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[Turbo_J]

plfranke wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

snip.

That is actually a very insightful way of looking at it. I may actually sleep better tonight. 

I've been telling myself the same thing.

Glad to see someone agrees.

Yeah I have no doubt that IT is true. The ec is clearly not the best Bioware could come up with, with supposedly the entire team working tirelessly for 3 months. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Mike Gamble working on it for like 1 month considering he was constantly on twitter complaining about how late he was at the office.  Have no fear ITers Bioware has a few tricks up their sleeves. For some reason though I keep getting images of the Recruit the warlord mission in me2 but replacing that lady with ea and okeer with bioware. "I'm calling blank slate on this ending project!" "Ea is that weak willed? They'll kill our trilogy with a damned valve."

I loled really loud. Not good at 4:30 am.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

All just... a big...puzzle it's... it doesn't spell it out for you but.... there's something there.

[Ytook]

Has the EC come out on PC yet? (ie have people been able to dig into it yet)

[v0rt3x22]

Ytook wrote...

Has the EC come out on PC yet? (ie have people been able to dig into it yet)

Yes they found hints on a DLC.

[plfranke]

Turbo_J wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

snip.

That is actually a very insightful way of looking at it. I may actually sleep better tonight. 

I've been telling myself the same thing.

Glad to see someone agrees.

Yeah I have no doubt that IT is true. The ec is clearly not the best Bioware could come up with, with supposedly the entire team working tirelessly for 3 months. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Mike Gamble working on it for like 1 month considering he was constantly on twitter complaining about how late he was at the office.  Have no fear ITers Bioware has a few tricks up their sleeves. For some reason though I keep getting images of the Recruit the warlord mission in me2 but replacing that lady with ea and okeer with bioware. "I'm calling blank slate on this ending project!" "Ea is that weak willed? They'll kill our trilogy with a damned valve."

I loled really loud. Not good at 4:30 am.

hahaha I was hoping someone would like that

[Andromidius]

HellishFiend wrote...

monrapias wrote...


origin finally put up the dlc now, I did watch it on youtube, but now I can finally have it for myself.

anyway, I still feel that destroy is the best ending.

And I noticed that they edit the citadel and the mass relays, they don't blow up anymore in the same manner as they used to.

Yeah, they changed an awful lot considering they supposedly werent going to change anything...

Indeed.  They changed a lot of important details, almost as if covering their arses from all the negative comments about starvation and Joker running away.  And then completely ignored that they still butchered the themes of the trilogy and forgot which character was which when writing the script.

[Jadebaby]

a couple of weird things I noticed, When Shepard wakes up on the citadel, there's a strange sound.
Still doesn't clarify how Anderson got to the control panel first, let alone up the beam first. Hackett doesn't mention Anderson going into the Citadel, just Shepard.

If you reject the Catalyst, his voice goes like Harbinger.

All they had to do was show Shepard being reunited with her squad and this would all be over.

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

snip.

That is actually a very insightful way of looking at it. I may actually sleep better tonight. 

I've been telling myself the same thing.

Glad to see someone agrees.

Yeah I have no doubt that IT is true. The ec is clearly not the best Bioware could come up with, with supposedly the entire team working tirelessly for 3 months. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Mike Gamble working on it for like 1 month considering he was constantly on twitter complaining about how late he was at the office.  Have no fear ITers Bioware has a few tricks up their sleeves. For some reason though I keep getting images of the Recruit the warlord mission in me2 but replacing that lady with ea and okeer with bioware. "I'm calling blank slate on this ending project!" "Ea is that weak willed? They'll kill our trilogy with a damned valve."

I loled really loud. Not good at 4:30 am.

hahaha I was hoping someone would like that

I did too.

[BansheeOwnage]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

a couple of weird things I noticed, When Shepard wakes up on the citadel, there's a strange sound.
Still doesn't clarify how Anderson got to the control panel first, let alone up the beam first. Hackett doesn't mention Anderson going into the Citadel, just Shepard.

If you reject the Catalyst, his voice goes like Harbinger.

