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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Does anyone have a youtube link to the new grandpa scene?

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SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?



Truly?
 
Not at this point. 

I believe it is still a possibility, but far less likely now. 

“If”they’re going to do it, they’re going to release a Firebase Earth type multiplayer map, then have additional gameplay after the events on the citadel showing a battle with Harbinger, etc. 

Then Bioware will say “gotcha”. The IT’ers will rejoice and literalists with groan and gripe and either way Bioware will have alienated a segment of their fans. 

But I admit, that’s a big “IF” at this point. 

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SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Honestly, I have no idea.  I doubt it though, they rather have speculation over fact.

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Just like every single IT believers can still keep thinking that IT theory is still true when EC straight out ended the series with their official Epilogue.
I can still believe that the whole ME 1 ~ 3 are just a story made up by Conrad Verner whom is writing a book after meeting with the first Shepard.

And that I believe that Bioware has an DLC titled NOVEL OF CONRAD V , that showed how everything is just a story made by Conrad Verner in the future. Who knows maybe 10 years down the line, even how small the possibilities it is, its still an possibility.

Modifié par Novate, 26 juin 2012 - 06:44 .


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senshi420 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Regardless of IT or not, I accidentally shot the kid. Sigh, on my way back. IT is possible, but I like a lot of what EC provided. Now off to destroy, and see every ending.

i literally just did the same thing...i couldn't help it...so be it indeed:devil:


Seriously, I just felt like it and then I'm like, what???  Lol.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Does anybody think there will be a sequal to incepton??

I dont. Its meant to be that way. 


5th time i answer this..... how many more before literalists get it? 


The ending of Inception is different. If IT proved to be true, it would alter the plot and focus of ME significantly, having far more reach than if the end of the movie is fake or not. It doesn't alter the themes for example

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SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Until I find out what that damn twitch Shepard did was, I'm not gonna give up hope at the moment.

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Heh,not even Conrad would write such crap.

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Maecen wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Until I find out what that damn twitch Shepard did was, I'm not gonna give up hope at the moment.


<3

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Anyway, how's the collateral damage from EC?

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They just contradicted themselves. These endings removed all possibility of speculation and killed their statement about how they wanted us to do so. It was a cover and I am very disappointed.

I will really miss this theory. Still better than the "real ending".

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According to BioWare the endings are quite different if you're more Renegade / Paragon - and also low or high EMS. Has someone checked this out?

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UrgentArchengel wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Honestly, I have no idea.  I doubt it though, they rather have speculation over fact.


I doubt it a swell...at this point, the EC should have given some clues towards IT to be revealed, but it seems only to make the literal interpretation stronger...

though from what I have heard so far control = dictatorship and synthesis=creepy brave new borg-world...I must look that up at one point in youtube to see if my interpretation of green and blue as the worst is still valid and possible (I sure hope so!)

Therefore, I really don't think we will see Shepard ever waking up again to give the Reapers what they deserve. Bioware had made a choice, and it obviously wasn't that good. Now I hope and pray that the Dragon Age Team has no intention of going into the same direction...

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Novate wrote...

Just like every single IT believers can still keep thinking that IT theory is still true when EC straight out ended the series with their official Epilogue.
I can still believe that the whole ME 1 ~ 3 are just a story made up by Conrad Verner whom is writing a book after meeting with the first Shepard.


And you can belive shepars is immune to indoctrination, survived a explosion stronger than the wake of a supernovae, that reapers are actually the nice guys, that harbinger just lost interest in shepard, shepard was overlooked during the repairs and takes a breath several years after the defeat of the reapers.

EC: taken literaly

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v0rt3x22 wrote...

According to BioWare the endings are quite different if you're more Renegade / Paragon - and also low or high EMS. Has someone checked this out?


I would like to know as well

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SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Does anybody think there will be a sequal to incepton??

I dont. Its meant to be that way. 


5th time i answer this..... how many more before literalists get it? 


The ending of Inception is different. If IT proved to be true, it would alter the plot and focus of ME significantly, having far more reach than if the end of the movie is fake or not. It doesn't alter the themes for example


No it wouldnt... ive already explained this....

