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[masster blaster]

IT is not dead it's just we need to start digging for new evidences and it did not comfier nor Deni IT so my best guess is IT is still in the Game.

[MissLiya]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT was true, they wouldn't have expanded on the "hallucination" scenes.

Whaaa? That makes no sense to me. Why not?

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me. It would be wasted effort - if the sequence already establishes that it is a hallucination, why expand on it? Why not spend the time on the "real, true" ending DLC?

I have an explaination - but it pisses off the guys who don't believe in IT.
My theory is two fold - 

a) People didn't like it
People didn't understand it.

For those who didn't like it - they are trying to make it better
For those who didn't understand it - as you say - they are expanding on it to make it stand out more and obvious.

Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

I always thought this assets from Shepard`s nightmares. But I`m not sure tho. 

Modifié par MissLiya, 26 juin 2012 - 01:51 .

[nullobject]

davishepard wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Guys seriously....

Have you seen the assets from the game that are marked "DREAM"



It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

You are not suppose to exam the game files to understand the story. 

Yeah, you might find the plant textures used in the dream sequences, in a file called "DREAM" no less!

[v0rt3x22]

Silhouett3 wrote...

From what I'm hearing the ending at face value doesn't make sense yet again:

Catalyst isn't influenced/"changed" by Crucible, hence the Reject ending.
For the RGB choices to work out as Catalyst says, you must be trusting a lying Reaper.
If you don't accept the Reaper way of thinking and "end this on own terms" then the Catalyst doesn't feel necessary anymore to talk with a voice similar to a child.

So the ending still sounds like manipulation to meB) Correct me if I'm missing anything

This

[OdanUrr]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Past the point. Go read what I wrote about the second movie and how it ends.
It's an open ending - similar to the one we have here.

I remember that scene, but I don't think it's leading up to ME4. If there's a ME4, it'll probably be a prequel or take place further in the future.

[Zertz]

Another question for thought and discussion: With the new endings which are much stronger literally than before (Its pretty clear the literal interpretation of the old endings was right ridiculous) then does that diminish the weirdness which prompted the original theorizing?

Everyone here should remember all the IT foreshadowing, accidental or intentional, by BioWare as has been extensively documented here and on YouTube. One of two things is at some level true:

1. BioWare accidentally included quite a bit of foreshadowing and lots of circumstantial evidence which can lead to IT; or

2. IT is true in some form.

Both need explanations.

We need to watch very carefully how BioWare discusses the new content and specifically watch to see if the ending results are discussed at places like SDCC. That may let us infer if there is a twist in the works and up the sleeve or if what you see is what you get.

I'm also super excited to see the actual files analyzed.

[nullobject]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this. 

I'll spell it out.

The game contains several dream sequences set in a forest (remember - you chase the boy?).

Those sequences use the plant textures you posted.

For some reason you think this is a big deal. Why?

[EpyonX3]

didn't read anything. my game (PC) doesn't have extended cut as an available download. Anyone on PC have EC?

[FellishBeast]

masster blaster wrote...

IT is not dead it's just we need to start digging for new evidences and it did not comfier nor Deni IT so my best guess is IT is still in the Game.

No. Please just stop. 

[v0rt3x22]

MissLiya wrote...

I always thought this assets from Shepard`s nightmares. But I`m not sure tho. 

It's from the jungle planet...he's thinking of how all the choices he's making at the end (Red, green, blue) will affect the future...with the exception that none of it is happening. 

I really think BioWare are trolling us big time here.

[Brother Takka]

Well I did think It could be true, but after watching the EC. I can't see how it can be. I know there is still the Breath part at the end, but I just think that's Bioware saying Shep lives. I feel now the breath is to give you the happy ending, that Normandy and co get back to earth to find shep sitting there waiting for them. Part of me wanted IT to be true as it was better than the end we had. But with the EC I'm happy with the ending now. It didn't leave me with WTF face. Granted I watched it on Youtube, but it's not out on Origin, so I may not get the full pictuer till I play it for my self.

[v0rt3x22]

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this. 

I'll spell it out.