All they had to do was show Shepard being reunited with her squad and this would all be over.

This.

[plfranke]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Also for those asking why Bioware would use resources to reinforce false endings... If Bioware's plan is to come up with the true ending at the end or even in the middle of a long chain of dlc it would make very little sense for them to alienate one side or the other of IT. A lot of IT believers would not buy dlc if they knew the ending should be taken literally. And a hell of a lot of literalists would not buy dlc if they knew the ending was IT. However, if Bioware could get both literalists and IT believers to buy dlc and then come up with a dlc where perhaps indoctrination could just be an option rather than something you're forced into (and I have some ideas on how they could pull that off) everyone would be satisfied and everyone would be buying dlc.

I've considered this, but playing "moderate" can have the opposite effect by satisfying almost no one. Right now, there seems to be a large push against IT- on these forums, on Youtube comments, on e-news, etc.- which suggests a large amount of alienation anyway.

My point is this though, they have still neither confirmed or denied it while still managing to please a considerable amount of people at least to a point of holding them over. If they were to introduce an "option" to be indoctrinated later they would have a lot more success than if they had forced you to be indoctrinated now. They certainly wouldn't have made any money off of it, or at least not as much as they could in the long run.

[Unschuld]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Also for those asking why Bioware would use resources to reinforce false endings... If Bioware's plan is to come up with the true ending at the end or even in the middle of a long chain of dlc it would make very little sense for them to alienate one side or the other of IT. A lot of IT believers would not buy dlc if they knew the ending should be taken literally. And a hell of a lot of literalists would not buy dlc if they knew the ending was IT. However, if Bioware could get both literalists and IT believers to buy dlc and then come up with a dlc where perhaps indoctrination could just be an option rather than something you're forced into (and I have some ideas on how they could pull that off) everyone would be satisfied and everyone would be buying dlc.

That is actually a very insightful way of looking at it. I may actually sleep better tonight. 

I've been telling myself the same thing.

Glad to see someone agrees.

Well unless Bioware is telling the fanbase bald-faced lies about either  

a.) There will be no post-ME3 sequels
or
b.) The EC is the ONLY ending related DLC

I don't see any possibility at all for another "true ending" DLC or indoc segway to ME4. Personally I'm glad that they gave additional closure/context and left the ending open enough for us to be able to "headcanon" what happens after the "new" breath scene at the end of destroy. It's not perfect, but it's something.

About the Normandy flying right in front of Harby and not getting shot though.... great character dialogue but *cough* no comment.

Modifié par Unschuld, 27 juin 2012 - 08:39 .

[byne]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

a couple of weird things I noticed, When Shepard wakes up on the citadel, there's a strange sound.
Still doesn't clarify how Anderson got to the control panel first, let alone up the beam first. Hackett doesn't mention Anderson going into the Citadel, just Shepard.

Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

Modifié par byne, 27 juin 2012 - 08:39 .

[Ytook]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Ytook wrote...

Has the EC come out on PC yet? (ie have people been able to dig into it yet)

Yes they found hints on a DLC.

Oh? (also does all the content really add up to 1.9? The whole thing seems a bit anaemic to me, I am yet to play it though)

[Unschuld]

byne wrote...
Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

Wait... why was this a silly argument? I find the possibility of it being an internal defib/pacemaker quite logical, actually.

[v0rt3x22]

Unschuld wrote...

byne wrote...
Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

Wait... why was this a silly argument? I find the possibility of it being an internal defib/pacemaker quite logical, actually.

Yes but highly illogical to introduce it into the game out of nowhere.
It is highly unlikely for things like that to be just thrown into the game and having the players make that connection right off the bat - without even having confirmed that Shepard HAS a defib.

[Andromidius]

Unschuld wrote...
Well unless Bioware is telling the fanbase bald-faced lies about either  

Honestly, what's another lie to Bioware?  They've told so many its impossible to keep count anymore.

From a literalist standpoint, at least.

