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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Idk, maybe that the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Javik and he doesn't realize it?paxxton wrote...
So what might this mean?MegumiAzusa wrote...
What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the thirdpaxxton wrote...
What is this? It's a crab.MegumiAzusa wrote...
and the next one is this:
MaximizedAction wrote...
I find it incredibly intriguing that everyone could be intoctrinated. Trust no one!
RavenEyry wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
I find it incredibly intriguing that everyone could be intoctrinated. Trust no one!
"He could be anyone! He could be you! He could be me! He could even..." *BLAM* "Well it was obviously him"
Why wouldn't everyone be indoctrinated? It could be fun!RavenEyry wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
I find it incredibly intriguing that everyone could be intoctrinated. Trust no one!
"He could be anyone! He could be you! He could be me! He could even..." *BLAM* "Well it was obviously him"
Lots of indoctrination for everyone!
) then the great number of Reapers makes the field very strong and long-range.
Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 10:42 .
You should post it in some of the Pro-Ending threads (or did you actually do it?)TSA_383 wrote...
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Javik? Indoctrinated? I would never see that shiet comingMaximizedAction wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Idk, maybe that the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Javik and he doesn't realize it?paxxton wrote...
So what might this mean?MegumiAzusa wrote...
What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the thirdpaxxton wrote...
What is this? It's a crab.MegumiAzusa wrote...
and the next one is this:
I find it incredibly intriguing that everyone could be intoctrinated. Trust no one!
Uncle Jo wrote...
You should post it in some of the Pro-Ending threads (or did you actually do it?)TSA_383 wrote...
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I'd be glad to read your theory about the Citadel but unfortunately the link you gave doesn't work...
Modifié par estebanus, 19 mai 2012 - 11:09 .
Nah. He believes the same philosophy the Reapers do but is against them. When he talks with Shepard about Legion he states that there is no room in the Galaxy for both the perfection of Synthetics and the chaos of Organics. He's clearly for the chaos.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Idk, maybe that the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Javik and he doesn't realize it?paxxton wrote...
So what might this mean?MegumiAzusa wrote...
What I was indirectly hinting at the effects, these warps are only in 3 other frames in that movie including one with Collectors, forgot which was the third
Modifié par paxxton, 19 mai 2012 - 11:27 .
Sero303 wrote...
Unrelated, but someone told me, not sure how true it is, but it sounds funny. But supposedly When Casey Hudson walked into a coffee shop or something like that, somebody stood up and yelled "indoctrinated presence detected" and ran out...am I the only one who would have loved to see that?
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tooo gangster lol i bet Casey was like "WTF?"estebanus wrote...
Sero303 wrote...
Unrelated, but someone told me, not sure how true it is, but it sounds funny. But supposedly When Casey Hudson walked into a coffee shop or something like that, somebody stood up and yelled "indoctrinated presence detected" and ran out...am I the only one who would have loved to see that?
Ok, THAT is absolutely golden!
He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.HellishFiend wrote...
Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.
Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.
ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...
tooo gangster lol i bet Casey was like "WTF?"estebanus wrote...
Sero303 wrote...
Unrelated, but someone told me, not sure how true it is, but it sounds funny. But supposedly When Casey Hudson walked into a coffee shop or something like that, somebody stood up and yelled "indoctrinated presence detected" and ran out...am I the only one who would have loved to see that?
Ok, THAT is absolutely golden!
trolololololololololololol
paxxton wrote...
He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.HellishFiend wrote...
Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.
Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.
From what he stated to Shepard he was more than that. He was the Avatar of his cycle. All of his squad became indoctrinated and he isn't? Riiiiiight that sounds convincing.paxxton wrote...
He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.HellishFiend wrote...
Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.
Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
From what he stated to Shepard he was more than that. He was the Avatar of his cycle. All of his squad became indoctrinated and he isn't? Riiiiiight that sounds convincing.
More likely the Reapers played the long game, learning their tactics if new would arise, maybe a gentle nudge here and there to his orders without him noticing.
Remember Victory also called Javik "Commander" - he really is the embodiment of Shep in his cycle.
Modifié par HellishFiend, 19 mai 2012 - 11:48 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
From what he stated to Shepard he was more than that. He was the Avatar of his cycle. All of his squad became indoctrinated and he isn't? Riiiiiight that sounds convincing.paxxton wrote...
