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[alberto4395]

MegaSovereign wrote...

alberto4395 wrote...

They just contradicted themselves. These endings removed all possibility of speculation and killed their statement about how they wanted us to do so. It was a cover and I am very disappointed.

I will really miss this theory. Still better than the "real ending".

You wanted more speculation?

The EC was suppose to provide clarity and closure. It did that. I wouldn't have wanted a vague ending....Hell that's part of why the original endings were so hated.

No you misunderstood. I am disappointed that even that was a lie.

[v0rt3x22]

llbountyhunter wrote...

I dont think you understood my words.... did anyone else get that from what I said?

I don't really understand either of you 

[llbountyhunter]

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Does any ITer truly believe there will be another DLC which shows conclusively that IT is correct?[/quote]

Does anybody think there will be a sequal to incepton??

I dont. Its meant to be that way. 


5th time i answer this..... how many more before literalists get it? 

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The ending of Inception is different. If IT proved to be true, it would alter the plot and focus of ME significantly, having far more reach than if the end of the movie is fake or not. It doesn't alter the themes for example

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No it wouldnt... ive already explained this....

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If you don't think IT would fundamentally change one's perception of the whole ME series,  I don't think you understand IT

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IT enforces the entire ME series... taken literally its a slap in the face of the ME lore.

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Good that you are accepting my point, IT and literal put a completely spin on the series.

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So your saying IT uses existing lore, while the literal ending goes against it?

Cause that what IT does... 

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No, your original assertion was that IT and face-value interpretations are similar in their focuses, yet you accept that they are different at the end. Your words not mine. As regards to this point, whether the lore is closer to IT or face value is not the point

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I dont think you understood my words.... did anyone else get that from what I said?

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Well then make sure you make your points clearer. I know you have a lot of trouble with spelling, but it shouldn't be too hard

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I would if anyone else got confused by what I said... but if your the only one.. .then perhaps my spelling isnt the issue:P

[monrapias]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Has anyone else noticed the "grasp for air" sound effect and the ambient noise in the destroy ending?
those are new aren't they?

No, those are not new.  the grasp for air was there in the old destroy ending as well.

[SubAstris]

llbountyhunter wrote...

I would if anyone else got confused by what I said... but if your the only one.. .then perhaps my spelling isnt the issue:P

To be honest, I don't think anyone else is following. But if you will just explain what you mean: do you think that, if IT was truly BW's original plan, an interpretation of the ending using IT requires a different take at the plot and the focus of the ME series than if you take the ending literally?

[v0rt3x22]

monrapias wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Has anyone else noticed the "grasp for air" sound effect and the ambient noise in the destroy ending?
those are new aren't they?

No, those are not new.  the grasp for air was there in the old destroy ending as well.

A okay. but the ambient is new.

[Tirian Thorn]

I’ll say this again if anyone missed it and others have made similar statements.

“IF” IT is going to somehow be true, I think it will go something like this:

New DLC is announced with Firebase Volcano (Earth) and Firebase Citadel

The weekly event will revolve around Earth.

They will announce some new gameplay within ME3 then when people realize the new gameplay is an extended ending sequence – Indoctrination – Bioware will say “gotcha.”

The IT crowd will rejoice and the literalists will now be pissed off and gripe and moan and Bioware will have further annoyed their fans.


I think the best way to really have an indoctrination twist would have been right after the Stargazer scene.
How cool would it have been after the Stargazer scene to be at a black screen where is suddenly starts alternating between the flashing renegade or paragon choices. Just keep hitting either one or both and you’ll find out that Shepard was indoctrinated.

I don’t see how Bioware could pull off a twist at this point and have the respect of the fans. I think either way they’ve annoyed too many people.

I would honestly like a statement from someone at Bioware that says something like “while we respect and appreciate the devotion some fans have had to the Indoctrination Theory, we feel we need to point out that this was considered as an option but ultimately dropped. The endings are simply the endings and Shepard was not indoctrinated. It is a remarkable piece of fanfaction but it is simply that.”
I’d be ok with something like that – but I’d like them to just say it.

