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[nullobject]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Yes, it's an alternative hypothesis (although you snipped most of it). You are supposed to try and explain why it doesn't fit the facts as well as your one.

[v0rt3x22]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

It just feels like you're going to be waiting for a 'real ending' that just isn't coming.

...and when it does - I'm starting to belief that I'll be the only one on this forum laughing 

No but in all seriousness - I do understand your points - hell, I might even say they're valid - but I remain patient.
There's more on the way anyway - IT or not.

[OdanUrr]

byne wrote...

Shepards never die. They're just Missing in Action.

Nice Halo reference.

[llbountyhunter]

Saying EC debunked IT is like saying EC had solid proof IT was planned from the beggining.


Com on guys, did you hear? IT is true! The breath scene was still in! Lets go to other thread and troll them too!!!

[v0rt3x22]

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Do you seriously still believe IT was intended and that Bioware will expand upon it? Or are you just playing the devil's advocate?<_<

No I still believe in "IT" (no pun intended )

[smokingotter1]

SubAstris wrote...

Can't wait for the new EC that is going to be prove that IT is real once and for all. Did you retards really think that EC was actually real? Give it until September, there will be a new, real EC that shows IT to be correct

Wrong, that's a red herring DLC. The "real real (not for play play) Extended Cut"  will be revealed January 2013. 800 MS Points or 9.99 on Origin, comes with coupons for Ovaltine.

[MegaSovereign]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Do you seriously still believe IT was intended and that Bioware will expand upon it? Or are you just playing the devil's advocate?<_<

No I still believe in "IT" (no pun intended )

How unfortunate. I guess you'll never actually get closure on Shepard's story.

[masster blaster]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Saying EC debunked IT is like saying EC had solid proof IT was planned from the beggining.


Com on guys, did you hear? IT is true! The breath scene was still in! Lets go to other thread and troll them too!!!

No if we do that wer're no better than them so let them but Reameber the Stargazer changed and it said again okay ONE MORE STORY so ya not the lst we heard of Shepard yet.

[v0rt3x22]

nullobject wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Yes, it's an alternative hypothesis (although you snipped most of it). You are supposed to try and explain why it doesn't fit the facts as well as your one.

Sorry I tend to snip - so my posts remain small and easy to read - based on what I'm commeting on.

I don't think we have to go into all the facts of IT - and how it "fits". There's a 2h vid on that - but yes - your argument fits just as well - it's just that I have different beliefs.

(Do I seem tired talking about "IT"? )

[llbountyhunter]

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Do you seriously still believe IT was intended and that Bioware will expand upon it? Or are you just playing the devil's advocate?<_<

No I still believe in "IT" (no pun intended )

How unfortunate. I guess you'll never actually get closure on Shepard's story.

IT provides more closer than the literal endings... epecially destroy.

[byne]

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

nullobject wrote...

IT is not, and never was, true. 

That's as much as a theory as IT is.

Do you seriously still believe IT was intended and that Bioware will expand upon it? Or are you just playing the devil's advocate?<_<

No I still believe in "IT" (no pun intended )

How unfortunate. I guess you'll never actually get closure on Shepard's story.

I'd just like to point out I didnt exactly get closure on Shep's story in the literal destroy ending either.

[v0rt3x22]

MegaSovereign wrote...

How unfortunate. I guess you'll never actually get closure on Shepard's story.

Did you? 

[Lokanaiya]

Trolls, if you want to talk about how IT has been "debunked", I think there's a thread out there that's already discussing that. But this thread is for people who support IT, and since you obviously don't and aren't going to talk reasonably about it, please leave.

[DocJill]

Just watched all the endings on YouTube, and I have to say at initial evaluation, IT does not conflict with the destroy or synthesis endings. Maybe conflicts with the control and refusal endings, but maybe not.

I'll think about it more today, and join the crap ton of discussion that will be going on this evening.

[Candidate 88766]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

It just feels like you're going to be waiting for a 'real ending' that just isn't coming.

...and when it does - I'm starting to belief that I'll be the only one on this forum laughing 

No but in all seriousness - I do understand your points - hell, I might even say they're valid - but I remain patient.
There's more on the way anyway - IT or not.

