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[gunslinger_ruiz]

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Or the original endings before the sligth changes?  Speculations at full power!

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 19 mai 2012 - 09:06 .

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Words would do with TIM. As for the Reapers, well, guns are very effective for destroying their physical shells.
I liked the TIM/Anderson scene because it didn't involve dumb shooting in all directions and you got an impression of an intelligent confrontation.

Yup, Martin Sheen'll do that. Don't you just want to lean back and... listen?

Sheen's VO is perfect for such a character as TIM. You never know what to expect from him.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 09:15 .

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point: kill the Queen in ME1, save it in ME3: result would be the Reapers know of the Crucible and where it's been built but do nothing about it.

I think the Rachni hybrid in ME3 states that it is not a queen.

Doesn't matter, the Reapers control the Rachni going to support the Crucible, meaning the Reapers then know of the location.

The rachni turn against you in that case. In the codex it should be under Rachni Treason or something like that. It showed up on screen that the codex was updated but I didn't find it there (possibly a bug).

[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Speculations at full power!

That's holy **** worthy

[RavenEyry]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
-snip-

It could go back even further than that. Some have said the lyrics to ME1's end song are eerily appropriate.
"...and I need you to recover, 'cos I can't make it on my own"

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another point: kill the Queen in ME1, save it in ME3: result would be the Reapers know of the Crucible and where it's been built but do nothing about it.

I think the Rachni hybrid in ME3 states that it is not a queen.

Doesn't matter, the Reapers control the Rachni going to support the Crucible, meaning the Reapers then know of the location.

The rachni turn against you in that case. In the codex it should be under Rachni Treason or something like that. It showed up on screen that the codex was updated but I didn't find it there (possibly a bug).

They show up in the War Assets, alliance engineering corps gets -100 points with that update.

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Words would do with TIM. As for the Reapers, well, guns are very effective for destroying their physical shells.
I liked the TIM/Anderson scene because it didn't involve dumb shooting in all directions and you got an impression of an intelligent confrontation.

Yup, Martin Sheen'll do that. Don't you just want to lean back and... listen?

Sheen's VA is perfect for such a character as TIM. You never know what to expect from him.

Btw in every trailer he was in he said: "I'm not done yet."

[gunslinger_ruiz]

RavenEyry wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
-snip-

It could go back even further than that. Some have said the lyrics to ME1's end song are eerily appropriate.
"...and I need you to recover, 'cos I can't make it on my own"

True, but I prefer to think of that as a hint at ME2's opening events. However, using another song by The Faunts that sounds relativley similar to "M4 Part 2" can be either for "old times sake" or as you say another hint.

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right
so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle
clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all
of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link
it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the
original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album
art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a
30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play
was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing
that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in
the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw
the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring
is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the
actual
issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Speculations at full power!

That's holy **** worthy

The holiest of the holy.

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Btw in every trailer he was in he said: "I'm not done yet."

Oh my god, this is pure evil "Stay tuned...I'm not done yet. :devil::devil:"

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 mai 2012 - 09:24 .

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Btw in every trailer he was in he said: "I'm not done yet."

Haha! That's hilarious.

[RavenEyry]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Btw in every trailer he was in he said: "I'm not done yet."

Oh my god, this is pure evil "Stay tuned...I'm not done yet.

That comment along with those from Lance and Gamble's famous tweet were what made me 100% certain there's more to the ending than we've seen, indoc or not.

[DJBare]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Or the original endings before the sligth changes?  Speculations at full power!

Nice find!, and yes, it elicited a holy hell from me.

Just a thought here, but I've always found the leak of the beta with the writers script embedded to be suspicious, the red herring?

[MegumiAzusa]

For the 1M1: we know at least some of the BioWare guys seem to very much like Metal/Rock (clearly seen by ME/DAO trailers, Faunts doing the ending music etc). Now as far as I remember, the first time you saw that one thing with the 1M1 on it was in ME1 when you got out of the elevator, seemingly walking down a huge rift (that scene was soo epic btw)
Now I guess they also like old games, and the Doom tracks are all labeled for the levels they play in etc. now 1M1 could be a reference to E1M1 also known as "At Doom's Gate".
Now: (random screen from google)

this does look quite a bit like the atmosphere that could be in a Doom game.

[RavenEyry]

DJBare wrote...

Nice find!, and yes, it elicited a holy hell from me.

Just a thought here, but I've always found the leak of the beta with the writers script embedded to be suspicious, the red herring?