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 26 juin 2012 - 07:17 .

[L0NEWOLF25]

I noticed that the squad getting of the Normandy actually helps the Indoctrination theory. Since shepard knows they were able to get onto the normandy safly then it would make since for him to think that he saved them and made the right decision with whatever he dicided to choose. Don't know if it's been brought up since I can't find anything in the sea of arguements.

[v0rt3x22]

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...

I noticed that the squad getting of the Normandy actually helps the Indoctrination theory. Since shepard knows they were able to get onto the normandy safly then it would make since for him to think that he saved them and made the right decision with whatever he dicided to choose. Don't know if it's been brought up since I can't find anything in the sea of arguements.

yea that's true. I'm really wondering what the guy who made the IT documentary is thinking about this.

He's probably still going through the EC material frame by frame 

[SubAstris]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

I’ll say this again if anyone missed it and others have made similar statements.

“IF” IT is going to somehow be true, I think it will go something like this:

New DLC is announced with Firebase Volcano (Earth) and Firebase Citadel

The weekly event will revolve around Earth.

They will announce some new gameplay within ME3 then when people realize the new gameplay is an extended ending sequence – Indoctrination – Bioware will say “gotcha.”

The IT crowd will rejoice and the literalists will now be pissed off and gripe and moan and Bioware will have further annoyed their fans.


I think the best way to really have an indoctrination twist would have been right after the Stargazer scene.
How cool would it have been after the Stargazer scene to be at a black screen where is suddenly starts alternating between the flashing renegade or paragon choices. Just keep hitting either one or both and you’ll find out that Shepard was indoctrinated.

I don’t see how Bioware could pull off a twist at this point and have the respect of the fans. I think either way they’ve annoyed too many people.

I would honestly like a statement from someone at Bioware that says something like “while we respect and appreciate the devotion some fans have had to the Indoctrination Theory, we feel we need to point out that this was considered as an option but ultimately dropped. The endings are simply the endings and Shepard was not indoctrinated. It is a remarkable piece of fanfaction but it is simply that.”
I’d be ok with something like that – but I’d like them to just say it.

You do realise the chances of this happening are nigh on 0

[delldo]

My God, I have went and spoiled myself while doing drill duty... From what I have read here, my opinion on the indoctrination of Shepard still stands as an absolute. I have no doubts that Bioware plans for future content post the ending of the game, most likely in an old school expansion style. Stay strong folks, I can't wait to get home and refuse the ending for myself, I want to shoot that reaper right in the nads now that I can!

[v0rt3x22]

 

Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut's Extended Cut DLC

 

[llbountyhunter]

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

I would if anyone else got confused by what I said... but if your the only one.. .then perhaps my spelling isnt the issue:P

To be honest, I don't think anyone else is following. But if you will just explain what you mean: do you think that, if IT was truly BW's original plan, an interpretation of the ending using IT requires a different take at the plot and the focus of the ME series than if you take the ending literally?

Yeah i think its different from the literal interpertaion, but more true to the me lore.

[SubAstris]

magnetite wrote...

Catalyst rejection scene

Cool, doesn't show IT though?

[UrgentArchengel]

Ugh, nothing after the breath scene...very, very disappointing. EC had good stuff, but this is kinda of meh.

[v0rt3x22]

delldo wrote...

My God, I have went and spoiled myself while doing drill duty... From what I have read here, my opinion on the indoctrination of Shepard still stands as an absolute. I have no doubts that Bioware plans for future content post the ending of the game, most likely in an old school expansion style. Stay strong folks, I can't wait to get home and refuse the ending for myself, I want to shoot that reaper right in the nads now that I can!

I've been holding the line all day. Could use some backup 

[smokingotter1]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

L0NEWOLF25 wrote...