He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.HellishFiend wrote...
Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.
Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.
More likely the Reapers played the long game, learning their tactics if new would arise, maybe a gentle nudge here and there to his orders without him noticing.
Remember Victory also called Javik "Commander" - he really is the embodiment of Shep in his cycle.
BleedingUranium wrote...
Maybe Shep will have to do the same as Javik and get in one of those so-far-unused cryo pods on the Normandy, and try to save the next cycle.
Not the ending I'm hoping for, but I certainly think it's possible.
Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.BleedingUranium wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
From what he stated to Shepard he was more than that. He was the Avatar of his cycle. All of his squad became indoctrinated and he isn't? Riiiiiight that sounds convincing.paxxton wrote...
He was a soldier and definately had contact with Reaper tech.HellishFiend wrote...
Well, if the reapers attempted to indoctrinate Javik and failed, that would lend a lot of credibility to Javik's rather extreme opinions and viewpoints. I dont think thats the case, in fact, I propose the opposite.
Javik specifically states he had nothing to do with the Crucible whatsoever. Perhaps his distance from anything related to the Crucible kept him safe from the forces that were indoctrinating people.
More likely the Reapers played the long game, learning their tactics if new would arise, maybe a gentle nudge here and there to his orders without him noticing.
Remember Victory also called Javik "Commander" - he really is the embodiment of Shep in his cycle.
Maybe Shep will have to do the same as Javik and get in one of those so-far-unused cryo pods on the Normandy, and try to save the next cycle.
Not the ending I'm hoping for, but I certainly think it's possible.
Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 12:00 .
paxxton wrote...
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Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.
On the other hand, if Shepard is indoctrinated...
If Shep would do what Javik says he would end up with a pretty small army at the end. His imperialism is actually very well suited for the Reapers. Think of it, TIM and Saren both were strongly committed to their respective species and were transformed into quite useful tools.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
From what he stated to Shepard he was more than that. He was the Avatar of his cycle. All of his squad became indoctrinated and he isn't? Riiiiiight that sounds convincing.
More likely the Reapers played the long game, learning their tactics if new would arise, maybe a gentle nudge here and there to his orders without him noticing.
Remember Victory also called Javik "Commander" - he really is the embodiment of Shep in his cycle.
I suppose that's feasible, but if that's the case then why is Javik such an anti-synthetic extremist? I cant think of anything he did that would nudge Shepard any closer to fulfilling the Reaper's goals.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 20 mai 2012 - 12:12 .
Thanks. Good to see you too! I'm having fun (and some hard times) with the Memorial Wall ! I'm playing also Overlord and Arrival since they're important to understand the IT...estebanus wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
You should post it in some of the Pro-Ending threads (or did you actually do it?)TSA_383 wrote...
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I'd be glad to read your theory about the Citadel but unfortunately the link you gave doesn't work...
What theory about the citadel? That it's actually a giant pine cone?
Also, it's good to see you around here again!
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 20 mai 2012 - 12:26 .
Javik had only known war with the reapers, he was born into it, from his perspective killing the crew was the only option he could see, Shepard has twice had the chance to turn the indoctrinated, Saren and TIM, both sworn emenies, the crew are not sworn enemies, this may give Shepard the chance to turn them if the need arises.paxxton wrote...
Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.
On the other hand, if Shepard is indoctrinated...
Agree. It'd be gruesome. Anyway, this would definately fill the definition of "a memorable ending that everyone is talking about after the fact." Literally everyone.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
paxxton wrote...
*snip*
Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.
On the other hand, if Shepard is indoctrinated...
Man, if they did that they'd have an even bigger fan backlash they do now I bet. Chaos.
Modifié par paxxton, 20 mai 2012 - 12:31 .
TIM was never a sworn enemy.DJBare wrote...
Javik had only known war with the reapers, he was born into it, from his perspective killing the crew was the only option he could see, Shepard has twice had the chance to turn the indoctrinated, Saren and TIM, both sworn emenies, the crew are not sworn enemies, this may give Shepard the chance to turn them if the need arises.paxxton wrote...
Javik killed his crewmates. BioWare wouldn't incorporate slaughtering the Normandy's crew in EC.
On the other hand, if Shepard is indoctrinated...
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 20 mai 2012 - 12:26 .
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