The game contains several dream sequences set in a forest (remember - you chase the boy?).

Those sequences use the plant textures you posted.

For some reason you think this is a big deal. Why?

Wrong. I believe these assets come from the jungle planet at the end.
Shepard believes that the crew makes it out alive - and he's dreaming about them settling on a new world.

[TiminatorT2000]

v0rt3x22 wrote...




It really can't get more obvious of what's going on.

This was proabably used in the actual dream sequences , or Bioware originally itended IT and changed there minds later. Point is there's a perfectly reasonable explantation.

[ByronicX]

"none of its happening"

Well good thing then that they spend hours of programming for nothing....again.

[v0rt3x22]

Brother Takka wrote...

I know there is still the Breath part at the end, but I just think that's Bioware saying Shep lives. .

Yes but why would they bother showing this?
They could just leave the entire thing to your imagination.

And why would they only show it with the "Destroy" ending?

Think about it...

[Nemesis1812]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Nemesis1812 wrote...

is IT dead?

According to some yes - not me. I'm still fighting here. could really use some help 

Going home finally to download and play it!  I'll be back to help you later on.  I think I hate the endings even more now with the EC taken at face value:sick:, so even if IT was not intended it has much more intelligence and ingenuity than this.

Hang in there;)

[v0rt3x22]

TiminatorT2000 wrote...

Bioware originally intended IT.

This. I see no reason why they would change their minds. It wasn't leaked in any script - otherwise we would've been discussing it.

I still think this is the case.

BTW - if anyone could perhaps compare that foilage picture with the foilage thats seen in the jungle planet at the end - if anything fits - that'd be great.

(Maybe through YouTube)

[EpyonX3]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this. 

I'll spell it out.

The game contains several dream sequences set in a forest (remember - you chase the boy?).

Those sequences use the plant textures you posted.

For some reason you think this is a big deal. Why?

Wrong. I believe these assets come from the jungle planet at the end.
Shepard believes that the crew makes it out alive - and he's dreaming about them settling on a new world.

No they are used in the dream sequences as well.

[ByronicX]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Brother Takka wrote...

I know there is still the Breath part at the end, but I just think that's Bioware saying Shep lives. .

Yes but why would they bother showing this?
They could just leave the entire thing to your imagination.

And why would they only show it with the "Destroy" ending?

Think about it...

because that scene only makes sense in the destroy ending? 

[v0rt3x22]

EpyonX3 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

I am convinced. Of course, if the game had contained prominent dream sequences that used those assets, then maybe there would be a good explanation, but clearly you've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this. 

I'll spell it out.

The game contains several dream sequences set in a forest (remember - you chase the boy?).

Those sequences use the plant textures you posted.

For some reason you think this is a big deal. Why?

Wrong. I believe these assets come from the jungle planet at the end.
Shepard believes that the crew makes it out alive - and he's dreaming about them settling on a new world.

No they are used in the dream sequences as well.

If you can point to a vid or picture - that'd be great.

[Smeffects]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Brother Takka wrote...

I know there is still the Breath part at the end, but I just think that's Bioware saying Shep lives. .

Yes but why would they bother showing this?
They could just leave the entire thing to your imagination.

And why would they only show it with the "Destroy" ending?

Think about it...

Because when he use the other 2 ending shepard is disintegrated? It would be hard to have a desintegrated shepard in a breathing scene, wouldnt it?

Modifié par Smeffects, 26 juin 2012 - 02:00 .

[Ytook]

So does the EC actually add 10 minutes of extra content to an ending?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

I'm amazed that the sh*tstorm in the forums isn't as big as I expected.

[OdanUrr]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Brother Takka wrote...

I know there is still the Breath part at the end, but I just think that's Bioware saying Shep lives. .

Yes but why would they bother showing this?
They could just leave the entire thing to your imagination.

And why would they only show it with the "Destroy" ending?

Think about it...

Well, last time, Control disintegrated your body and Synthesis ripped it to pieces so it could "spread the goods" as it were.

[Alex Arterius]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but is it me or do Shepards eyes seem A LOT bluer in the EC... :/