I was thinking the ending as it is is the red herring, but that definately works too.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

this does look quite a bit like the atmosphere that could be in a Doom game.

Nah. It's gotten awesomeness, not creepiness.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 09:55 .

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

this does look quite a bit like the atmosphere that could be in a Doom game.

Nah. It's gotten awesomeness, not creepiness.

The tone of the image imo fits quite well with the first two games.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

RavenEyry wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Nice find!, and yes, it elicited a holy hell from me.

Just a thought here, but I've always found the leak of the beta with the writers script embedded to be suspicious, the red herring?

I was thinking the ending as it is is the red herring, but that definately works too.

Could be, could not be. Could be that every clue they released for the trailer (including the London Calling Lyrics I just posted) are all to be seen as the red herring or insiginificant to the game itself.

[DJBare]

RavenEyry wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Nice find!, and yes, it elicited a holy hell from me.

Just a thought here, but I've always found the leak of the beta with the writers script embedded to be suspicious, the red herring?

I was thinking the ending as it is is the red herring, but that definately works too.

It fits when you consider Bioware were going for making the player feel what Shepard is feeling, to make it work they needed to deceive the player.
We are a relatively gullible bunch, we find apparent leaks and hints and treat them almost as fact, they say they had to rewrite the end because of the leak, that does not make sense to me, leaks have happened before but developers don't put time, money and effort into rewriting an entire ending, it's a spoiler, they don't rewrite because of spoilers, albeit in this case I think this particular spoiler IS the red herring.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

this does look quite a bit like the atmosphere that could be in a Doom game.

Nah. It's gotten awesomeness, not creepiness.

The tone of the image imo fits quite well with the first two games.

 I'm not convinced about that. Maybe it's because the games are 14 years off of each other.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 10:01 .

[MegumiAzusa]

I've looked a bit frame by frame at the stuff you get shown by Javik when you touch him.
There is one, or better two that were quite interesting.
One frame showed Javik looking up, best guess at a Reaper:

and the next one is this:

[TSA_383]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Right so, late last night Icinix made a post about all those creepy subtle clues we got leading up to the ME3 reveal trailer. I don't remember all of them so I'm glad he did, some of you have already been able to link it somewhat to Indoctrination Theory.

Anyway he linked it to the original post analyzing the evidence and "The Clash, The Singles" album art was one, wasn't really sure what it meant so I youtube'd it, found a 30 second trailer for the "SIngles" album and the first song to play was "London Calling" so THAT got my attention real quick. After seeing that I just figured "Okay, Bioware probably meant London is gonna be in the trailer and that's that." Then I looked up the exact lyrics and saw the this stanza:

"London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out, and draw another breath
London calling, and I don't wanna shout
But while we were talking, I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain't got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes"

Uhhhh, that warrant a Holy **** response from anyone else???

One of the last pieces of evidence listed was an image of a Red Herring which is odd if anything.

"A red herring is a clue which is intended to be misleading, or distracting from the actual issue."

Is this all a precursor to the trailer? Or the endings? Or the original endings before the sligth changes?  Speculations at full power!

That is cool as ****
I'm beginning to think of the whole year zero thing that NiN did a few years back, some of the clues in that were seriously obscure...

By the by I made a poster for synthesis fans

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

and the next one is this:

What is this? It's a crab.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 10:09 .

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

and the next one is this:

What is this? It's a crab.

What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the third

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 19 mai 2012 - 10:12 .

[RavenEyry]

DJBare wrote...

It fits when you consider Bioware were going for making the player feel what Shepard is feeling, to make it work they needed to deceive the player.
We are a relatively gullible bunch, we find apparent leaks and hints and treat them almost as fact, they say they had to rewrite the end because of the leak, that does not make sense to me, leaks have happened before but developers don't put time, money and effort into rewriting an entire ending, it's a spoiler, they don't rewrite because of spoilers, albeit in this case I think this particular spoiler IS the red herring.

What I find interesting about the leaked script is how little has changed despite them supposedly rewriting it. In fact, there seems to be less indoc hints in it, because I believe it has Shep and Anderson enter the beam together, instead of Shep going alone and Anderson just being there.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

and the next one is this:

What is this? It's a crab.

What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the third

So what might this mean?

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

and the next one is this:

What is this? It's a crab.

What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the third

So what might this mean?

Idk, maybe that the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Javik and he doesn't realize it?