[plfranke]

The main reason I think this is not yet the final word on the ending is just how fundamentally flawed getting a good ending is. Whatever ending you think is best synthesis control destroy whatever. You can get it with ease, whereas in mass effect 2 it took max effort and good decisions to make it out with everyone alive. That just makes no sense at all.

[BansheeOwnage]

Unschuld wrote...

byne wrote...
Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

Wait... why was this a silly argument? I find the possibility of it being an internal defib/pacemaker quite logical, actually.

Ever played Crysis? Its signature Nanosuit has one.

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

a couple of weird things I noticed, When Shepard wakes up on the citadel, there's a strange sound.
Still doesn't clarify how Anderson got to the control panel first, let alone up the beam first. Hackett doesn't mention Anderson going into the Citadel, just Shepard.

Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

You know, I thought the same thing for a moment when I heard that noise.  But then I reminded myself I'm not playing RAGE, and Shepard doesn't have that!

[Unschuld]

Andromidius wrote...
Honestly, what's another lie to Bioware?  They've told so many its impossible to keep count anymore.

From a literalist standpoint, at least.

Most of the "lies" I've heard from them are ambiguous/vague statements that were interpreted by fans  to be lies.

Modifié par Unschuld, 27 juin 2012 - 08:51 .

[byne]

Unschuld wrote...

byne wrote...
Epyon unsuccessfully tried to convince us that Shepard conveniently has an internal defibrilator that shocks her back to life at that point.

I realize I've now pointed out silly arguments from Epyon twice in the past few hours, but Epyon was acting extra silly today.

Wait... why was this a silly argument? I find the possibility of it being an internal defib/pacemaker quite logical, actually.

Because at no other point has an internal defib been mentioned or alluded to.

It'd be like Shep being tossed into the ocean tied to a boulder, but the game suddenly informs us not to worry, because she has mechanical gills, we just never bothered mentioning them.

[plfranke]

Ytook wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Ytook wrote...

Has the EC come out on PC yet? (ie have people been able to dig into it yet)

Yes they found hints on a DLC.

Oh? (also does all the content really add up to 1.9? The whole thing seems a bit anaemic to me, I am yet to play it though)

It's looking like quite a bit of that data is connection to other dlc as you will see when you play it, it's like 5 minutes of cutscenes that are largely shared with every ending.

[Auralius Carolus]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

a couple of weird things I noticed, When Shepard wakes up on the citadel, there's a strange sound.
Still doesn't clarify how Anderson got to the control panel first, let alone up the beam first. Hackett doesn't mention Anderson going into the Citadel, just Shepard.

If you reject the Catalyst, his voice goes like Harbinger.

All they had to do was show Shepard being reunited with her squad and this would all be over.

Yeah, I mentioned these earlier.

Now as to the voice changing, assuming that the IT is still valid, consider this explanation:

Indoctrination seems to be based off of Demonic Possession- the EMF presence, subtle progression leading to a violent takeover, seeing things and hearing voices, etc. Well for anybody who is experienced with Exorcisms, not every case is going to be overt and violent. Often in the cases of more clever and powerful entities, the host remains lucid the majority of the time, especially when being observed. However, this facade will usually break after prolonged pressuring and taunting, as the hostile nature finally reveals itself.

These outbursts are normally short but profane and sometimes violent, occasionally with a deepening of vocal pitch, sometimes- seemingly- with both vocal cords being utilized in-sync causing a strong, deep, rhythmatic tone. Often after the outburst, the former mood will return almost as if the outburst could be easily forgotten.

Sound familiar?

[BansheeOwnage]

Well w/e happened, I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Unschuld]

 

v0rt3x22 wrote...
Yes but highly illogical to introduce it into the game out of nowhere.
It is highly unlikely for things like that to be just thrown into the game and having the players make that connection right off the bat - without even having confirmed that Shepard HAS a defib.

Shepard has implants all over the place, I wouldn't call it a stretch by any means. Since the only good way to introduce it would be to see it in action, that's what we get.

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Ever played Crysis? Its signature Nanosuit has one.

Nope, but they're already real and widely in use.