Everything they've said has made it clear that the EC is all they're going to do with the endings.

At this point if they did have something that would confirm the IT in the works there'd be no point hiding it. The 'surprise' has been ruined now, and the fan and media backlash has been massive. if they had something they would at the very least had said so by now.

Believing the IT is true is still perfectly valid, but the belief should be tempered by the realisation that, if you believe the IT, you will never see Shepard beat the Reapers for real - it will forever be left implied.

[v0rt3x22]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Trolls, if you want to talk about how IT has been "debunked", I think there's a thread out there that's already discussing that. But this thread is for people who support IT, and since you obviously don't and aren't going to talk reasonably about it, please leave.

 He does have a point.

[SubAstris]

smokingotter1 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Can't wait for the new EC that is going to be prove that IT is real once and for all. Did you retards really think that EC was actually real? Give it until September, there will be a new, real EC that shows IT to be correct

Wrong, that's a red herring DLC. The "real real (not for play play) Extended Cut"  will be revealed January 2013. 800 MS Points or 9.99 on Origin, comes with coupons for Ovaltine.

F*** EA's business model!

[masster blaster]

Somebody has to ask a Bioware employ on Twitter that it's a sham that you all left the Breathing Scene in Destroy ow well I guess IT is falls that should get them to reply back towards is IT still in the fight or no it's not.

[N-Seven]

SubAstris wrote...

Can't wait for the new EC that is going to be prove that IT is real once and for all. Did you retards really think that EC was actually real? Give it until September, there will be a new, real EC that shows IT to be correct

Honestly, I had to look at some of your other posts to determine whether you were being sarcastic or not.  Very convincing role sir!

[SubAstris]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Trolls, if you want to talk about how IT has been "debunked", I think there's a thread out there that's already discussing that. But this thread is for people who support IT, and since you obviously don't and aren't going to talk reasonably about it, please leave.

For all intents and purposes, it has been "debunked". A face-value interpretation of the ending is much more consistent with the endings than IT, and the EC just strengthens that

[v0rt3x22]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

It just feels like you're going to be waiting for a 'real ending' that just isn't coming.

...and when it does - I'm starting to belief that I'll be the only one on this forum laughing 

No but in all seriousness - I do understand your points - hell, I might even say they're valid - but I remain patient.
There's more on the way anyway - IT or not.

Everything they've said has made it clear that the EC is all they're going to do with the endings.

At this point if they did have something that would confirm the IT in the works there'd be no point hiding it. The 'surprise' has been ruined now, and the fan and media backlash has been massive. if they had something they would at the very least had said so by now.

Believing the IT is true is still perfectly valid, but the belief should be tempered by the realisation that, if you believe the IT, you will never see Shepard beat the Reapers for real - it will forever be left implied.

Look - I'm 100% with you on this. If IT was the "big suprise" - then I really don't see a point of waiting to announce it any longer - seeing how split the community is over this (a very unfortunate thing btw - because I think it's not only a split between opinions - but a sort of "personal" split as well - that the both sides seem to hate eachother now....it never used to be like this).

But I'm still optimistic about the scene in which shepard lives - and (well come to think about it) - almost all the other interpretations that IT provides - because they weren't debunked.

[llbountyhunter]

SubAstris wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Trolls, if you want to talk about how IT has been "debunked", I think there's a thread out there that's already discussing that. But this thread is for people who support IT, and since you obviously don't and aren't going to talk reasonably about it, please leave.

For all intents and purposes, it has been "debunked". A face-value interpretation of the ending is much more consistent with the endings than IT, and the EC just strengthens that

You dont know what IT is do you? 

[Maecen]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet. But, WTH was that twitch Shepard did when Anderson radioed him after he flew out of the beam at the Citadel? There was a weird noise behind it too. I just finished playing and I can't get that out of my head.

[Lokanaiya]

@Subastris
So why are you still here?

[kleindropper]

Well after watching the "Control" ending I'm more convinced of IT than ever. Shepard is "using" the power of the Reapers to exert control over the galaxy? No doubt Shepard will eventually agree with the Reapers that all advanced organics are a threat and destroy them.