I noticed that the squad getting of the Normandy actually helps the Indoctrination theory. Since shepard knows they were able to get onto the normandy safly then it would make since for him to think that he saved them and made the right decision with whatever he dicided to choose. Don't know if it's been brought up since I can't find anything in the sea of arguements.

yea that's true. I'm really wondering what the guy who made the IT documentary is thinking about this.

He's probably still going through the EC material frame by frame 

I know ACAVYOS who made Shepard's Indoctrination is calling it quits (from comments): 

"Apparently Bioware hadn't intended the Indoctrination Theory all
along. Although the IT with its many arguments makes perfectly sense
(also within the lore), Bioware tells us that it is all merely
coincidence... they want us to take the endings at face value. "

[SubAstris]

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

I would if anyone else got confused by what I said... but if your the only one.. .then perhaps my spelling isnt the issue:P

To be honest, I don't think anyone else is following. But if you will just explain what you mean: do you think that, if IT was truly BW's original plan, an interpretation of the ending using IT requires a different take at the plot and the focus of the ME series than if you take the ending literally?

Yeah i think its different from the literal interpertaion, but more true to the me lore.

Good, that's the point I was trying to make, it changes and can't be compared to an Inception ending.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

It's still not available on Origin.
*pouts*

[SubAstris]

magnetite wrote...

No, but it may prove the child is Harbinger or some kind of Reaper.That part where he says you'll die in the destroy ending since you have synthetics in you is still there. Therefore it's a lie.

We know it contains the collective intelligence of the Reapers, that is what it is. It's not a lie because, as I have said multiple times, the Catalyst never never says that Shepard will definitely die. End of

[Maecen]

at 6:45. Does anyone know why Shepard would jerk like that when Anderson calls out for him. Am I the only one that thinks that sound is unusual.

[llbountyhunter]

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

I would if anyone else got confused by what I said... but if your the only one.. .then perhaps my spelling isnt the issue:P

To be honest, I don't think anyone else is following. But if you will just explain what you mean: do you think that, if IT was truly BW's original plan, an interpretation of the ending using IT requires a different take at the plot and the focus of the ME series than if you take the ending literally?

Yeah i think its different from the literal interpertaion, but more true to the me lore.

Good, that's the point I was trying to make, it changes and can't be compared to an Inception ending.

But the technique used can. 

[Tirian Thorn]

SubAstris wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

I’ll say this again if anyone missed it and others have made similar statements.

“IF” IT is going to somehow be true, I think it will go something like this:

New DLC is announced with Firebase Volcano (Earth) and Firebase Citadel

The weekly event will revolve around Earth.

They will announce some new gameplay within ME3 then when people realize the new gameplay is an extended ending sequence – Indoctrination – Bioware will say “gotcha.”

The IT crowd will rejoice and the literalists will now be pissed off and gripe and moan and Bioware will have further annoyed their fans.


I think the best way to really have an indoctrination twist would have been right after the Stargazer scene.
How cool would it have been after the Stargazer scene to be at a black screen where is suddenly starts alternating between the flashing renegade or paragon choices. Just keep hitting either one or both and you’ll find out that Shepard was indoctrinated.

I don’t see how Bioware could pull off a twist at this point and have the respect of the fans. I think either way they’ve annoyed too many people.

I would honestly like a statement from someone at Bioware that says something like “while we respect and appreciate the devotion some fans have had to the Indoctrination Theory, we feel we need to point out that this was considered as an option but ultimately dropped. The endings are simply the endings and Shepard was not indoctrinated. It is a remarkable piece of fanfaction but it is simply that.”
I’d be ok with something like that – but I’d like them to just say it.

You do realise the chances of this happening are nigh on 0

I said as much before.

It's unlikely a new ending DLC will be released and I don't think Bioware is going to say if the Indoctrination Theory is true or false.    The latter kinda makes me more upset  than the former, honestly.