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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#29701
MegaSovereign

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nullobject wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

But if there were to be 'real' endings, they would've been here, in the EC..


Wrong.

As BioWare said - EC does not change the endings and it will not debunk or confirm IT.

so the real endings - are still a possibility.


So what you're saying is.

In order to believe IT is true.

You have to believe that Mass Effect 3 doesn't have an ending, even if 10 years later they still don't confirm IT?

That's pretty stubborn.


That's fallback position number 2.

Fallback position number 1 is that there is still a "real" ending coming. Just for some reason Bioware decided to release a second "fake" ending first, rather than spending the time working on the "real" one.


So the EC is "fake" despite being the largest DLC in ME history. If it was "fake," they just wasted millions of dollars for nothing.

Also, they're not planning to do more post-ending DLC. Extended Cut is definitive, sorry.

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Simotech wrote...

I want to see Shep reunited with his LI and with his crew

Please Bioware....please! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]


[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]


Mass
Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings
to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander
Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related
to the endings.



#29702
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masster blaster wrote...

Ya and notice not once they mention Shepard was alive or found Shepard in then end of Destroy if you get the breath scene so there is still hope.


Yeah, i was like, they didnt find shepard? They clearly had emough time... they fixed the citadel...so shepard was just chilling on the ground all that time?

#29703
v0rt3x22

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Anyway I've written about it all day....I'm just going to wait what BioWare has to say about it in the future.

#29704
llbountyhunter

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MegaSovereign wrote...

nullobject wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

But if there were to be 'real' endings, they would've been here, in the EC..


Wrong.

As BioWare said - EC does not change the endings and it will not debunk or confirm IT.

so the real endings - are still a possibility.


So what you're saying is.

In order to believe IT is true.

You have to believe that Mass Effect 3 doesn't have an ending, even if 10 years later they still don't confirm IT?

That's pretty stubborn.


That's fallback position number 2.

Fallback position number 1 is that there is still a "real" ending coming. Just for some reason Bioware decided to release a second "fake" ending first, rather than spending the time working on the "real" one.


So the EC is "fake" despite being the largest DLC in ME history. If it was "fake," they just wasted millions of dollars for nothing.

Also, they're not planning to do more post-ending DLC. Extended Cut is definitive, sorry.

TullyAckland wrote...

Simotech wrote...

I want to see Shep reunited with his LI and with his crew

Please Bioware....please! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]


[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]


Mass
Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings
to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander
Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related
to the endings.



No EC is true, IT hinges on biware not changing the endings.

What hes saying is that the ending is left unclear, just like bioware said it would be.... but that maybe things would be clarified in a future game.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

No EC is true, IT hinges on biware not changing the endings.

What hes saying is that the ending is left unclear, just like bioware said it would be.... but that maybe things would be clarified in a future game.


What he said

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Um not trying to be a downer but in the EC for control Shepard sounds like a fu**** dictator and well is a Reaper but is starting to think like one.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya and notice not once they mention Shepard was alive or found Shepard in then end of Destroy if you get the breath scene so there is still hope.


Yeah, i was like, they didnt find shepard? They clearly had emough time... they fixed the citadel...so shepard was just chilling on the ground all that time?


Yeah, they probably were just cleaning up the remains of the citadel when some caretaker finally found Shepard...

"Oh look, it's Shepard! And we thought you were dead after saving us all! But instead you were just taking a nap up here while we have to do the whole clean-up! One fine spectre you are, Ms. Shepard! Now get teh hell outta here, we really have work to do! I still don't get it what the Reapers wanted with all that concrete, guess they tried to indoctrinate it or whatever..."

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MegaSovereign wrote...

nullobject wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

But if there were to be 'real' endings, they would've been here, in the EC..


Wrong.

As BioWare said - EC does not change the endings and it will not debunk or confirm IT.

so the real endings - are still a possibility.


So what you're saying is.

In order to believe IT is true.

You have to believe that Mass Effect 3 doesn't have an ending, even if 10 years later they still don't confirm IT?

That's pretty stubborn.


That's fallback position number 2.

Fallback position number 1 is that there is still a "real" ending coming. Just for some reason Bioware decided to release a second "fake" ending first, rather than spending the time working on the "real" one.


