as the universe expands, time moves forward as space increases, but that one could just be pure hogwash.

Yeah, I know about the membrane theory. The collisions create Big Bangs which create new universes. The energy created in the collision is the full energy of the universe at the Big Bang of that universe and it reaches absolute entropy and Big Rip when the membranes are furthest apart again. Then of course the membranes eventually collide again and create a new universe.

Anyway, the point is that modern science believes time is finite and the survival of organics is definitely finite. I've heard the theory of time moving forward as space increases, creating infinite time and space, but I believe it's probably not true also.

[BatmanTurian]

Sero303 wrote...

Nothing to see here folks, keep moving,...
just two guys discussing the quantum mechanics of how exactly the universe will end eons upon eons from now, much like yoru decisions in Mass Effect 3, it doesn't matter...
Move along,....

I'm just giving another reason why Starchild's logic is BS. That's all. Scientifically even.

[TSA_383]

Sero303 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Just want to say, according to the current theories. The Big Bang was the beginning of time and because of this possibility called Dark Energy (which is used in ME by the way), the universe is being expanded faster than the speed of light.

At some point in the future, time/space will be so stretched that matter itself will be ripped apart and time will stop (for anyone still measuring time at that point) because space/time will be ripped. This Theory is called the Big Rip, which most Theoretical Physicists believe will be the end of the universe. There are some proponents for the Big Crunch, where the universe expands to a certain size then contracts in on itself, but most scientists have given up on it. One reason is that if the universe contracts, then time itself will run backwards, making effect coming before cause.

Therefore, time is not infinite, especially in a universe involving the idea of Dark Energy, which ME has. It has a beginning and it has a really horrific ending. So anyone saying " given an infinite amount of time " doesn't understand that the universe will end physically and with it any sequence of events we could call time.

And even if it doesn't end physically, like Rifneo said, there is a finite amount of gas to make stars and once those stars go out, then there can be no organic life except some advanced Kardashev 4 civilization hugging red dwarfs. Once there is no organic life, then organics cannot produce synthetics inevitably, as the Starchild implies. Therefore, organics will not always exist and will not always create synthetics and even the Reapers (unless they bored a hole into another universe) would be torn apart in the Big Rip. Even incomprehensible monsters are made of matter and that matter will be torn apart at the atomic level in the Big Rip.

Why am I saying all of this? To prove the absolutes in Starchild's logic are wrong. Within a certain timescale, what he says may be possible. But the universe is not and never will be infinite. It has a shelf life and we realized it the moment we realized everything else in the universe is rushing away from us faster than the speed of light.

I personally eschew to the ekonpyiretic universe model, the one that states there was in fact no big bang, and all matter in the universe was created by the quantum membrane of this universe and another colliding with oneanother, causing massive matter generating explosions and beginning the expansion of matter into the then (essentially) empty universe, which will then continue until matter has expanded to the point that it will be equivalent to 1 hydrogen molocule per trillions of lightyears, at which point, the universe again effectively empty will be drawn into a collision with another similarly empty 'brane.

It's actually a pretty hot theory right now, none of the troubles dealing with explaining a singularity (where physics breaks down) or with the concept that "time" (as experienced by quantum mechanics, not time as we know it which is coterminous with space) ever started.

Which also leads to a rather interesting theory that as the universe expands, time moves forward as space increases, but that one could just be pure hogwash.

Nothing to see here folks, keep moving,...
just two guys discussing the quantum mechanics of how exactly the universe will end eons upon eons from now, much like yoru decisions in Mass Effect 3, it doesn't matter...
Move along,....

What can I say, I'm an aeronautics student specialising in subsonic aerodynamics.
Call me back when you physics guys have sorted out the navier-stokes equations, that'd be just peachy.

Bill Casey wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

This sounds like "die shepard"...

Moreover, why does that ****ING BENCH appear in every dream sequence?

[BatmanTurian]

I'm out, just wanted to throw that out there since I've been thinking about it. Theoretical Physics, Quantum Mechanics, and Cosmology are kind of fetishes of mine

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 19 mai 2012 - 06:01 .