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UrgentArchengel wrote...

senshi420 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Regardless of IT or not, I accidentally shot the kid. Sigh, on my way back. IT is possible, but I like a lot of what EC provided. Now off to destroy, and see every ending.

i literally just did the same thing...i couldn't help it...so be it indeed:devil:


Seriously, I just felt like it and then I'm like, what???  Lol.


well i hope my first legend save registers it then, as that was the end of my first playthrough, time to go do destroy now :D 

on a side note, some things i noticed:
just before tim shoots himself, theres a reaper growl. :D
and when i asked starbinger to explain destroy, he said my crucible looks pretty good and i shouldnt lose anything more then whats already been lost.
i was like...um ok....

then i shot the little bastard.

Modifié par senshi420, 26 juin 2012 - 06:49 .


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v0rt3x22 wrote...

Maecen wrote...

I'm going to post this again since I didn't get a reply. Sorry if I seem pushy, just want to share.

"I don't know if this has been discussed yet. But, WTH was that twitch Shepard did when Anderson radioed him after he flew out of the beam at the Citadel? There was a weird noise behind it too. I just finished playing and I can't get that out of my head."


Is there a video of that?


Here's a video, 
  It's kinda dark for me, but at 6:45, when Shepard rolls out of the beam, Anderson calls out to him, Shepard does this weird jerk with a god awful noise.

Modifié par Maecen, 26 juin 2012 - 06:52 .


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I saw all the endings, so that was all 1.9GB? What? I... really?

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Novate wrote...

Just like every single IT believers can still keep thinking that IT theory is still true when EC straight out ended the series with their official Epilogue.
I can still believe that the whole ME 1 ~ 3 are just a story made up by Conrad Verner whom is writing a book after meeting with the first Shepard.


And you can belive shepars is immune to indoctrination, survived a explosion stronger than the wake of a supernovae, that reapers are actually the nice guys, that harbinger just lost interest in shepard, shepard was overlooked during the repairs and takes a breath several years after the defeat of the reapers.

EC: taken literaly


Nice couple of strawmen...

1) No one is saying that
2) Common movie trope to have main villain "survive" a seemingly fatal explosion (I use the term "survive" loosely since we don't know Shepard's state at the end)
3) Rubbish
4) Rubbish again
5) What?

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The only indoctrination in indoctrination theory was that gamers got indoctrinated by it and thought it was Bioware's original intention. It wasn't and EC proves it. Time to deal with the fact, that Bioware didn't deliver satisfying ending to the trilogy.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Does anybody think there will be a sequal to incepton??

I dont. Its meant to be that way. 


5th time i answer this..... how many more before literalists get it? 


The ending of Inception is different. If IT proved to be true, it would alter the plot and focus of ME significantly, having far more reach than if the end of the movie is fake or not. It doesn't alter the themes for example


No it wouldnt... ive already explained this....


If you don't think IT would fundamentally change one's perception of the whole ME series,  I don't think you understand IT

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SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Novate wrote...

Just like every single IT believers can still keep thinking that IT theory is still true when EC straight out ended the series with their official Epilogue.
I can still believe that the whole ME 1 ~ 3 are just a story made up by Conrad Verner whom is writing a book after meeting with the first Shepard.


And you can belive shepars is immune to indoctrination, survived a explosion stronger than the wake of a supernovae, that reapers are actually the nice guys, that harbinger just lost interest in shepard, shepard was overlooked during the repairs and takes a breath several years after the defeat of the reapers.

EC: taken literaly


Nice couple of strawmen...

1) No one is saying that
2) Common movie trope to have main villain "survive" a seemingly fatal explosion (I use the term "survive" loosely since we don't know Shepard's state at the end)
3) Rubbish
4) Rubbish again
5) What?



I know, rubbish, right? but that what EC says....

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SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?


Does anybody think there will be a sequal to incepton??

I dont. Its meant to be that way. 


5th time i answer this..... how many more before literalists get it? 


The ending of Inception is different. If IT proved to be true, it would alter the plot and focus of ME significantly, having far more reach than if the end of the movie is fake or not. It doesn't alter the themes for example


No it wouldnt... ive already explained this....


If you don't think IT would fundamentally change one's perception of the whole ME series,  I don't think you understand IT


IT enforces the entire ME series... taken literally its a slap in the face of the ME lore.

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Michael Gamble teases on twitter "Would now be a good time to talk about how we're doing more DLC in the future? :P"