So the EC is "fake" despite being the largest DLC in ME history. If it was "fake," they just wasted millions of dollars for nothing.

Also, they're not planning to do more post-ending DLC. Extended Cut is definitive, sorry.



Don't misinterpret me describing the mental contortions of ITers, for undergoing those contortions myself.

#29709
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masster blaster wrote...

Um not trying to be a downer but in the EC for control Shepard sounds like a fu**** dictator and well is a Reaper but is starting to think like one.


Don't even get me started on synthesis.

#29710
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Guess if you noticed they keep saying ONE MORE STORY in the STARGAZER scene so that means this is NOT the last one we hear about the Shepard.

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JeosDinas wrote...

I can't wait to feast upon the metric tons of cognitive dissonance that will be congealing in this thread now.


I'd advise just observing rather than jumping in, unless you want a ban.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

No EC is true, IT hinges on biware not changing the endings.

What hes saying is that the ending is left unclear, just like bioware said it would be.... but that maybe things would be clarified in a future game.


That's some serious mental gymnastics right there.  The endings aren't unclear.  They happened exactly as shown and nothing shown supports IT at all.

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I thought it was suppose to be out today? The 26th, for pc users in europe.

#29714
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I'm about to youtube EC. Why is it out on Xbox but not on PC? I understand PS3, because of Sony.

#29715
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Unschuld wrote...

I'd advise just observing rather than jumping in, unless you want a ban.


You are free to believe whatever you wish. I am also free to find your belief inspiring in its desperation.

#29716
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I got pissed at starbinger after the choices were laid out and shot him.. so my first playthrough ended with everyone dead. God, I wasn't expecting it at all... laughed myself into tears.

#29717
llbountyhunter

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Capeo wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

No EC is true, IT hinges on biware not changing the endings.

What hes saying is that the ending is left unclear, just like bioware said it would be.... but that maybe things would be clarified in a future game.


That's some serious mental gymnastics right there.  The endings aren't unclear.  They happened exactly as shown and nothing shown supports IT at all.



Mental gymnastics? im telling you what bioware said...

#29718
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llbountyhunter wrote...

I don't think that refusal=lose means IT is false...

Since IT is a mental battle, it means you gave up and refused to fight. Destory would be the only way to keep resisting.


Anyways imstill pretty dissapointed with EC... i mean they changedmore to make sense of that crap than they wouldve needed to if they went with IT!


Pretty much this, it's inaction where Shepard has always been the one to take action.

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Look - IT or not - I agree about one thing: This is being very very badly managed by BioWare.
If IT is "the big surprise" - then I'd rather have it announced early - for what its worth.

And if its not - then there's no harm in debunking it.

#29720
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JeosDinas wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

I'd advise just observing rather than jumping in, unless you want a ban.


You are free to believe whatever you wish. I am also free to find your belief inspiring in its desperation.


I was giving you more of a friendly warning, due to the mods' recent ban-hammer happiness in this thread. Sorry though, you won't get enjoyment at my expense. You can wait for the others to get back for that, though I suspect with the ending still leaving a bit of openness to it they'll insist in the theory. I suppose that will give you what you desire.

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Sorry I wasn't reading all the posts, but:

SPILER ALERT

Has anyone tried to refuse the Catalyst's choices ?
Damn his voice got way too mature in a second xD
It was the voice of the Rannoch Reaper if I'm not mistaken.

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Unschuld wrote...

I got pissed at starbinger after the choices were laid out and shot him.. so my first playthrough ended with everyone dead. God, I wasn't expecting it at all... laughed myself into tears.


Yes, that was a nice touch. Lol they knew everyone shoots at the kid, and just wouldn't be able to help themselves!

#29723
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SirLugash wrote...

Sorry I wasn't reading all the posts, but:

SPILER ALERT

Has anyone tried to refuse the Catalyst's choices ?
Damn his voice got way too mature in a second xD
It was the voice of the Rannoch Reaper if I'm not mistaken.


Yes. We've been through that.

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Modifié par nightcobra8928, 26 juin 2012 - 04:40 .


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Ok sorry to bring it up again then.